Victim: Megan Waterman, 22, missing June 2010, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *Rex Heuermann charged*

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

Simular curcumstance can also be said for AC also. Difference is she worked out of her home. She walked out after being offered 1500 hundred dollars. This happened afew weeks after a caller asked her to meet at the same hotel MW walked away from. Makes you wonder if it was the same caller.

was this the FIRST and ONLY time that AC
had an outcall?

with MW...its FACT.

do you know if this is FACT that this was the FIRST and ONLY time
AC...had an out call?

THAT would be.....well...YES, as you say.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

was this the FIRST and ONLY time that AC
had an outcall?

with MW...its FACT.

do you know if this is FACT that this was the FIRST and ONLY time
AC...had an out call?

THAT would be.....well...YES, as you say.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/17/terror-on-long-island.html

An “incall” was often preferable to an “outcall,” and both were typically secured by means of paid ads Costello placed on backpage.com. She described herself as a Southern belle, and her picture showed a petite young woman with green eyes and brown hair. She would buy a new ad every few days, in order to keep herself at the top of the adult-services offerings. If it was an outcall to a hotel or a house, Schaller would often drive her and wait outside in his car. More often, clients would come to their house, and he would wait in the next room in case she needed him.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/17/terror-on-long-island.html

An “incall” was often preferable to an “outcall,” and both were typically secured by means of paid ads Costello placed on backpage.com. She described herself as a Southern belle, and her picture showed a petite young woman with green eyes and brown hair. She would buy a new ad every few days, in order to keep herself at the top of the adult-services offerings. If it was an outcall to a hotel or a house, Schaller would often drive her and wait outside in his car. More often, clients would come to their house, and he would wait in the next room in case she needed him.

from this article from the daily beast that ac did out calls.....NOT TOO OFTEN, but that she did them..
let's say occassionally.....

yes?

 

[deedee21]

I think it begs the question why did he make them leave the phones? He got away with using one victims phone to terrify her family. Does anyone know when the news organization released the information on the calls to MB's sister? I'm wondering if it was before MW went missing or after.
Nevermind I found it. It was August of 2009 so he probably got nervous.

There was a report on the news in Albany about the disapperance if MB. Not sure if the killer had access to Albany news. The killer called and said he was NYPD and asked her mother if she filed a missing persons report? MBB phone wes traced to LI in 2007 after she disappeared. If the killer had personal knowledge that LE was asking around about her then that might explain why there was no missing woman in 2008. It would appear the last two victims changed their routines.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

from this article from the daily beast that ac did out calls.....NOT TOO OFTEN, but that she did them..
let's say occassionally.....

yes?

Yes.

There was also an early msm article that made mention of Amber once accepting a car date and being badly beaten and left on the side of the road. According to DS, from that point on, car dates were something she was terrified of doing. Whether or not she would do a car date in desperation, I couldn't say. But it seems unlikely to me. And I certainly don't think LISK booked her for a car date...$1000 for a car date would have been a big red flag to Amber, imo. Incalls and occasional outcalls seemed to be the pattern at the time of her disappearance. So it's logical to assume LISK booked Amber for an outcall. Or, to be more exact, this is what he TOLD her he was booking her for. Whether or not he ever intended for her to leave his car is another matter entirely.

JMO

 

[deedee21]

Yes.

There was also an early msm article that made mention of Amber once accepting a car date and being badly beaten and left on the side of the road. According to DS, from that point on, car dates were something she was terrified of doing. Whether or not she would do a car date in desperation, I couldn't say. But it seems unlikely to me. Incalls and occasional outcalls seemed to be the pattern at the time of her disappearance.

The caller probably said an overnite at his place. She was on heroin. She let her guard down.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

The caller probably said an overnite at his place. She was on heroin. She let her guard down.

All these girls let their guard down. The question is...why? Maureen and Megan weren't in the business for very long. Were they "street smart"? I don't know. But Melissa and Amber were definitely street smart. And they were both offered large amounts of money for...something. We know that Melissa hung out with some older man on Long Island (with another escort, if memory serves), and Amber lived on Long Island. So did Amber know this older man too? :dunno:

(But I'm wandering off topic here. Reigning myself in now.)

 

[Just K]

She could have met a client once who was "cool" so she kept his # and set up her own date later, "on the side" , It would've been money she didn't have to share with AC. Money she could put towards her and her daughters future. I didn't know MW but she seemed all about her daughter.

If I have her pegged wrong, she could've made a quick drug date...something she wouldn't have to share w/ AC. I can believe that she set up a date w/out him knowing.

And, there was a phone in the motel room. If a client came by earlier or in the few days before, all he had to do was call the motel desk and call directly to the room number he remembered.

Years ago, while staying in a motel, the room phone rang and I answered it. It was someone in another room. Wanted to know if he could join us. Needless to say, my friend and my family member told me to hang up the phone. I was oblivious... Looking back on it, I guess he thought we were "partying"- having "that kind" of party. Point is, we didn't know the guy, had our curtain open, he just called through the front desk by requesting our room number.

 

[Just K]

Per her sister, (KO) ALC saw how much money KO was making ("working for a service while" she (KO) "was in college" -going out with her boombox to do all types of out calls. KO inferred that this is how ALC got into the business. One might assume that this started in NY but there is proof that ALC lived in a house (Elaine Drive) in Florida that was the address for PPRS (an escort service associated with CG and that service also had/has a location in Manhattan.)

KO is also said to have gone to the Tampa area from time to time. Specifically, when ALC lived there.

In researching the Atlantic City case, one of the witnesses stated that the "girls" would often do the circuit. When it got cold, he said, they would go to Las Vegas and Tampa.

Further research, re: other associates of Akeem Cruz and one self-described "close friend" of Megan's also have ties to Central Florida. It seems to be part of their circuit, too.

MB's ex also went to Central Florida.

That particular part of Florida has a rather high incidence of unsolved disappearances and murders of college-aged and "working" women.

Just some things to consider...

 

[deedee21]

was this the FIRST and ONLY time that AC
had an outcall?

with MW...its FACT.

do you know if this is FACT that this was the FIRST and ONLY time
AC...had an out call?

THAT would be.....well...YES, as you say.

I dont know what AC habits were. Seems like money was the bait though. Meagan had a room. Why would she leave? Where was Akeem when she left?

 

[Just K]

It is not a fact that MW never did a side job. Only she would have known that bit of information. She had been prostituting for over a year when she was murdered. She is said to have met AC through friends. Many of her acquaintances have ties to men out of Brooklyn, NY. Per a court ordered custody agreement, the father of her daughter (2006) is "unknown."
<modsnip>.
We don't even know if she was doing similar activities before she met AC. It's unrealistic to believe that one goes directly from working a low paying job, without some incremental steps in between, to having a pimp, meeting clients in a motel, selling drugs, etc.

The FACT is we don't know if MW was a street walker before she was hooked up with AC. Nobody, here, knows that to be a fact.

Research per news articles/announcements and court records show that MANY of MW's friends and family members have arrests for drugs and a few for other crimes like assault, concealed weapons, etc. There is a recent case out of South Portland, where a street walker with priors (prostitution, weapons, assault and drugs) was beaten nearly to death off Cumberland Ave. That women is the cousin of an associate of MW. There is another case of a women, now in Florida, who self-described herself as a "good friend" of MW. She is a FB friend on both of AC's FB pages. She was arrested a few times too.

We are not privy to which one of MW's friends or family members set her up with AC but a few of those in her close circle have some very close ties to Brooklyn guys.

It would not be a surprise to find that someone felt she would be safer with a guy like AC then out there on the streets of South Portland. This girl, Sherri York, was out on the streets and this is what happened to her.
http://www.pressherald.com/news/Scarborough-man-faces-new-charge-in-assault-on-woman.html

http://www.wgme.com/news/top-stories/stories/wgme_vid_13292.shtml The comments are very informative.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

I dont know what AC habits were. Seems like money was the bait though. Meagan had a room. Why would she leave? Where was Akeem when she left?

MW had a room PAID for by AC.
if you should ever come across the paperwork by the government on the case, you will see that akeem has been asked these very questions and that he has NOT co operated with law enforcement (including the fbi and dept. of justice on this case) IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.

AC was NOT in the room when MW went out.

I know where Akeem SAID he was....
but, as there is a case against him I don't know if I'm allowed to say where he SAID he was. But....if you get the paperwork from the government - you'll see what he has said.

that's the best I can give you. I'm sorry if its evasive, but...it's the best I can do, under the circumstances right now.

This is all I can say NOW or EVER, as its really painful to discuss MW.

 

[deedee21]

Sounds like MW and MB stories are simular. They were both approached by men who were nothing more than pimps tor profit. The sentences handed down for these crimes reflect a prevailing attitude towards woman by lawmakers, DAs and judges. A young girl in the Bronx was kidnapped and did get away. She was forced into prostitution. Most people dont even know this is going on. This needs to change.

 

[Theforeigner]

I dont know what AC habits were. Seems like money was the bait though. Meagan had a room. Why would she leave? Where was Akeem when she left?

Here is what a April 10, 2011 newsreport says about where Akeem Cruz was while Megan Waterman was meeting John's.

Wheter this was the case the night Megan disappeared, I don't know.
But I sure find it interesting that it imply that Akeem Cruz had realtives near the Holiday Inn Express in Hauppauge on Long Island!!!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/sicko_call_from_slay_gal_cell_5COah6gj6Xkk2gT4KgekcI/1


Quote:
When Megan Waterman went on the road to meet her clients, she'd drop off her 4-year-old daughter, Lily, with her grandparents, borrow a friend's Ford Explorer or catch the bus from Scarborough, Maine, to Long Island.
She would go at the request of her boyfriend, Akeem Cruz, who called himself "Vibe" and doubled as her pimp. He used a laptop to place ads for her services and accompanied her to the Holiday Inn Express in Hauppauge. While Waterman, 22, met johns, Cruz visited his family nearby. "I told her I thought it was so crazy and dangerous," said her friend Nicole "Nicci" Haycock, who dates Waterman's brother Greg. "But Megan was very free."

The couple took a bus to Long Island last spring and checked in at the hotel on June 5. That night, they left together at 8 p.m., and she returned 30 minutes later by herself. At 1:30 a.m., she got a call on her cell from Cruz's cell, then left her room alone.

A witness last spotted Waterman outside, walking toward a convenience store, Haycock said. It was the last time Waterman was seen alive.

 

[fred&edna]

Maybe the wrong place to post this but while I was attempting to google additional info re: Cruz visiting family, I found the article below quite interesting. Has this been discussed previously? Was there speculation as to who cops might have been focusing on during this time?


"There are conflicting reports about a possible suspect. Suffolk officials said they don&#8217;t have one, but a police source familiar with the investigation said cops are focusing on a man who lives in the county. They&#8217;ve been watching him for days, the source said."

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ork.com/usa/?p=8710+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

** Maybe since it was just "a police source familiar with the investigation" and not an official statement it was dismissed as rumor?

 

[Just K]

Maybe the wrong place to post this but while I was attempting to google additional info re: Cruz visiting family, I found the article below quite interesting. Has this been discussed previously? Was there speculation as to who cops might have been focusing on during this time?


"There are conflicting reports about a possible suspect. Suffolk officials said they don’t have one, but a police source familiar with the investigation said cops are focusing on a man who lives in the county. They’ve been watching him for days, the source said."

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ork.com/usa/?p=8710+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

** Maybe since it was just "a police source familiar with the investigation" and not an official statement it was dismissed as rumor?

Here is the problem with the statement "visited his family nearby;" he could have been hanging out in another "nearby" motel room with "family."

 

[fred&edna]

Here is the problem with the statement "visited his family nearby;" he could have been hanging out in another "nearby" motel room with "family."

I concur. But, I was posting about the possible suspect mentioned in my link

 

[Tugela]

that was her first out call EVER. she never ever had one before.
it was not routine...her routine was to be IN the room...
for her ENTIRE ....professional career.

Escorts with incalls do outcalls as well. You don't know how she did things. Outcalls to hotels are regarded as trusted locations, outcalls to private residences would involve some sort of security, such as a driver.

Touring girls usually operate out of their hotel rooms as incalls, but they will do outcalls to other hotels (not private residences though).

So, she went somewhere like that.

I would be really surprised if her pimp didnt know more than what he is saying.

 

[To Kill a Mockingbird]

http://bayridgejournal.blogspot.com/2011/01/body-dump-at-gilgo-beach.html


Megan Waterman disappeared after leaving a Holiday Inn Express in Hauppage, alone, on June 16, 2010. Her boyfriend/pimp, a 21-year-old Brooklyn man named Akeem Cruz, now serving 20 months in Maine for drug trafficking, picked her up in her hometown of Scarborough, Maine and drove her to New York City, then to the Holiday Inn Express in Hauppage, where she disappeared.

Why Megan, who never went on outcalls, and never worked without Cruz nearby, went out alone that night without her cell phone and without telling anyone where she was going, is a mystery.

 

[Tugela]

And, there was a phone in the motel room. If a client came by earlier or in the few days before, all he had to do was call the motel desk and call directly to the room number he remembered.

Years ago, while staying in a motel, the room phone rang and I answered it. It was someone in another room. Wanted to know if he could join us. Needless to say, my friend and my family member told me to hang up the phone. I was oblivious... Looking back on it, I guess he thought we were "partying"- having "that kind" of party. Point is, we didn't know the guy, had our curtain open, he just called through the front desk by requesting our room number.

Escorts avoid hotel staff like the plague. I don't think they would put you through to a specific room number, you would have to provide the name of the guest and they would then connect you without providing any information. They do that for the security of their guests. Since escorts don't use their real names when doing business with clients, it is unlikely that anyone contacted her that way. They would have called directly to the cell phone number provided in her adds. Which probably don't go to her, but to the pimp or phone girl (if she had one). The details then get relayed on to escort.

Part of that is legal....it is harder to prove a case for prosititution when there is a chain of information being passed through a series of anonymous and unrecorded calls.

The only escorts that deal with that side of the business typically are the amateurs and the true independents.