Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #6 *Arrest*

[Hejlena]

I imagine he did not think too far ahead, when asked. Maybe he thought they were collecting just in case they ever found DNA. Not all teens watch crime shows, Imo.

Perhaps he thought he didn't leave any? Perhaps he thought he "covered his bases" well enough.

 

[libby5264]

Perhaps he thought he didn't leave any? Perhaps he thought he "covered his bases" well enough.

I don't think there was a lot of thinking on his part....pure panic.

 

[iluvmua]

I know I would not be able to forgive so quickly but I understand why he did.

 

[Ghostwheel]

If it's true about Jenise's father spouting forgiveness in church, that freaks me out a bit. Isn't it a bit soon for that? We don't even really know what happened and why.

Some people are capable of forgiving anyone, anything. For some, once they forgive, then it no longer eats them up inside. (using the forgive definition : to cease to feel resentment against). The word "Forgive" means different things to different people. To me, there are somethings that are unforgivable, but that doesn't mean I dwell on it or let it eat me up. I just don't choose to forgive, on my own terms, for my own reasons. But this is a man for whom it was normal to wake up, not find his child in her bed or home, go on with his day without checking to see where she was at any time during the day, have no worry until no one in the family had seen her from the time they put her to bed the previous night until 8:30 the of evening when she was not found in her bed in the morning. His reality is completely different from mine.

Whatever gets him through....

 

[necco]

Perhaps he thought he didn't leave any? Perhaps he thought he "covered his bases" well enough.

What was he going to do with a parent standing right there? Refuse after the parent consented?

 

[Hejlena]

Yes, forgiveness heals. It is a simple concept, but not easy.

There is an old saying that harboring resentment is like drinking poison and waiting for your enemy to die.

 

[theyamqueen]

For some people, forgiveness is freedom. I don't think I could, in his shoes, but I admire the idea of forgiveness. I think it takes a special soul to find forgiveness in such darkness. I don't particularly think of the father as some great enlightened soul, though, all things told.

 

[necco]

I know I would not be able to forgive so quickly but I understand why he did.

To be honest, I doubt he has truly forgiven the perp at this point. He's just talking the talk as the first step.

 

[Hejlena]

What was he going to do with a parent standing right there? Refuse after the parent consented?

I agree. Just throwing out ideas, that's all.

 

[libby5264]

Yes, forgiveness heals. It is a simple concept, but not easy.

There is an old saying that harbor ing resentment is like drinking poison and waiting for your enemy to die.

Yeah I do understand that. I can only hope that I would be able to do this. It just seems so soon. I feel like I would still be numb at this point.

 

[Frigga]

I will be very interested to learn the timeline for the time the events went down with the perpetrator.

I wonder if we will learn that had someone in her family noticed and searched sooner- she might have been saved.

I'm just angry that no one seemed to really care where little Jenise was.

 

[borndem]

That's not the case in California:
[SUP]11[/SUP] California Welfare & Institutions Code Section 903.1 provides: "(a) The father, mother, spouse, or other person liable for the support of a minor, the estate of that person, and the estate of the minor, shall be liable for the cost to the county or the court, whichever entity incurred the expenses, of legal services rendered to the minor by an attorney pursuant to an order of the juvenile court. The father, mother, spouse, or other person liable for the support of a minor and the estate of that person shall also be liable for any cost to the county or the court of legal services rendered directly to the father, mother, or spouse, of the minor or any other person liable for the support of the minor, in a dependency proceeding by an attorney appointed pursuant to an order of the juvenile court. The liability of those persons (in this article called relatives) and estates shall be a joint and several liability. (b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), the father, mother, spouse, or other person liable for the support of the minor, the estate of that person, or the estate of the minor, shall not be liable for the costs of any of the legal services provided to any person described in this section if a petition to declare the minor a dependent child of the court pursuant to Section 300 is dismissed at or before the jurisdictional hearing. (c) Fees received pursuant to this section shall be transmitted to the Administrative Office of the Courts in the same manner as prescribed in Section 68085.1 of the Government Code. The Administrative Office of the Courts shall deposit the fees received pursuant to this section into the Trial Court Trust Fund." http://www.shouselaw.com/rights-parents-minors.html

In many states, if the parents have the ability to pay, they are responsible for their child's legal expenses.

Thanks, gitana -- IINM, that's the way it is in most states, although details may vary a bit -- they look at assets, salary of you & the spouse, if there is one (usually) and try to protect the State from having to pay for services that could be paid by those legally responsible and able to pay.

 

[ShadyLady]

I will say one more thing. CPS reports are confidential so the bishop would not know anything about them. The only people that know for sure are the people(s) that made the calls to CPS AND LE, and of course the family and case worker. I know first hand of three calls to CPS and LE from at least 2-3 years ago. And I can't make a comment about how many others have called (due to the fact I did not directly witness). And numerous complains to management over the years.

There is GREAT GUILT being felt by myself and people I know that wonder if we could have done more. If we could have done more to protect the children. I just want justice at this point.

 

[Hejlena]

Yeah I do understand that. I can only hope that I would be able to do this. It just seems so soon. I feel like I would still be numb at this point.

I think I would be too. My own experience with forgiveness and acceptance is that it's not a one-and-done kind of thing, you know? First say it. Then try it. Keep trying until it feels more comfortable and soon it is more of a habit, but [modsnip]damn if there aren't days when I have to yank myself back from the edge of resentment five million times in a row because if I don't, I die inside.

 

[borndem]

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  Steele Creek community still uneasy after arrest in connection to the death of 6-year-old #JeniseWright. http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/local-news/killing-arrest-shake-quiet-east-bremerton-neighborhood_21029944 …
  
  
  
  
  
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  Neighbors are taking precautions in the community that's felt like "a nightmare" this week. #JeniseWright http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/local-news/killing-arrest-shake-quiet-east-bremerton-neighborhood_21029944 …
  
  

 

[iluvmua]

I will say one more thing. CPS reports are confidential so the bishop would not know anything about them. The only people that know for sure are the people(s) that made the calls to CPS AND LE, and of course the family and case worker. I know first hand of three calls to CPS and LE from at least 2-3 years ago. And I can't make a comment about how many others have called (due to the fact I did not directly witness). And numerous complains to management over the years.

There is GREAT GUILT being felt by myself and people I know that wonder if we could have done more. If we could have done more to protect the children. I just want justice at this point.

me too.

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[Lilibet]

For some people, forgiveness is freedom. I don't think I could, in his shoes, but I admire the idea of forgiveness. I think it takes a special soul to find forgiveness in such darkness. I don't particularly think of the father as some great enlightened soul, though, all things told.

I wonder if Jenise's father is able to forgive because he feels that he has been forgiven a great deal in his past. That could make one more willing to extend that forgiveness to others. JMO

 

[newone]

For some people, forgiveness is freedom. I don't think I could, in his shoes, but I admire the idea of forgiveness. I think it takes a special soul to find forgiveness in such darkness. I don't particularly think of the father as some great enlightened soul, though, all things told.

ok...am breathing deep...I have been humbled - deeply humbled by some amazing people I have assisted who are living in shelters....who have survived horrific abuse, etc but manage to get up every day and take steps towards independence and healing. Those who are successful always point out it was realizing that they were powerless without a belief in something greater than themselves. I have seen those with little share the most.

 

[Hejlena]

I will say one more thing. CPS reports are confidential so the bishop would not know anything about them. The only people that know for sure are the people(s) that made the calls to CPS AND LE, and of course the family and case worker. I know first hand of three calls to CPS and LE from at least 2-3 years ago. And I can't make a comment about how many others have called (due to the fact I did not directly witness). And numerous complains to management over the years.

There is GREAT GUILT being felt by myself and people I know that wonder if we could have done more. If we could have done more to protect the children. I just want justice at this point.

Sorry Shady Those are some tough feelings to struggle with.

 

[Mara]

Rest easy, from what I can read of Washington's law, he will be charged as an adult:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=13.04.030

(v) The juvenile is sixteen or seventeen years old on the date the alleged offense is committed and the alleged offense is:

(A) A serious violent offense as defined in RCW 9.94A.030;

(C) Robbery in the first degree, rape of a child in the first degree, or drive-by shooting, committed on or after July 1, 1997;

(I) In such a case the adult criminal court shall have exclusive original jurisdiction.

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I have no fear of him being charged as a juvenile.