Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #6 *Arrest*

[dadgum]

Good Morning! putting the coffee on..again..

 

[popsicle]

I am wondering if we can close the thread until I get my yard work done? :thinking:

 

[JeannaT]

my speakers are not working so I could not listen to the "spoiled brat" interview and as much as I am irked by parents who refer to their kids as such I think he meant it as a misplaced affectionate term. He has to be aware that public sentiment was very,very negative towards him so to express forgiveness becomes a gracious gesture that somewhat affords him some grace. Many years ago when my kids were little they were allowed to roam pretty freely - we lived very rurally on an island - they were responsible and tended to be homebodies in the evening and yes - times were different but I still think there by the grace of god.......

I think he was actually sort of bragging, honestly.

 

[FruitTingles]

I am wondering if we can close the thread until I get my yard work done? :thinking:

Or close it while I go to bed for a few hours LOL (kidding of course)

 

[sunsetbeach]

As far as forgiveness goes I feel like he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't in the public's eye. If he forgives the kid people ask why. Could it be that he too was once accused of something and maybe he truly didn't do what he was accused of so he knows how it feels? I mean after all that charge was dropped. On the other hand if he doesn't forgive some may call him a hypocrite and sympathizer.

We all know better parenting skills may have made a difference here but the lack thereof doesn't mean they didn't love their little girl.

 

[JeannaT]

I'm not going to tell people how they should or should not grieve, but I'll be honest and say I'm shocked to hear that he was off speaking at church so soon. Was his wife and kids there? I don't know... it just seems odd. They didn't attend the vigil for their daughter, so I'm just surprised that they would be anywhere speaking in public. I am pretty sure I would still be sedated in a hospital.

I don't think his wife is mormon, or attends that church. Early on there was an article that he and the kids attend. I'm not sure he would consider speaking in his church "public", though.

 

[Dixie811]

I am really tiring of the damned if you do, damned if you don't discussion of dad.

I can't believe he is now being criticized for going to his church and speaking to church members 'too soon'. It is stated the parents keep to themselves. His church members may be some of the only support he has. Many people find comfort and solace within their church during the most difficult times of their lives. Since when is it 'too soon' to go to church and rely on your spirituality during a horrific time??

The statement of forgiveness: I am under the impression that dad's words were being essentially paraphrased by the bishop? Not even a direct quote. I am also under the impression it was stated that he thinks he can forgive the perp. Not that he already has, totally over it, water under the bridge, no big deal. Additionally working toward forgiveness is probably what is encouraged by his bishop and religion. Such an approach would probably also be honored and encouraged in his church community. Those are the kind of words thrown around in church-- forgiveness, acceptance that someone is in heaven, etc. I doubt he would speak to his church community members about how much he wants to beat the living daylights out of the perp.

I am sure this individual was by NO MEANS a perfect parent.. far from it, as it sounds. Nobody really needs to be convinced of that by continued discussion of the lack of proper parenting that went on; I think we are all aware. But a perp has been arrested who has intentionally committed horrific crimes against this girl! I would much rather focus on the arrest and Justice for Jenise!

 

[Prof]

King 5 gave away some details yesterday on the suspect in this case.

Facebook comments on the case, posted earlier in the week, appear to be by the suspect.

KING 5 has learned that the suspected killer knows the family of the victim and he lives just down the block.

The body of Jenise Wright was found just a few hundred feet from the suspect's home.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Detectives-scour-home-of-teen-murder-suspect-270678511.html

Yesterday, I thought they might have meant that he commented on the King 5 FB news stories on the case. I looked at all the comments under King 5's posts on the case between the 4th and 7th and didn't find any by the suspect. I suppose they meant some other FB page.

 

[iluvmua]

I am really tiring of the damned if you do, damned if you don't discussion of dad.

I can't believe he is now being criticized for going to his church and speaking to church members 'too soon'. It is stated the parents keep to themselves. His church members may be some of the only support he has. Many people find comfort and solace within their church during the most difficult times of their lives. Since when is it 'too soon' to go to church and rely on your spirituality during a horrific time??

The statement of forgiveness: I am under the impression that dad's words were being essentially paraphrased by the bishop? Not even a direct quote. I am also under the impression it was stated that he thinks he can forgive the perp. Not that he already has, totally over it, water under the bridge, no big deal. Additionally working toward forgiveness is probably what is encouraged by his bishop and religion. Such an approach would probably also be honored and encouraged in his church community. Those are the kind of words thrown around in church-- forgiveness, acceptance that someone is in heaven, etc. I doubt he would speak to his church community members about how much he wants to beat the living daylights out of the perp.

I am sure this individual was by NO MEANS a perfect parent.. far from it, as it sounds. Nobody really needs to be convinced of that by continued discussion of the lack of proper parenting that went on; I think we are all aware. But a perp has been arrested who has intentionally committed horrific crimes against this girl! I would much rather focus on the arrest and Justice for Jenise!

me too! so many people are way too focused on the parents and what they should have done, how they should have acted etc. and not on the 17 year old who did this nasty nasty act.

The 17 year old is the only one to blame at this point.

jmo

 

[popsicle]

Honestly, I don't feel either way about it. I wouldn't need to forgive him but that is just me. My goal would be to let go of the hate and other negative feelings because that is the poison. I would be working to make something positive come out of this. jmo

 

[TTF14]

I am really tiring of the damned if you do, damned if you don't discussion of dad.

I can't believe he is now being criticized for going to his church and speaking to church members 'too soon'. It is stated the parents keep to themselves. His church members may be some of the only support he has. Many people find comfort and solace within their church during the most difficult times of their lives. Since when is it 'too soon' to go to church and rely on your spirituality during a horrific time??

The statement of forgiveness: I am under the impression that dad's words were being essentially paraphrased by the bishop? Not even a direct quote. I am also under the impression it was stated that he thinks he can forgive the perp. Not that he already has, totally over it, water under the bridge, no big deal. Additionally working toward forgiveness is probably what is encouraged by his bishop and religion. Such an approach would probably also be honored and encouraged in his church community. Those are the kind of words thrown around in church-- forgiveness, acceptance that someone is in heaven, etc. I doubt he would speak to his church community members about how much he wants to beat the living daylights out of the perp.

I am sure this individual was by NO MEANS a perfect parent.. far from it, as it sounds. Nobody really needs to be convinced of that by continued discussion of the lack of proper parenting that went on; I think we are all aware. But a perp has been arrested who has intentionally committed horrific crimes against this girl! I would much rather focus on the arrest and Justice for Jenise!

BBM. Exactly!!! Well, said, Dixie.

 

[necco]

I wish they wouldn't report what people say in church/temple/synagogue/etc unless it is an admission of culpability (outside of a protected situation such as a confessional or a private meeting with a clergy member) or a public memorial. Reporters shouldn't be poring over every utterance of a grieving parent in a house of worship.

 

[iluvmua]

Is the perp charged with 1st degree murder or 2nd degree?

And do LE believe this was premeditated?

 

[iluvmua]

Is the perp charged with 1st degree murder or 2nd degree?

And do LE believe this was premeditated?

 

[Inthedetails]

I keep thinking that at least one other teen was involved, but haven't seen anything to collaborate that other than my hunch. Looks like he acted alone?

I'm also getting a huge sense of relief that he was STOPPED while still young. If he had indeed gotten away with this, it's possible he would strike again with violence against other victim. JMO.

What drove him to this?!?

 

[Inthedetails]

I wish they wouldn't report what people say in church/temple/synagogue/etc unless it is an admission of culpability (outside of a protected situation such as a confessional or a private meeting with a clergy member) or a public memorial. Reporters shouldn't be poring over every utterance of a grieving parent in a house of worship.

Amen!

 

[Ontario Mom]

I just want to take a moment to thank the mods here for keeping the rules the way they do. I followed a link trail this morning (his name is now all over the place) and stumbled across another forum where posting pretty horrific "local rumors" and personal info about pretty much the entire family is okay.

So thank you WS mods for NOT letting this forum go there. It is much appreciated.

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

I would imagine great guilt, inspires great grace...forgiveness does not mean "everything is ok" it means, I won't let this put me in the grave and I will keep putting one foot in front of the other until I make it through the darkness.

There's the other side to an aggrieved party forgiving the aggressor, though: The feeling that if "I" forgive "him/her," I am "condoning" their actions. This is a mighty hard, tall boulder to climb on the path to returning to personal wholeness after trauma, and from personal experience and IMO not a roadblock gotten past quickly by any means.

I keep thinking of one or two other cases I have followed where parents have...shall we say...exhibited behaviors before the fact that conceivably put their children in harm's way. They seem to respond after the fact with the words they think people want to hear them say, not what they are really feeling (part of that deflection thing, yes). Cherish Periwinkle's case comes to mind (and has all through this current ordeal).

 

[iluvmua]

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Teen-suspect-in-6-year-olds-death-due-in-court-270689391.html

 

[Dixie811]

Is the perp charged with 1st degree murder or 2nd degree?

And do LE believe this was premeditated?

2nd degree murder and manslaughter, plus rape.

IDK about the details behind why someone would be charged with both second degree murder AND manslaughter.

ETA: This is my first time closely following a breaking case in the PST time zone. It makes for a lot of anxious days waiting until it is evening here for things to happen in the afternoon there!