Nancee Drue
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All these rumors are making me dizzy. Some of the rumors have to be true???
I noticed you are referring to "perp" rather than initials. Something specific change your minds or were the initials inappropriate?
Hi deborahr509 I'm not sure if this was directed at me but thought maybe it was because I just made a long post and talked about the perp.
I have seen no evidence that anyone person is responsible for Mackenzie's murder. There has been lots of speculation and rumor but very little to substantiate any of that speculation or rumor.
I am not convinced this crime was committed by a male.
As for using initials - initials are appropriate - I just don't think the initials of the true perp have been posted yet.
Salem
Regarding the COD, the blunt force trauma and strangulation seems plausible in that order, but the stab wound seems totally superfluous. Perhaps the stab wound was postmortem and happened when a knife or other sharp instrument slipped when cutting tape, or something else? In that case there might not be much blood evidence at all, especially if rigor mortis had set in.
Just speculating . . .
ETA - But then, the stab wound was listed as a COD. I would think they would be able to tell if it was postmortem or not.
Ug, I feel like we're back at square one. I was comfortable in our other POI, now you throw this at us. And it TOTALLY makes sense. Why does it feel like we are going in circles?Earlier I was an advocate to the possibility of this murder being related to other murders. What if we simplify what has happened? Could this be gang related? I heard something!!!! If it is, that would complicate a case. There could be many people involved. The weekend after MC disappeared, gang activity peaked and several people were arrested for a drive by, a few days later a couple more were picked up. I know, first hand that many if not all people on probation were called in to their probation officers and checked for violations. Some of them are still being held. If this involved many people, gang members are notorious for not talking, it may take a while for the police to construct what happened. This could also mean that many people were working on this independently. MCs car could have been driven all over town by one person, while she was in the car with another on her way to Crescent Bar. It is possible that gangs could know about Crescent Bar because it is a hangout during the summer and near Quincy. They also have very active gangs? It could also tie in with the guy who Mackenzie had the restraining order against from 2005. Is he currently in a gang? He is in jail, to the best of my knowledge, what is he going on trial for and could MC have had some information that she was going to be testifying to?
Just a couple of thoughts.
You're not convinced this was committed by a male? It would take a pretty big & strong woman to strangle another woman who is tall and strong, don't you think?
Hello there everyone. This is my first post - after monitoring (prefer that term vs. lurking) this case from Thread #1 for a couple of weeks. I am impressed with the mutual level of respect that is required from moderators and delivered from patrons on this site. Look forward to participating, although I've read it a couple of times >> would anyone be willing to enlighten me to getting my post "count" up towards 50 (so sorry to have to ask). Many features here I'll need to become familiar with.
I have to wonder if this talk of a 3rd scene is perhaps a red herring tactic used by LE to lull the perp into revisiting one of the aforementioned areas to try and get rid of any evidence he may have left behind, or perhaps to just give him a temporary feeling of security.
I just think that the timeline is so tight here that LE is probably fully aware of all the movements of Mac and the POI in the time frame in question. Of course, that's assuming that she was killed before her car was found.
Earlier I was an advocate to the possibility of this murder being related to other murders. What if we simplify what has happened? Could this be gang related? I heard something!!!! If it is, that would complicate a case. There could be many people involved. The weekend after MC disappeared, gang activity peaked and several people were arrested for a drive by, a few days later a couple more were picked up. I know, first hand that many if not all people on probation were called in to their probation officers and checked for violations. Some of them are still being held. If this involved many people, gang members are notorious for not talking, it may take a while for the police to construct what happened. This could also mean that many people were working on this independently. MC’s car could have been driven all over town by one person, while she was in the car with another on her way to Crescent Bar. It is possible that gangs could know about Crescent Bar because it is a hangout during the summer and near Quincy. They also have very active gangs? It could also tie in with the guy who Mackenzie had the restraining order against from 2005. Is he currently in a gang? He is in jail, to the best of my knowledge, what is he going on trial for and could MC have had some information that she was going to be testifying to?
Just a couple of thoughts.
I have heard the gang theory floating around in the community, and possibly female gang members involved.
DV was reported to be in the clink at the time of MC's disappearance, and is no longer. I'm not aware of any trials for him coming up? Anyone else have more knowledge on his status?
None the less, it has been speculated MC's death could have been retaliation on DV's behalf by gangs or girls.
My questions are:
How did they get her out of her car and into another vehicle? I have not heard of MC having any verifiable association with gang members? It has been said that this crime was committed by someone close to her?
Not really, it only takes 4lbs of pressure to cut off the air supply and to add that she was hit in the head as well this could have been relatively easy for a woman to commit. MC most likely had very strong legs as she was a dancer but that does not mean she had a lot of upper body strength as a majority of women do not especially as teen. This would also make things easier to control her if she were not as strong in her upper body.
how does anybody know how she died? the autopsy report hasn't been out yet.
how does anybody know how she died? the autopsy report hasn't been out yet.