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I think he looks like the best bet so far. The jaw is really close.
Identified! WA - Skamania County, Male, 30-45, May'03 - Name Withheld
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I think he looks like the best bet so far. The jaw is really close.
Agreed, nobody has a jawline that pronounced, with the possible exception of Steelers mascot Steely McBeam. 
Carl, thank you for copying the text of the email you sent. I've written a few such emails myself but it can be awkward so it's helpful to see how others write inquiries to LE.
Fairy1 sent the UID/Depatie match to Skamania Co. Sheriff's Office in March 2009 and brownieccs2009 reported that Rocky from Doe Network said the match had been ruled out by dentals.
That thread:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79709&highlight=depatie
Carl, thank you for copying the text of the email you sent. I've written a few such emails myself but it can be awkward so it's helpful to see how others write inquiries to LE.
Fairy1 sent the UID/Depatie match to Skamania Co. Sheriff's Office in March 2009 and brownieccs2009 reported that Rocky from Doe Network said the match had been ruled out by dentals.
That thread:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79709&highlight=depatie
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Agreed, nobody has a jawline that pronounced, with the possible exception of Steelers mascot Steely McBeam.
Has anyone checked Steely's Date of Last Contact?
I was going to post that Depatie had been ruled out but ... apparently not. I can't find confirmation of this at least.
This Doe is very similar to another, "Lyle Stevik" who has received much more discussion in the Cold Cases forum. "Lyle Stevik" is the name given by a suicide who checked into a motel then checked out for good - it's also the name of a character in You Must Remember This, a novel by Joyce Carol Oates.
Both are found in the Pacific Northwest with a date of death in the early 2000s (Stevik killed himself 9/17/2001), are fairly tall, fit men in their ~20s with native/Hispanic/white admixture and a very pronounced jaw.
Depatie has been ruled out as "Lyle" but almost any possible match for Lyle is a possible match for this Doe, who was obviously more decomposed, being found around two years after death rather than the day after. (Depatie was much older than the estimated range for Lyle but looked younger and was a student, so possibly also dressed younger).
Oh and for what it's worth, in trying to find a rule out, I found a "Jon Depatie" in Barre NY quite by accident. There isn't another one on Zabasearch, nor is there a Jonathan. It's unlikely to be him but I thought I'd throw it out there.
This Doe is very similar to another, "Lyle Stevik" who has received much more discussion in the Cold Cases forum. "Lyle Stevik" is the name given by a suicide who checked into a motel then checked out for good - it's also the name of a character in You Must Remember This, a novel by Joyce Carol Oates.
Both are found in the Pacific Northwest with a date of death in the early 2000s (Stevik killed himself 9/17/2001), are fairly tall, fit men in their ~20s with native/Hispanic/white admixture and a very pronounced jaw.
Depatie has been ruled out as "Lyle" but almost any possible match for Lyle is a possible match for this Doe, who was obviously more decomposed, being found around two years after death rather than the day after. (Depatie was much older than the estimated range for Lyle but looked younger and was a student, so possibly also dressed younger).
Oh and for what it's worth, in trying to find a rule out, I found a "Jon Depatie" in Barre NY quite by accident. There isn't another one on Zabasearch, nor is there a Jonathan. It's unlikely to be him but I thought I'd throw it out there.
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I've tossed Michael Amico Wallace around in my head as a long shot.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wallace_michael.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wallace_michael.html
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I've been sleuthing this guy on and off for months and I was interested in this guy at one time...
http://doj.mt.gov/enforcement/missingpersons/searchdetail.aspx?RecordKey=13212
http://doj.mt.gov/enforcement/missingpersons/searchdetail.aspx?RecordKey=13212
I don't see why not. Age, height, jaw forehead all look like possibles to me.
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I thought so too, I just didn't want to jump into other people's work. lol I'm a newb at the unidentified stuff, but it is extremely interesting to me...
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Do you think I should make my first attempt at calling this in? LOL Never done this before but was wondering about this guy again today...
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Sure you should. It's not that intimidating. The folks at LSU are friendly people.
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I sent Mary Manhein an email regarding:
http://doenetwork.org/cases/73umwa.html
and
http://doj.mt.gov/enforcement/missingpersons/searchdetail.aspx?RecordKey=13212
I figured since everyone said LSU was nice and helpful that I may as well do my first submitted case... lol
Crossing my fingers...
http://doenetwork.org/cases/73umwa.html
and
http://doj.mt.gov/enforcement/missingpersons/searchdetail.aspx?RecordKey=13212
I figured since everyone said LSU was nice and helpful that I may as well do my first submitted case... lol
Crossing my fingers...
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What do you think about this person?
Jonathan Depatie
Missing 8/11/01 from Missoula, MT
Age: 39
Height: 5'10"
Square Jaw
http://www.nampn.org/cases/depatie_jonathan.html
www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/depatie_jonathan.html
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There is another thread on this topic, but it is dedicated to a specific possible match, which has since been ruled out. So I am starting a new thread.
The Doe Network:
Case File 73UMWA http://doenetwork.org/cases/73umwa.html
NamUs UP Case File 2054 https://identifyus.org/cases/2054
Reconstruction of Victim
Unidentified Male
* The victim was discovered in August 2003 in Southwestern Skamania County, Washington
* Estimated Date of Death: August 2, 2002 - May 1, 2003
* Cause of Death: Believed to be blunt force trauma to skull.
* State of Remains: Mostly decomposed; some missing bones.
Vital Statistics
o Estimated age: 30 - 45 years old
o Approximate Height and Weight: 5'7"-6'0". weight unknown due to decomposition.
o Distinguishing Characteristics: Possibly of Asian or Native heritage. Dark brown / black hair; unknown eye color.
Antemortem injuries to left nasal bone and left eighth rib.
o Clothing: One moccasin-type slipper and one wool sock.
o Jewelry: One gold necklace with pendant of soldered gold nuggets.
o Dentals: Available. Amalgam fillings noted on teeth #3(LOBD), #18(OB), #20(O); natural crown and root is partially missing on tooth #22; enamel broken on teeth #8,9 and 27; teeth #1,16,17 and 32 not seen, may be antemortem loss or congenital absence
o Fingerprints: Not Available.
o DNA: Available
Case History
The victim's femur was located in Southwestern Skamania County, Washington in August 2003 by a neighborhood dog.
The rest of the body was recovered June 19, 2004 in a vacant wooded lot in rural Skamania County.
Victims' Gold Necklace
Jonathan Depatie
Missing 8/11/01 from Missoula, MT
Age: 39
Height: 5'10"
Square Jaw
http://www.nampn.org/cases/depatie_jonathan.html
www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/depatie_jonathan.html
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MERGED POST FOLLOWS To bring to first spot.
There is another thread on this topic, but it is dedicated to a specific possible match, which has since been ruled out. So I am starting a new thread.
The Doe Network:
Case File 73UMWA http://doenetwork.org/cases/73umwa.html
NamUs UP Case File 2054 https://identifyus.org/cases/2054
Reconstruction of Victim
Unidentified Male
* The victim was discovered in August 2003 in Southwestern Skamania County, Washington
* Estimated Date of Death: August 2, 2002 - May 1, 2003
* Cause of Death: Believed to be blunt force trauma to skull.
* State of Remains: Mostly decomposed; some missing bones.
Vital Statistics
o Estimated age: 30 - 45 years old
o Approximate Height and Weight: 5'7"-6'0". weight unknown due to decomposition.
o Distinguishing Characteristics: Possibly of Asian or Native heritage. Dark brown / black hair; unknown eye color.
Antemortem injuries to left nasal bone and left eighth rib.
o Clothing: One moccasin-type slipper and one wool sock.
o Jewelry: One gold necklace with pendant of soldered gold nuggets.
o Dentals: Available. Amalgam fillings noted on teeth #3(LOBD), #18(OB), #20(O); natural crown and root is partially missing on tooth #22; enamel broken on teeth #8,9 and 27; teeth #1,16,17 and 32 not seen, may be antemortem loss or congenital absence
o Fingerprints: Not Available.
o DNA: Available
Case History
The victim's femur was located in Southwestern Skamania County, Washington in August 2003 by a neighborhood dog.
The rest of the body was recovered June 19, 2004 in a vacant wooded lot in rural Skamania County.
Victims' Gold Necklace
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This guy showed up in DoeNet today:
James Dennis Bailey
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4304dmnv.html
His height is slightly above the range (but not too far for skeletal remains).
but his facial shape is identical to the John Doe.
ETA: I sent an e-mail to Helen Bouzon of LSU faces lab, and she immediately responded as follows:
James Dennis Bailey
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4304dmnv.html
His height is slightly above the range (but not too far for skeletal remains).
but his facial shape is identical to the John Doe.
ETA: I sent an e-mail to Helen Bouzon of LSU faces lab, and she immediately responded as follows:
I thought there were some similarities between the UID and
http://www.nampn.org/cases/colegrove_boyd.html
http://www.nampn.org/cases/colegrove_boyd.html
Well, I just got this e-mail back from hbouzon@lsu.edu saying
"Layla,
Based on the dental records posted on NamUs for Boyd Colegrove the two do not match.
Helen"