WA - Mackenzie Cowell, 17, Wenatchee, 9 Feb 2010 - #5

[MissAnonymous]

Yeah, I am not liking the Lowe's aspect to the case. Stolen goods doesn't make for murder, IMO. The guy was just hired in Dec. at Lowe's and figured out, (was giving enough leeway to), steal tools. Sounds to me like there might have been someone else working at Lowes that was helping him. Maybe the person arrested was gonna tell on MC, (who was somehow involved???), and she was planning on telling the police about the next person higher up, (the one with standing in the community who might then have motive to kill her???)

I don't know. As I said, I don't like this Lowe's direction. Can anyone check the arrest records for the date of the Lowe's story and see who was arrested for the stealing of tools and such? How does the timeline fit in to the MC case? Why wasn't the theif's name given in the story to begin with, unless maybe he was willing to tell all to the prosecutor and asked that his name be left out of the story. Maybe police released the simply store to make his accomplices believe he hadn't rolled on them??? What's his record? Who does he know? Where did he work before? Don't all the home improvement stores like to hire folks that have been in the construction business?

I am not saying the person arrested for stealing tools is involved in this. While this exact thing was going on though the FBI questioned them about tools that they believed were purchased there used in the murder.... Two totally separate cases. Someone just wondered if it could be linked. I personally don't believe they are.

 

[girlfawkes]

Of course, after I posted the Sheriff's official's comments from February 15, I just read this from an Examiner article dated February 23,

"She (Smith) said police are no longer gathering evidence from where Cowell's car and body were found.

'But we still don’t know where she was killed,” Smith said. “So we may have another crime scene at some point.' "
From http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Sea...-scales--back-teen-was-not-sexually-assaulted

It would appear as though somewhere between the 15th and the 23rd something happened to make LE rethink where the killing took place.

The autopsy with forensic experts in attendance immediately comes to my mind.

 

[Nancee Drue]

About those phone calls to Lowe's: Maybe MC was applying for a job at Lowe's? Maybe she was calling a girl friend to talk to her while the girl worked?

I don't think MC drove to Lowes, that day with a male passenger, to pick up tools.

I think after going to the car wash, they headed towards the bridge.

The above is neither fact nor rumor. it's just my good guess.

 

[girlfawkes]

I am no expert.........but, if she had been dead for a couple of days.........say by strangulation...........and then the perp or accomplice(s) did the things that rumor has it were done..................if the heart hasn't been beating for a couple of days, would a body bleed the way it would with another scenario?
(trying to be sensitive...):uk:

It would still be a very messy prospect. Even though postmortem lividity would be advanced (pooling of blood in lowest areas of the body) the blood would still be there. Of course there wouldn't be any arterial spray or anything that would make classic and identifiable patterns on surroundings, but the blood would have to be contained in some fashion. Tarp or ???

Sorry to be so graphic.

 

[greydiggity]

About those phone calls to Lowe's: Maybe MC was applying for a job at Lowe's? Maybe she was calling a girl friend to talk to her while the girl worked?

I don't think MC drove to Lowes, that day with a male passenger, to pick up tools.

I think after going to the car wash, they headed towards the bridge.

The above is neither fact nor rumor. it's just my good guess.

Her friend did not work there. As she explained to LE, she hadn't worked there in months. Nobody knows WHO she was calling there.
I imagine Lowe's would have confirmed whether or not she had applied for a job when LE became involved.
Pretty safe bet she did not drive to Lowe's to pick up tools.

 

[Nancee Drue]

Was it proven that the other house was a possible crime scene? The following statement says there are two crime scenes. How much crime was seen there, in reference, to amount of splattered or smeared evidence? (sorry to be graphic) Maybe none?

"Police are no longer gathering evidence from where Cowell's car and body were found."

 

[girlfawkes]

Does anyone else think its a little crazy that they don't know where she was murdered at this point- 3 weeks after her body was discovered?? Wouldn't you think with all of the leads and possible crime scenes that just we have discussed here that they would have this figured out by now? I don't know... does anyone know if the FBI is still involved? I know they left but were still supposedly involved but is there any way to see if this is true?

To be honest, I'm just a little doubtful of the LE at this point. Does anyone else feel the same way?

I think they have a very good idea of what happened and a timeline layed out with all locations of interest identified. I still firmly believe they are simply waiting on small bits of forensic evidence (DNA and the newly subpoenaed phone records) to get this cat firmly in the bag before an arrest.

I think their suspect(s) are being considered a very low community risk and so they feel they can take their time.

 

[Nancee Drue]

Her friend did not work there. As she explained to LE, she hadn't worked there in months. Nobody knows WHO she was calling there.

I guessed I missed reading something about a friend.

 

[ChelanCountyMom]

Her friend did not work there. As she explained to LE, she hadn't worked there in months. Nobody knows WHO she was calling there.
I imagine Lowe's would have confirmed whether or not she had applied for a job when LE became involved.
Pretty safe bet she did not drive to Lowe's to pick up tools.

Could it be a possibility....whoever she called at Lowes, she could have picked them up from work on the 9th and then went thru the car wash?

 

[girlfawkes]

Was it proven that the other house was a possible crime scene? The following statement says there are two crime scenes. How much crime was seen there, in reference, to amount of splattered or smeared evidence? (sorry to be graphic) Maybe none?

"Police are no longer gathering evidence from where Cowell's car and body were found."

They haven't released any of this information. All they have said was that items were taken from the CB house. This could be very obvious evidence, or simply items in line to be tested, like carpet and paint samples, swabs from tub/shower/sinks, ect...

The spec house has never been officially identified to the media as any sort of scene at all.

 

[greydiggity]

Was it proven that the other house was a possible crime scene? The following statement says there are two crime scenes. How much crime was seen there, in reference, to amount of splattered or smeared evidence? (sorry to be graphic) Maybe none?

"Police are no longer gathering evidence from where Cowell's car and body were found."

I think they realized from the state of the body that they would be dealing with a much more complicated scene. I think forensics would have been there for quite awhile getting samples and documenting findings. People would have noticed a ton of action and a lot of time. I think they are still looking for the place.

 

[ChelanCountyMom]

I found out a Fischer lives up Pitcher Canyon. Don't know if they are related to JF. Info was found on the Chelan County Assessor website.

 

[greydiggity]

Could it be a possibility....whoever she called at Lowes, she could have picked them up from work on the 9th and then went thru the car wash?

I was thinking that as well, but what about the dock? Did they go there after? and why?

 

[greydiggity]

I found out a Fischer lives up Pitcher Canyon. Don't know if they are related to JF. Info was found on the Chelan County Assessor website.

Really? Where in relation to the abandoned car? The 911 call about the abandoned car gives the callers address, so can you decipher the distance from one to the other? Wow...

 

[greydiggity]

Was it proven that the other house was a possible crime scene? The following statement says there are two crime scenes. How much crime was seen there, in reference, to amount of splattered or smeared evidence? (sorry to be graphic) Maybe none?

"Police are no longer gathering evidence from where Cowell's car and body were found."

PLUS, I'd be willing to bet they found something distinctive on the body during the autopsy that confirms her body was elsewhere. Maybe it was certain carpet fibers that weren't found at CB, or foliage that is not present there, or wood particles (sanding shavings) that would point them in another direction besides CB. Even slivers in her clothing consistent with a deck or building site, or cement powder. Anything. With her hair as long as it was, there were likely a lot of fragments in there...

 

[ChelanCountyMom]

I was thinking that as well, but what about the dock? Did they go there after? and why?

Well I was thinking: MC left the beauty school and parked at the boat launch to eat something quickly and kill time before she picked whoever up. I've done the park, eat and kill time at that same boat launch when I worked in Wenatchee.

 

[girlfawkes]

Really? Where in relation to the abandoned car? The 911 call about the abandoned car gives the callers address, so can you decipher the distance from one to the other? Wow...

Mac's car was at the 2300 block, which is all the way at the end of the pavement. If I remember right from my drives up there recently, most of the houses halfway up the canyon are in the 1000's, then there is an area of probably a half mile with no homes at all before you get to the 2000's. So if it's in the 1000's its midway up the canyon, if it's in the 2000's it's up toward the end.

 

[greydiggity]

Well I was thinking: MC left the beauty school and parked at the boat launch to eat something quickly and kill time before she picked whoever up. I've done the park, eat and kill time at that same boat launch when I worked in Wenatchee.

true, and this could have been when she texted her BF...

 

[ChelanCountyMom]

Really? Where in relation to the abandoned car? The 911 call about the abandoned car gives the callers address, so can you decipher the distance from one to the other? Wow...

According to google map: Driving directions between the two locations are 2.0 mi – about 4 mins.

 

[greydiggity]

According to google map: Driving directions between the two locations are 2.0 mi – about 4 mins.

Now to find out if related?