Found Deceased WA - Cheryl DeBoer, 54, Mountlake Terrace, 8 February 2016 #4

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stryker57 said:
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I understand now. Thank you!
 
KJ's Mamu said:
I returned today after a 10 day (disconnected) vacation with hopes that LE had released the cause and manner of death. After scrolling (quickly) through 10 days of this thread I'm disappointed to see that we don't appear to know that cause and manner of death? Or did I overlook an important message?
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No new information has been released by officials, but we have been joined by an insider who has been very helpful with our understanding of the information that has been released.
 
otto said:
No new information has been released by officials, but we have been joined by an insider who has been very helpful with our understanding of the information that has been released.
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Thanks Otto!
 
Most unusual to me is (LE) knowing the cause, but not the manner, if I understand correctly.
 
eucalyptuz said:
Re: the property south of the culvert...
Back in thread 2(?) after the body was discovered, I posted about this house. I think it is a stand-alone house as apposed to a condo because I found a recent property listing. Google/Bing ground level 'street views' showed the place looking a bit neglected so I asked locals if they knew it to be vacant? If the killer was from the area and knew of the culvert and that there were no close potential witnesses to the scene, well, to me, that indicates a degree of forethought.

As a side thought to this as I don't think it has been suggested: what if Cheryl did suicide but out of protection of her loved ones (and how she was remembered), she did not want it known. That would involve setting up circumstances and locations that point away from suicide, and no witnesses. If suicide is still on the table, this is one of the few versions of it that work in my head.
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Remember she was brilliant...as portrayed by her family members and she worked in the medical field. Also, water changes the way a body decomposes.
 
darring21 said:
I agree but also think it indicates it wasn't planned. The place seems like the choice of someone a little panicky and not the choice of a planned murder.
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I agree and it was a place they could hide her and be on their way because they had to be at work.
Whomever it was...
 
Eileen730 said:
I agree and it was a place they could hide her and be on their way because they had to be at work.
Whomever it was...
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True, even their work includes, scoping out their next victim...

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Hi, why do you think this was personal? I can't see what evidence leads to that conclusion?
 
redbaron said:
Hi, why do you think this was personal? I can't see what evidence leads to that conclusion?
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I think this was a crazy random event that happened early on a Monday morning to a woman who was just doing her normal day to day activities. I also see no evidence supporting the 'personal' theory.

I am inclined to think that Cheryl's car was used in her abduction and murder simply because there was blood on the passenger seat of her car. I don't see her being attacked in her car, and then moved to another vehicle. At the same time, it seems very unlikely that someone could put her body in the culvert during the day without someone seeing something.
 
otto said:
I think this was a crazy random event that happened early on a Monday morning to a woman who was just doing her normal day to day activities. I also see no evidence supporting the 'personal' theory.

I am inclined to think that Cheryl's car was used in her abduction and murder simply because there was blood on the passenger seat of her car. I don't see her being attacked in her car, and then moved to another vehicle. At the same time, it seems very unlikely that someone could put her body in the culvert during the day without someone seeing something.
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We don't know whether or not anyone saw anything but she had to be moved very quickly if she was moved in her own car while it was still dark because sunrise was at 7:26 am. Of course there may have been cloud cover.
 
otto said:
I think this was a crazy random event that happened early on a Monday morning to a woman who was just doing her normal day to day activities. I also see no evidence supporting the 'personal' theory.

I am inclined to think that Cheryl's car was used in her abduction and murder simply because there was blood on the passenger seat of her car. I don't see her being attacked in her car, and then moved to another vehicle. At the same time, it seems very unlikely that someone could put her body in the culvert during the day without someone seeing something.
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JMO folks but a mugger will just leave ya where he hit ya and take off.
And if it was a random crime what crime besides murder was happening here?
It is my opinion its someone she knew!
 
Eileen730 said:
JMO folks but a mugger will just leave ya where he hit ya and take off.
And if it was a random crime what crime besides murder was happening here?
It is my opinion its someone she knew!
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Unless it was a suicide.
 
I don't believe suicide at all!!!!

My thoughts continue to be with Cheryl's family. May whoever is responsible to apprehended soon!!!
 
2Hope4 said:
I don't believe suicide at all!!!!

My thoughts continue to be with Cheryl's family. May whoever is responsible to apprehended soon!!!
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I think its last on that list but cant be ruled out as of yet!
How many threads here do we have of women that just walk away and are later found deceased by their own choosing.
Horrific yes but it happens often.
sometimes life becomes overwhelming.

I keep thinking of the woman that went on vacation with her husband to Scotland went for a walk and never came back.
 
I have thought about the american lady that passed in Scotland, in Susan's case the evidence was right there.

Her car looked pretty clean, I really doubt that if she noticed that she had gotten blood on it that she would have left it, I think she would have cleaned it up,
 
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