Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #8 *Arrest*

[human]

I doubt it was done without permission. My home in on five acres of wooded land. Two years ago we had a derecho that left me with 18 downed trees. I was quite happy to let someone cart off some of that mess.

So interesting because where I live people have to be licensed, bonded and insured. Anyone who gets hurt on your property, otherwise, would be able to sue you. Not worth the risk.

 

[EmmaRose]

I can only speak to the minimal work I have done with sex offenders. As I stated last night I stayed in that sector of my Agency for a year and transferred out. We were a hand picked team who worked with a Doc from N.Y. who opened a clinic a few hours away from my city in Canada. Then as the Institutions closed that's why we got the sex offenders who were mentally challenged. And I mean minimally challenged. It was Jail or us. In my Country (Canada) if a diagnosis of low IQ per say they come to us. Believe me we get/got the gamut. We used a lot of Depo then which caused even more angst. Unfortunately Mario's Clinic was closed down due to funding. And I do think the Government thought his methods unorthodox. He would strip their personality down to nothing and rebuild it. I wont go into how he did it. I believe it had some impact. But man I listened to more sick fantasies than I care to share. The defining moment for me was meeting up with my Clients in the mall. I was with my 4 yr. old Son. (They were accompanied by staff and are in the system with 24 hr. supports until they die) My next Counselling session consisted of listening to how cute my Son was and what he wanted to do with him. I wanted to crawl across the desk and strangle him. I ended the session right there and promptly put in my transfer. I currently work with "Behaviors" it is a challenge and have been doing it a long time. One of my Clients is a Sociopath with violent tendencies. He keeps us on our toes for sure. His manipulations are ingenious. So in essence perhaps some of my opines are based on what I do. Yet I would never claim to be an expert. We all base our opines on life experience.

Wow I give you credit for the self-restraint. Glad you transferred. I would have done the same. Just awful how your client spoke so openly in regard to your son. Talk about getting the creeps...stay safe!!

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

But most mobile homes wouldn't have a fireplace or wood stove, usually they are electric or gas utilities.

Actually, I've seen wood stoves in mobile homes often (scares the beejees out of me, but people use them).

 

[Woe.be.gone]

We don't know why the Children were removed from the home to begin with. I hope it was something benign. They need to heal as a Family. My heart hurts for those Siblings. Glad they are with Family at least and Parents are getting visitation.

In another case, I believe Willow Long case, LE removed a young child witness from the home. At the time, other posters who seemed familiar with LE procedures suggested LE might try to question and get information about the case from the child. I believe there may be several reasons for removing young children from the home when surrounding a murder scene. Why should they be there to overhear or witness anything that's going on surrounding the murder of one of their siblings? Even if my children could stay home, I'd want someone to shield them from the situation after the fact until a time I could function again. Because, I assure you, I'd not be functioning anywhere near normal if one of my children had just been murdered let alone by a relative or close neighbor. I imagine I might be homicidal for the first time ever in my life too.

IMO there's a lot of putting the cart before the horse going on.

 

[matou]

I don't understand what GG chopping firewood with Jenises father has to do with GG raping and murdering JWs daughter. I don't understand why your friends father being a mentor is raising so many questions. I don't get why JW embracing his faith and speaking about forgiveness is an issue. Perhaps it's his way of coping and helps with his grieving.
Perhaps I am missing the point completely

I have questions about this IF Gabe had some issues that needed mentoring by a male figure for some reason. If he was being mentored by anyone, I'd still have the same thought. Maybe he has aggression issues. JMO

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

(respectfully snipped for space)

BBM

How do you know?

I don't know the family personally, I'm just going by comments in other places that have since been removed.



"I wouldn't dare break the rule and I agree it is not relevant. But I do want to say that I completely disagree that it is routine to remove all children from a home when a kid living there goes missing. There 100% must be probable cause and a missing kid is not sufficient.

In WA, CPS needs a pick up order from the court before removal. CPS must draft and sign and file with the court a dependency petition and sworn statement supporting the pick up order. The petition must shows reasonable grounds to believe the child’s health, safety, or welfare will be seriously endangered if not taken into custody.

LE can remove children without a court order though, but only if

There is probable cause to believe that the child is abused or neglected
AND
The child would be injured
OR
The child could not be taken into custody if it were necessary to first obtain a court order.

In a case where a kid went missing, if other kids in the home were removed merely because their sibling or whoever was missing, to "sort things out", (which is just not probable cause in my experience and would not occur), then the arrest of a perp would be enough for the return of the kids at the next dependency court hearing.

I know none of this is relevant to this case at this time but I wanted to clear up the law because it can make a difference for future cases. Removal of children in such cases is generally relevant to the disappearance - typically to what LE knows or is thinking about who is responsible - but, as we have seen, not always. "


Thank you for clearing the CPS issues up, Gitana. I think it's important to keep accurate information out there.

JMO, IMO


P.S. - Imamaze - thank you for fixing the quote. I put the rest of it in italics so that I could separate Gitana's post from mine.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/6-year-old-girl-missing-bremerton/ngtWG/

As detectives got into the investigation, they realized there was probable cause to remove two children from the house,” said Wilson.
Wilson said he couldn't go into the reasons why the children were taken from the home, but said it was related to a case history with the family.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

So interesting because where I live people have to be licensed, bonded and insured. Anyone who gets hurt on your property, otherwise, would be able to sue you. Not worth the risk.

He might have considered the risk ~ Can't get blood from a turnip.

 

[Snoop Sister]

Since this was posted by a mod I assume we are allowed to expound on the possibility of GG being mad at the W family and taking it out on Jenise? I'm having trouble keeping up with what is/isn't allowed though so I thought I would check first.

So am I having trouble in keeping up in what is allowed and what isn't. The other day the thread was shut down by a super mod because there were unauthorized mods telling others what they could post and what not to post. Today someone does the same thing and it is liked. This is totally confusing. The super mod said to use the triangle at the left of the screen if one has concerns about a post.

 

[Mimiof8]

OT, my daughter works in Behavior Health for kids 6-18. She was attacked today by a client, who was trying to stab her in the face. Luckily, she was aware enough he only managed to stab her in the hand. I realize that jobs like hers are important to society and her clients. But her job scares that **** outta me.

 

[dlc]

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/6-year-old-girl-missing-bremerton/ngtWG/

Thank you for the link -- couldn't find it for the life of me. I don't know what's wrong with my head today.

 

[Salem]

Hey Everybody - there is a lot of back and forth regarding Jenise's siblings. Here are the ground rules:

You can discuss what is in MSM ONLY, with a link. Until we get further information on why the kids were taken from the home, if they will be returned, etc. any further discussion is off limits. We don't know what is going on yet and whether or not it is relevant to Jenise.

So, be patient and let's see how this plays out. If it becomes relevant, we will reassess.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[elmomom]

The father of Jenise Wright and his past is off limits. You've been warned over and over about this subject. Timeouts begin from this point on.

Just bumping

 

[tier]

So am I having trouble in keeping up in what is allowed and what isn't. The other day the thread was shut down by a super mod because there were unauthorized mods telling others what they could post and what not to post. Today someone does the same thing and it is liked. This is totally confusing. The super mod said to use the triangle at the left of the screen if one has concerns about a post.

Yes. It wasn't liked by just regular posters but personally thanked by a mod with a separate post. I've been trying to only post with a disclaimer for now so as to be extra careful as I can't keep up with all posts due to only a few minutes here and there to read lately.

 

[Lovejac]

It is an ongoing investigation and LE are still collecting evidence.

I suppose some people would prefer a presser after each new piece of evidence is collected.

Can someone please make that happen? :happydance:

 

[human]

Actually, I've seen wood stoves in mobile homes often (scares the beejees out of me, but people use them).

Once again so interesting.

Chimneys here have to be at least three feet above the roof line.

Then all of the clearance inside and the fire proof walls by the wood stove. Takes a lot of room.

 

[katydid23]

OT, my daughter works in Behavior Health for kids 6-18. She was attacked today by a client, who was trying to stab her in the face. Luckily, she was aware enough he only managed to stab her in the hand. I realize that jobs like hers are important to society and her clients. But her job scares that **** outta me.

:grouphug:

So sorry. That must be very scary. For you and your girl. I used to work with high school "at risk' kids, tutoring and helping them try to graduate. I ran into a few psycho kids myself. Some give little to no warning when they are about to blow their stack. We moved our tutoring room from the English dept. building to the room next to Dean's office so the campus security would be closer. My co-worker was attacked once by a 17 yr old tiny girl, who suddenly jumped up and starting scratching at her eyeballs. After she was detained, she said " Sorry Miss Smith, I was havin a bad day..." :facepalm:

That is why I wonder if this whole case was not just a spontaneous and sudden opportunistic attack. Sure does not seem like he planned it out too well.

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

OT, my daughter works in Behavior Health for kids 6-18. She was attacked today by a client, who was trying to stab her in the face. Luckily, she was aware enough he only managed to stab her in the hand. I realize that jobs like hers are important to society and her clients. But her job scares that **** outta me.

I have an acquaintance that worked in that same field for far longer than I could imagine anyone ever being able to work in it. He once told me that a good day was one when he didn't get spit on or kicked. Now he has it easier, he says. He currently works with adult males with schizophrenia. (Personally I'd rather work with that latter group myself).

 

[Krystine]

In another case, I believe Willow Long case, LE removed a young child witness from the home. At the time, other posters who seemed familiar with LE procedures suggested LE might try to question and get information about the case from the child. I believe there may be several reasons for removing young children from the home when surrounding a murder scene. Why should they be there to overhear or witness anything that's going on surrounding the murder of one of their siblings? Even if my children could stay home, I'd want someone to shield them from the situation after the fact until a time I could function again. Because, I assure you, I'd not be functioning anywhere near normal if one of my children had just been murdered let alone by a relative or close neighbor. I imagine I might be homicidal for the first time ever in my life too.

IMO there's a lot of putting the cart before the horse going on.

I agree. The apprehended children are no doubt in a clean, safe place and they are being well cared for. [modsnip]

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I don't understand what GG chopping firewood with Jenises father has to do with GG raping and murdering JWs daughter. I don't understand why your friends father being a mentor is raising so many questions. I don't get why JW embracing his faith and speaking about forgiveness is an issue. Perhaps it's his way of coping and helps with his grieving.
Perhaps I am missing the point completely

Gosh, bad enough if your 6 yo daughter is raped and murdered. But if she is raped and murdered by a person you thought you had tried to help ~ it would be even worse and raise even more questions.

And, with me, it does make me wonder what the father thought he saw in GG that he needed help in becoming?

I do get why forgiveness is such an issue. It is so hard to do, even with the small stuff, so if he can do it with this it is worthy of talking about!!!

 

[tier]

I grew up in a mobile home and my father was a manager at a park here in western washington. I know some double and triple wide have wood stoves and fireplaces. I have never seen a single have one. I'm not sure if it is a law or just very impractical due to the tiny living space.