WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #17

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I added some clarification in my last two posts.
 
concentric said:
Did Lindsey go to church activities or church summer camp? I thought I read that she did. Wasn't that one of the DG connections to her? Who else?
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From... http://www.girlscoutsww.org/aboutus/camp_properties
Camp Properties
Girl Scouts of Western Washington has six camps available for current members and outside user groups:

•Camp Evergreen
•Camp Klahanee
•Camp Lyle McLeod
•Camp River Ranch
•Camp Robbinswold
•Camp St. Albans



Some nearby boy scout camps..........WW did work on Camp Delezenne for Fish and Wildlife job.

PACIFIC HARBORS - Camp Delezenne
Located Southeast of Elma, Washington. This is a primitive weekend camp with a Swimming Hole. 80 Acres near Elma, WA provides Cub Day Camp, Adult training, Junior Leader training, and weekend camping.
PACIFIC HARBORS - Camp Hahobas
At Camp Hahobas, Scouts can paddle across three lakes, hike a half mile of secluded beach on the Hood Canal and explore trails winding through more than 600 acres of forest land. Operated by the Pacific Harbors Council.
PACIFIC HARBORS - Camp Kilworth
This is a weekend camping area near Federal Way WA. Camp Kilworth is a twenty-five acre property located along the Puget Sound in Federal Way. The camp has been used by Boy Scouts since the 1930s and was a gift to the Council by William Kilworth.
PACIFIC HARBORS - Camp Thunderbird
Camp Thunderbird lies along the shore of Summit Lake west of Olympia. This is a smaller camp - great for younger Scouts. Campers sleep in 3-sided Adirondack shelters (with built-in bunks) or in canvas platform tents provided by Pacific Harbors Council.
PACIFIC HARBORS - Camp Thunderbird
Offering over 40 merit badges (including 11 Eagle-required), Tenderfoot through First Class instruction, and numerous activities unavailable at other summer camps including kayaking, motor-boating, water-skiing, sailing, climbing/rappelling.
 
Jules71 said:
I don't believe he was a youth counselor - I believe he worked in the kitchen iirc. It is not Evergreen.

ETA:
Actually I do not know for sure it is not Evergreen or affiliated with Evergreen in same way. I was thinking we determined which camp it was he worked for, but now thinking back I don't think we did. In the affidavit for the sw, it references DG's boss and her statement about him not working there that night, but I don't think we could track her name to a specific camp.
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I went back and re-read the affidavit and the name of DG's supervisor at the Youth Camp near Olympia was whited-out, so I guess we didn't even have that to try and track down the right youth camp. This also refreshed my memory about DG being suspended from that job from June 7th - 27th, returning to work on June 28th (a Sunday).

Was anything going on at Evergreen church in McCleary on June 26th? I remember talk early on about people wondering if any meetings were being held there at that time.
 
Jules71 said:
I went back and re-read the affidavit and the name of DG's supervisor at the Youth Camp near Olympia was whited-out, so I guess we didn't even have that to try and track down the right youth camp. This also refreshed my memory about DG being suspended from that job from June 7th - 27th, returning to work on June 28th (a Sunday).

Was anything going on at Evergreen church in McCleary on June 26th? I remember talk early on about people wondering if any meetings were being held there at that time.
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Many churches have VBS ( vacation bible school ) for a week around June and July.

Here is Black Lake Bible Camp in Olympia, I will search for others nearby....
http://www.blacklakebiblecamp.com/

This christian school on Black Lake Blvd. may be tied in with the camp.
http://www.ecsonline.cc/phone_address.php

A camp in Cosmopolis...
http://www.shilohbiblecamp.com/

Washington summer camps...
http://www.mysummercamps.com/camps/washington-bible-camps.html
 
I don't know whether this leads anywhere -- but there's a lot of circumstance pointing to DG as a person of concern. He was cruising that night and said weird things the next day. I wonder if instead of being involved in abduction, he saw something?

What could he have seen that would lead him to the conclusion he jumped to? Why would he lie about it (if indeed he did lie about it -- we don't know what he told police)? Who is he afraid of?

I'm getting a feeling that McCleary has a rather strong social divide, and people like DG and the Baums are on one side of it while the mayor, the jewelry store owner, etc are on the other. And some of the people on the other side suspect one of their own, but denial kicks in -- "Oh, leave him/her alone, we know he wouldn't do a thing like that."

Which side of that divide would the woman who sent Josh home fall on? Or the friends with the swimming pool?
 
From the link above:


Grays Harbor County Undersheriff Rick Scott said authorities do not have any indication that the remains might belong to Lindsey Baum, the young girl who disappeared June 26 in the small town of McCleary, about 50 miles away
 
http://www.kelaam.com/pages/localne...vered-near-Toledo=1&blockID=183094&feedID=410
Human Remains Discovered near Toledo [,WA]


( TOLEDO ) – An 8-year old boy playing outside Toledo made a grisly discovery that has local authorities looking for answers. The child discovered human remains yesterday afternoon. They were found at a location along the 100-block of Cougar Lane. Stacy Brown with the Lewis County Sheriff’s Office says it’s too early to know whether the person was the victim of a crime. The remains are likely those of an adult. Cadaver dogs are also being called in to help search for additional clues, including something which might lead to the identity. The investigation also includes checking missing person records.

I added the bold, green emphasis. It's a tragedy regardless of whether it's an adult or a child but at least that statement might suggest it is not LB.
 
so if it's not lindsey or susan then who is it?

any other high attention dissapearences in that area?
 
Olympia mayor pro tem suspected of drug trafficking
By KOMO Staff & News Services
Feb 18, 2010 at 9:16 PM PST
Story Updated: Feb 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM PST

http://www.komonews.com/news/84756032.html

Summary

Olympia Mayor Pro Tem Joe Hyer was arrested on Thursday following a month-long undercover investigation by the Thurston County Narcotics Task Force.

>>>snip

OLYMPIA, Wash. - Olympia Mayor Pro Tem Joe Hyer has been arrested for investigation of marijuana trafficking.

Sheriff's detectives said Hyer, 37, was arrested on Thursday following a month-long undercover investigation by the Thurston County Narcotics Task Force...

...Earlier this week, Hyer took over the position of former county treasurer Robin Hunt, who is vacating her post before the end of her four-year term. Hyer's formal appointment as treasurer is scheduled for March 1...

...Thurston County Republican Party Chairman Scott Roberts called on Hyer to resign from his post...

...Hyer, an Olympia native, was appointed to the Olympia City Council in 2004, and elected the following year. He has served as a board member, as well as the president of the Olympia Downtown Association, and is the co-owner of Alpine Experience, an outdoor equipment retailer in downtown Olympia...

(article continues)

<<<snip

Interesting...and several other choice adjectives.
 
JenniferO said:
TakeNote, while I agree it needs to be addressed I don't think the press conference yesterday was the place to bring up what happened on Saturday.
There are other ways to cross that bridge that won't make anyone angry. ;)
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Hi JenniferO,

I was wondering if you travel back and forth from California to Washington to help with the search center?
 
This article was updated last night and now reads:

"This does not appear to be Lindsey Baum. No, this is not a child," says Stacy Brown of the Lewis County Sheriff's Office.

Investigators say the bones are likely those of a man - but at this time, no one is certain. - snipped

A preliminary investigation has found that the bones appeared to have been in the area for one to two years.
A car was found abandoned in the area during that time. But police are being cautious.

"We are not speculating on who this person may be until we can get a forensic pathologist to look at the bones, analyze them and try to ID the person," Brown said. - snipped

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/84777457.html
 
well if its a man that prtty much rules out everybody we were thinking about
 
scandi said:
Hi Jules, It's great to see you again. Everything you say it what led me to be so suspicious of Mr Nelson ~ and the whole scenario over at his house that evening. Acc to KK the girls had been there swimming the previous day as well. That brings to mind that Lindsey had just been reunited into the clan of the Nelson niece the day before she went missing.

And with Mr Nelson and our learning that he had many male friends there on the night Lindsey vanished, many related, and all 'drink at home buds' per the usual for that small hamlet of McCleary, it seems to me to be a lot of opportunity for look-see's at these swimming and playful girls. IMO


I'm still tossed and torn as to whether she was singled out as a target or died accidentally, like from a truck backing up in a driveway and accidentally hitting her, unbeknownst to the fact she was coming back to seek safe refuge for the night from some other situation, maybe with her brother at home and not wanting to go there.

Right now I think she was A} hit by a truck or car backing out of a driveway that wasn't level, having a large rut running straight across it at the Nelson's, or B} targeted by some sicko at the gas station who took her up yonder as he had visualized in his mind for a long time.

Just me thinking out loud. I wish we would get something tangible to pounce on. Maybe this order against Mr Nelson takes the lead of the two possibilities I see after all these months of studying Lindsey's case. A drinker for sure with wild and wooly man friends. I shudder at the thought!

I need to go catch up on what I have missed. xox xox
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Could this Nelson be related?...maybe at the pool party?...
http://so.co.mason.wa.us/index.php?aid=196

http://www.co.mason.wa.us/astr/parcel_detail.php?parcel_number=121055200218

http://toppeoplefinder.com/people-search.aspx?st=name&lname=nelson&fname=donn&mname=e&city=&state=WA

1 Nelson, Donn Edward
Judgment Debtor Mason Co Superior Ct 03-9-00016-6 01-09-2003
2 Nelson, Donn Edward
Defendant Mason Co Superior Ct 02-1-00293-5 08-05-2002


Wife Georgina...
1 Nelson, Georgina
Plaintiff Mason District Court 99CV00949 09-14-1999
2 Nelson, Georgina D
Petitioner King Co Superior Ct 07-3-00220-4 05-03-2007



Possibly his son Aaron E. Nelson, 32 ...
http://www.peekyou.com/aaron_nelson/35879165
Superior Court Case Summary

Court: Mason Co Superior Ct
Case Number: 02-9-00914-9

Sub Docket Date Docket Code Docket Description Misc Info
10-10-2002 JS
Judgment And Sentence Against The Defendant
Crime Victim Fund
Court Costs
Attorney Fees
10-14-2002 ARCR Account(s) Receivable Created
01-23-2003 ARCL Account(s) Receivable Closed
03-07-2003 SAT Satisfaction


Phonebook results for autumn nelson wa Autumn Throw-Nelson (360) 495-4242 221 E Pine St, Mccleary, WA 98557 Map

1 Throw, Autumn R
Defendant Thurston County Dist 61615 12-26-2002
2 Throw, Autumn Rae
Defendant Thurston County Dist I04852234 09-18-2006

Maybe a connection ?
The family that goes to court together stays together ???

Another Nelson sex offender, who used computers...
http://so.co.mason.wa.us/index.php?aid=371
 
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