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If you believe this, then what is the point of continuing with this case and discussion around it? Websleuths should shut this forum down. If Burke did it, it's done and over. The way I see it, if Burke did do this and his parents covered it up then we have the absolute BEST possible outcome ever. Burke went on the be successful and to our knowledge has never hurt anyone.
Agree with part of this... obviously JR couldn't care less if they find out 'who' killed his daughter. Its not important enough to him or BR. Wonder why that is? Successful, not sure i'd use those words to describe him. Working from home doing computer work. Not a tough gig. A college education can be bought with the right amount of money. He's socially awkward and a 'loner' from what we've heard, even from Dr. P who then went on to change his stance a bit after the fallout from his first show. PR is dead. JR states it financially ruined him (in his eyes at least) and they spend their time suing people. Haven't heard anything about his older kids and how they feel about it lately so can't comment if he has anyone other than BR left. We learned a LOT of info in the past week to 'debate' over. Do i believe 100% of any of the shows. Absolutely not. Will I still keep an open mind. Sure will. Will i continue to chat here and research and hope more comes out. You betcha!
BBM LOL argy bargy.
I have wondered if CBS aired this show for the purpose of eliciting a response from BR and LW so everything can be hashed out in civil court since it can never be hashed out in criminal court. I want to believe that there's at least one media outlet that wants this case resolved once and for all so little JBR can rest in peace.
What is argy bargy?
I am sorry to be blunt but the media has no heart, it is all about money. CBS didn't do this special to help solve a murder, they did it for ratings and money. Dr. Phil is their big show on daytime tv and what better way to advertise the original 6 hour special than interviewing the surviving family members in front of its biggest audience pool
She thought Patsy did it when she met with the grand jury
Do you mean when PR met with the GJ or LP? IIRC, PR and JR were never called to testify before the GJ. I could be wrong, but thought I read that in Thomas's or Kolar's book. Not sure at all if LP was called, so just trying to clarify who you meant. Thanks!
And can you share links of this? I've seen her pic..But that's all I know...except she looks similar to how some predict jbr would look today.Apparently he is quite successful and has had the same girlfriend for years and if you google her, she is gorgeous and successful on her own. Best outcome we could imagine if you believe Burke and Ramsey's were involved.
And can you share links of this? I've seen her pic..But that's all I know...except she looks similar to how some predict jbr would look today.
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Oh for crying out loud. Have you ever heard of any crime, assault, etc that Burke has committed in the past 20 years? Dr. Phil said he is successful and has had the same girlfriend for years.
Oh for crying out loud. Have you ever heard of any crime, assault, etc that Burke has committed in the past 20 years? Dr. Phil said he is successful and has had the same girlfriend for years.
After thinking about it for a while I would say NO, he wasn't involved! It all seems too implausible for me to believe he accidentally killed her and then the parents covering up for him. We would have to believe too many crazy things IMO for the family theory to be true. These piece of evidence that Lou Smit brought up are enough for me to trust the intruder theory -
The intruder left no footprints because he went around and avoided the snow - http://i.imgur.com/AzYkumz.png / http://i.imgur.com/7lThNRs.png / http://i.imgur.com/9Azf8FG.png
Foliage trapped underneath the metal grill, which the intruder moved to get inside the basement - http://i.imgur.com/TWtMJep.png
And we see a disturbance when he landed his feet underneath the metal grill - http://i.imgur.com/1aRmDJs.png
The intruder left his fingerprints on the window he used to get inside the basement - http://i.imgur.com/3YmHVpI.png
The intruder left a shoe print on the briefcase he used to escape the house - http://i.imgur.com/UCummhi.png
Left a shoe/sneaker mark on the wall and left the window open - http://i.imgur.com/KowhrYl.png
(WARNING: GRAPHIC) JonBenét's stun gun marks - http://i.imgur.com/U82Ck5H.png
With the electric arch clearly seen here - http://i.imgur.com/E8lQ2E6.png / http://i.imgur.com/YVyNHuW.png
The garrote used to strangle JonBenét was pulled so hard and violently that pieces of her hair were stuck on it, you really think her parents or brother could have done that? - http://i.imgur.com/2Nyxga2.png / http://i.imgur.com/NdwTliI.png
(WARNING: GRAPHIC) JonBenét was strangled so violently you can see red marks around her entire neck - http://i.imgur.com/BuwGhBz.png
(WARNING: GRAPHIC) So it wasn't just "planted" their by her parents to make it look like a strangulation. She really was severely strangled - http://i.imgur.com/solzTQ3.png
(WARNING: GRAPHIC) Her fingernail marks on her neck suggesting she was fighting back against the strangulation proving she was alive first & strangled. Then she was hit over the head that cracked her skull and died shortly after the blow - http://i.imgur.com/P7ydZLV.png
To me this makes more sense then the "family did it" theory. I can't see Burke hitting her so hard to crack her skull then the parents finding out and covering it up by strangling the daughter they loved very much in the basement to cause severe marks around JonBenét's neck, then sexually assaulting her, then breaking the glass window in the basement, leaving footprint marks, writing a note under great emotional stress and saying they would "behead" their own daughter? The language in the note suggests an intruder wrote it because the language used in the note would not come from an intelligent and caring person like Patsy who loved her daughter too much. Patsy or John didn't have that kind of vocabulary, sorry I just don't buy it. Leaving her dead and cold in the basement like that and pretending not to know where she is when the cops came, that's crazy.
Even the phone call makes sense when you accept the intruder theory. Patsy saying "what did you do?" "Help me Jesus" implies her not knowing anything! Why would she say that off the record when she knew nobody was listening to her, if she knew her daughter was dead in the basement she wouldn't have uttered those words. When they woke up in the morning they may have taught Burke did something to her that's why even John said "we're not speaking to you" but Burke was innocent, it was just a false assumption by them. No, these parents would have died for their children, they loved them too much, they had too much invested in them! You can just tell.
Do you mean when PR met with the GJ or LP? IIRC, PR and JR were never called to testify before the GJ. I could be wrong, but thought I read that in Thomas's or Kolar's book. Not sure at all if LP was called, so just trying to clarify who you meant. Thanks!
Most definitely. They would have walked regardless. I don't think JonBenet will ever receive justice.Well no wonder Hunter chose not to prosecute. Charging the parents of the victim for staging a crime scene to protect their son who is not old enough to be held legally responsible. That would be an uphill battle for sure.
Most definitely. They would have walked regardless. I don't think JonBenet will ever receive justice.![]()
Burke never panicked over anything in his life. IMO - he's not capable - just like he's not capable of empathy.
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