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Which SHOULD mean it is not a BDI, since an arrest would have to lead to charges for murder. And if he is serious about welcoming local and national assistance in solving the crime, WHY do we get reports that credible pro bono LE specialists offers are turned down? And, why is it common knowledge that the FBI is waiting for the BPD to re-invite them into the case so their assistance can be used?

Very important questions!
 
http://www.insideedition.com/headli...ocumentary-we-were-the-victims-of-a-lynch-mob

Inside Edition
September 1, 2016


JonBenet's Father Speaks Out in New Documentary:
'We Were the Victims of a Lynch Mob'

Folks, I've been stirred up by all of this 20-year stuff, but now I'm MAD!

For one thing, the trailer for the A&E special confirmed my suspicions: there's nothing new here. It's the same old garbage we'd expect from David Mills and the usual suspects repackaged for a new audience. One thinks of a cicada showing up every few years. And among the normal RST bulls**t is the tired, worn-out claim that anyone in the original investigation who believed in the intruder theory was dismissed. We've heard that one, right? But anyone who actually knows about this case knows that they were dismissed because they were unprofessional at best, deliberately broke the law at worst (and I'm looking at you, Lou Smit). Both Alex Hunter and Mary Lacy believed in the intruder theory like a Jesuit believes in Christ. If they got rid of people on their team, it's because those people were drawing too much negative attention.

But that's not the half of it. No, no. I'm speaking directly to YOU, John Ramsey. You say the Boulder police were convinced you did it? Yeah, that's the funny thing about police in this country: they have a knack for zeroing in on killers. But for you, an elderly, white, wealthy businessman to talk about being the "victim" of a "lynch mob" is just the latest in a SERIES of indignities that you and those who side with you, whether they were hired by you or just threw in with you, have perpetrated against the memories of the REAL victims, not just the little victim in this case, but ALL the victims of REAL lynchings!

Let me show you something, John. THIS is what a lynching looks like:

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Oh, you're a great talker, John Ramsey. But as good as you are, you and Patsy were NOT the victims here. The victim was a six-year-old girl who was defenseless. But instead of thinking about her, all you've thought about is yourself. And you've taken pretty good care of yourself, haven't you? And for you to claim victimhood is more VILE, more VULGAR and more OBSCENE than anything you've ever falsely accused anyone else of being guilty of!

My man Johnny Cash said it all:

You may throw your rock and hide your hand
Workin' in the dark against your fellow man
But sure as God made black and white
What's done in the dark will come to the light
You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Sooner or later, God will cut you down.

Sooner or later, God will cut you down.
 
AFAIK, no one is forcing him to give an interview, but I do completely understand your sense of this. As you mention, if BDI, most people can understand a parent’s reaction of circling the wagons, so to speak, to protect their son. I would not do it, but I understand this impulse. What people cannot grasp is the adults' actions post concealment of the indictment by the DA. The non-action of the DA emboldened the Rs to go further on a campaign which ruined others’ reputations and demolished careers by innuendo, false reports, and lawsuits.

Here’s an interesting excerpt from PA’s book. She was the wife of JR’s pilot. PA housed the Rs when the DA said there would be no charges after the GJ concluded. Her book is actually very pro-Patsy, with a number of amazing distortions, like how neat and tidy Patsy was. However, also included in the book was a scene after AH announced to the press there would be no one charged. Patsy was watching a number of channels and news announcers discuss the lack of evidence for an indictment. There was, however, one woman commentator who stated she didn’t understand why they were not indicted since there was so much that pointed to both of them.

Patsy was agitated and said, “I want her name. We need to get our attorneys on her, and sue her for what she is saying.” Patsy was serious and mad that the woman was saying she didn’t understand why they were not indicted since there was so much that pointed to both of them. Yes, Patsy was hopping mad. She jumped up and down and said, “Write her name down as we need to get her for saying these things about us.”

Well, well ,well. Where's the charming, forgiving Southern belle who wouldn't say a bad thing about anyone that RST keeps telling us about?
 
Oh John is so predictable... what was done to us, blah, blah, blah. Not FIND the person who beat and murdered my baby daughter- God help us all- he is still out there. MY daughter deserves justice.

He is SO transparent- how IDI do not see this as a huge problem is beyond me.

Yeah, that's something I can't figure out to this day. When I think about all the people, even professionals who should have known better, who were suckered by him and Patsy, I just don't get it. How did they do it? They suckered me, and I still can't figure it out!

Poor baby girl- if she were mine I would never give up looking for the killer.

Frigga, there's something I'd like to say, but it will probably get me banned for life. So, yes. I agree.
 
Oh really- as far as I know you are still alive and free as are your other children and your wife died of natural causes- unlike your daughter (the true victim here- how weird is that) who was actually strangled (lynched?) and murdered.

GMAB- boo fricken hoo.

Frigga, you said it so much more succinctly than I did!
 
Poor baby girl- if she were mine I would never give up looking for the killer.

Beg pardon, Frigga, if she were yours (or mine, or Super Dave's or Tadpole's) she'd be just fine & we'd have nothing to talk about.

JMHo :seeya:
 
BBM. Yes, and I find it highly suspect that
a 9 year old would WILLINGLY stay in his room and pretend to be asleep at that point.
That much hubbub, had it been a real intruder, ransom note, and hysterical,
911 calling parents, would have kept both of my sons glued to my side at
9 years old, probably sobbing enough that when the police arrived only minutes later,
they would still be snuffling and nearly inconsolable. Burke was prepped by his parent(s)
to go to bed and pretend to be asleep, and quite calm about it considering it all.

Heyya mm,


Don't most kids, when afraid, search out a parent or call out?


Which SHOULD mean it is not a BDI,
since an arrest would have to lead to charges for murder. And if he is serious about
welcoming local and national assistance in solving the crime, WHY do we get reports that
credible pro bono LE specialists offers are turned down? And, why is it common knowledge
that the FBI is waiting for the BPD to re-invite them into the case so their assistance can be used?


http://dailymail.ddns.net/news/jonb...d-by-police-20-years-after-the-mystery-murder

daily mail

JonBenet Ramsey's killer still hunted by police 20 years after the mystery murder
2016.09.02.
 
https://bouldercolorado.gov/police

BPD

Message From The Chief


"On behalf of the dedicated men and women of the Boulder Police Department,
I welcome you to our newly designed website. ..."


Media Relations, BPD:

https://bouldercolorado.gov/newsroo...ear-mark-in-the-jonbenet-ramsey-investigation

"This video has been created to express the department’s continued commitment to this open case and demonstrate the level of investigation that has occurred to date, while also protecting the integrity of the ongoing investigation."
 
Odd blips about the Ws?:

http://www.bustle.com/articles/1818...enet-ramsey-witness-became-an-alleged-suspect

bustle
Sep 1, 2016


Where Is Priscilla White Now?
The JonBenet Ramsey Witness Became An Alledged Suspect


"The Whites had already been cleared in 1997, when the Boulder police called them "key witnesses."
They were thanked for their "full cooperation."
They were cleared again in 2008."

.....
[Then the article then diverts to mention of NK and the alledged sex ring.]


"The Whites became estranged from the Ramseys after the
investigation and accused them of not fully cooperating
with investigators. Since the 2014 Boulder police
statement, they have stayed out of the news.
Seeing as how Burke has given his first interview about
his sister — 20 years later —
there's always the chance they could end their silence.
 
Everything they have said about that night after they arrived at the Stine's house is a lie. Start there.
Yeah I think everything that evening from the party to the final drive home needs to be placed under a microscope. For a moment they should forget about the murder, the staging, etc. and only focus on the hours that led up to it.

"This video has been created to express the department’s continued commitment to this open case and demonstrate the level of investigation that has occurred to date, while also protecting the integrity of the ongoing investigation."
If continued commitment means stonewalling, silence, running in circles, then yeah......you have a continued commitment to this case.
 
What I wouldn't give for the Whites to speak out... I mean really speak about events leading up to, during and after that fateful night.

I have to say tonight I have the strangest feeling that JR has pushed it too far and maybe, just maybe the Universe has had enough.

God love Steve Thomas and James Kolar for trying- there is still hope is what I took away from Kolars book and Super Dave, I loved your book too and understand just how much you (and so many others here) have given to this case.

I want justice for that sweet, strong willed, feisty little girl more then any other victim I have ever followed. Please let someone or something- anything shake loose, let someone get mad, or let someone in a position of power say enough is enough we are moving forward with another Grand Jury... something, anything to bring justice for that precious little girl.

Thank you to all of the brilliant, dedicated minds here. I am proud to be a member of such an incredible group of sleuthers and seekers of justice.
 
Does anyone think it's possible that the Ramsey lawyers had the White's and other family friends/witnesses sign NDAs (non-disclosure agreements) that morning?

Sent from my SM-G928T using Tapatalk
 
I think the calendar linked below will help everyone keep up with all the documentaries coming up over the next couple of months. I’ll update it as new ones are announced, or when the times are announced of others we know are planned. If I’ve missed any, or if any mistakes are found, let me know. No one else will be able to change the items or add new ones, but each of you can change how you view the calendar (monthly, weekly, daily, etc.).

When you open it, it should show the monthly view for the current day. Click on the arrow to the right of “Today” to go to the next month. Hovering your mouse over (or clicking on a single entry) will show more information.

I saved it showing Central Time Zone times. If you want to show your own (or a different) time zone, click on the settings box (blue box with three lines in upper right corner) and select the time zone you want. Your own local time for viewing the documentaries may be different. What can I say? I guess you’ll have to figure that one out for yourself. You can also use the settings to have it send you an email notifying you if I make any changes to it.

I set this up on my desktop PC, but it can also be viewed on a smart phone. Just send yourself the link to it. There is also an app for it; but I haven’t tried that, so I don’t know how well (or even if) it works. If anyone does try the app, let others here know how it works.

If you have problems with it or want to learn more about how to use it, click on the developer’s homepage in the upper left corner.

https://teamup.com/ksebb2935e68ee3a5f
Schedule has been updated (which you would already know if you signed up for email updates).
 
:rockon:
Folks, I've been stirred up by all of this 20-year stuff, but now I'm MAD!

For one thing, the trailer for the A&E special confirmed my suspicions: there's nothing new here. It's the same old garbage we'd expect from David Mills and the usual suspects repackaged for a new audience. One thinks of a cicada showing up every few years. And among the normal RST bulls**t is the tired, worn-out claim that anyone in the original investigation who believed in the intruder theory was dismissed. We've heard that one, right? But anyone who actually knows about this case knows that they were dismissed because they were unprofessional at best, deliberately broke the law at worst (and I'm looking at you, Lou Smit). Both Alex Hunter and Mary Lacy believed in the intruder theory like a Jesuit believes in Christ. If they got rid of people on their team, it's because those people were drawing too much negative attention.

But that's not the half of it. No, no. I'm speaking directly to YOU, John Ramsey. You say the Boulder police were convinced you did it? Yeah, that's the funny thing about police in this country: they have a knack for zeroing in on killers. But for you, an elderly, white, wealthy businessman to talk about being the "victim" of a "lynch mob" is just the latest in a SERIES of indignities that you and those who side with you, whether they were hired by you or just threw in with you, have perpetrated against the memories of the REAL victims, not just the little victim in this case, but ALL the victims of REAL lynchings!

Let me show you something, John. THIS is what a lynching looks like:

View attachment 100606

Oh, you're a great talker, John Ramsey. But as good as you are, you and Patsy were NOT the victims here. The victim was a six-year-old girl who was defenseless. But instead of thinking about her, all you've thought about is yourself. And you've taken pretty good care of yourself, haven't you? And for you to claim victimhood is more VILE, more VULGAR and more OBSCENE than anything you've ever falsely accused anyone else of being guilty of!

My man Johnny Cash said it all:

You may throw your rock and hide your hand
Workin' in the dark against your fellow man
But sure as God made black and white
What's done in the dark will come to the light
You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Sooner or later, God will cut you down.

Sooner or later, God will cut you down.

A magnificent post, SD!
 
Does anyone think it's possible that the Ramsey lawyers had the White's and other family friends/witnesses sign NDAs (non-disclosure agreements) that morning?

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I think its more likely that Fleet and/or Priscilla got tricked into being accessories after the fact that morning(likely Fleet) and this would account for their unconventional stance on this case the past 20 years.

The Ramseys were so arrogant as to blame them for certain things and they could only do that knowing there would be no consequences by doing so.
 
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