WH Court Hearing 11 May-GJ 20 May, Indicted on Six Charges

[sallye818]

I just need to weigh in after being gone all day today. I can't believe the B&E and animal cruelty charges were dropped against WH. I am SOOO angry over all of this. As a part of WS since the Laci Peterson case, this is the only thread that I've gotten a TO over and I don't want another one...so I will refrain from stating my opinions. But I am praying that there are more serious charges to come, and these charges were only dropped b/c of the ultimate quest for justice for Anjelica.

 

[Phoebeb]

I think there's a chance the "boys" were influenced by WH to go along with the "legal way" to find the jacket. With WH as self-appointed lead investigator, search organizer, creator of private tip line, etc., I could see how in the panicked days after AJ went missing the boys fell into sheep mode, blindly following WH and believing only he could find AJ rather than police.

Maybe the mysterious tip that led to the mysterious clothing discovery on March 19th or 20th opened eyes and caused the one witness to go to police with details of the jacket discovery on the 20th.

That's all MOO, it's just one way I can see it happening

 

[MsMarple]

A simple click on the thanks button didn't suffice. Wes Hadsell is AB like I'm Peter Flippin Pan. IMO, he likes to talk a good game to make himself appear more important than he is (there's that narcissist tendency again) but is 150% full of crap.

Let's review, shall we? In his very close circle of friends/family coming and going (and never leaving, apparently) at the Hadsell residence we have a literal RAINBOW of ethnic groups of people. Black, White, Asian, and who knows what all else. Does anyone honestly think a dedicated racist AB member would tolerate that for a MOMENT?

Survey says............ NO. Not in a million years.

Which is why I'm having a hard time believing WH scared the witnesses into withholding information from LE by threatening them with big bad Aryan Brotherhood. JMO. They've known WH for a long time - long enough to be aware of his empty posturings.

 

[JDauxa]

I think there's a chance the "boys" were influenced by WH to go along with the "legal way" to find the jacket. With WH as self-appointed lead investigator, search organizer, creator of private tip line, etc., I could see how in the panicked days after AJ went missing the boys fell into sheep mode, blindly following WH and believing only he could find AJ rather than police.

Maybe the mysterious tip that led to the mysterious clothing discovery on March 19th or 20th opened eyes and caused the one witness to go to police with details of the jacket discovery on the 20th.

That's all MOO, it's just one way I can see it happening

Yes this! But in my opinion they "blindly followed" because they were in the wrong about something. Just like I believe WH supplied that "wrong" to this group of AJ's "brothers." This is my opinion only.


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[FindHG]

I think there's a chance the "boys" were influenced by WH to go along with the "legal way" to find the jacket. With WH as self-appointed lead investigator, search organizer, creator of private tip line, etc., I could see how in the panicked days after AJ went missing the boys fell into sheep mode, blindly following WH and believing only he could find AJ rather than police.

Maybe the mysterious tip that led to the mysterious clothing discovery on March 19th or 20th opened eyes and caused the one witness to go to police with details of the jacket discovery on the 20th.

That's all MOO, it's just one way I can see it happening

That was said by Wes to have been based on a call into him on one of his tip line phone numbers by an older lady who saw it on her way home or something, that he mentions in one of his rambling interviews, IIRC,
(if I may ask for help locating the link, please?):shame:

What I recall stood out for me at the time he described it was that it could just as easily have been somebody he knew calling it in, as he went into the psycho detail speak about the whole thing.

 

[Pisces22]

from NWLADY link http://wavy.com/2015/05/11/wesley-hadsell-obstruction-of-justice-case-to-be-continued/
snip
"The witness testified that later that night, Hadsell told him he would “be dealt with” if he told police the real story about the jacket.

He went on to describe an encounter several days later, when Hadsell told him to search his name online so he would “know what kind of person he was dealing with,” and that he was part of the Aryan Brotherhood.

The witness said he did not tell police the whole story about the jacket until March 20. They arrested Hadsell the next day, and charged him with four counts of obstructing justice, one charge of possessing ammunition after a felony and one charge of breaking and entering. He was also charged with animal cruelty after allegedly hitting a dog during the break-in."

looking for link that says

JMHO, if witness did say that, I would think would have be on search warrant (probable cause affidavit?) Without that or fingerprints wondering on that ammunition charge sticking. WH didn't deny but didn't admit I being his iirc. and his gun comment could have meant because didn't have one (jmo because I dont know )

I believe the part about watching WH put ammo in the ceiling it actually in the video portion of the WTKR news segment. The video has more details.

http://wtkr.com/2015/05/11/judge-di...ey-hadsell-four-others-will-go-to-grand-jury/

There is also more information about who said what in court today in the Wavy10 video you linked (I think). You may have to watch the video at the links to find the content mentioned.

HTH. I had missed it early because I was only reading the article.

 

[arkansasmimi]

A simple click on the thanks button didn't suffice. Wes Hadsell is AB like I'm Peter Flippin Pan. IMO, he likes to talk a good game to make himself appear more important than he is (there's that narcissist tendency again) but is 150% full of crap.

Let's review, shall we? In his very close circle of friends/family coming and going (and never leaving, apparently) at the Hadsell residence we have a literal RAINBOW of ethnic groups of people. Black, White, Asian, and who knows what all else. Does anyone honestly think a dedicated racist AB member would tolerate that for a MOMENT?

Survey says............ NO. Not in a million years.

bbm Agree ... also thinking aloud I also remember reading this and so if ZH felt this way on March 23, I have no reason to discount his personal feeling on AJ friends. Appears have been around for years

Re: Would she go to purchase from Craigslist alone.... Most likely she would take back up. She has many male friends. All super good guys. Not boyfriends, just really good guys. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...orfolk-3-March-2015-5&p=11616220#post11616220
Last edited by Zach; 03-23-2015 at 12:26 PM

 

[Vail]

A simple click on the thanks button didn't suffice. Wes Hadsell is AB like I'm Peter Flippin Pan. IMO, he likes to talk a good game to make himself appear more important than he is (there's that narcissist tendency again) but is 150% full of crap.

Let's review, shall we? In his very close circle of friends/family coming and going (and never leaving, apparently) at the Hadsell residence we have a literal RAINBOW of ethnic groups of people. Black, White, Asian, and who knows what all else. Does anyone honestly think a dedicated racist AB member would tolerate that for a MOMENT?

Survey says............ NO. Not in a million years.

Imagine a guy like WH, with the mental state we can surmise he has, given what we know of him, have heard and seen, and learned of his past behavior. Most AB members are similarly off-center (JMO/educated judgement) We know he was in prison for a long time after committing several crimes very popular with AB induction: kidnapping, robbery and B&E. He spent part of that prison time in AB controlled territories. It is extremely likely that he "joined" the AB while in prison or was on track to joining which is why he went to prison in the first place (I know it sounds crazy, but people actually do this). AB induction is a long process - he has only been out for 5 years. Murder is a common "test" and an even more common "job" on the outside, along with drug transport and dealing, which we have evidence to suggest. This does not make WH grand or special by any means - he would be the lowest toad on the totem pole, and the AB have no qualms about using their own as patsies, mules or pin cushions IMO, especially if they screw up.

Now I agree with you, I really don't know how CS or even AJ couldn't feel it out, or how no one noticed his AB prison tattoo, which he must have if he is a member. Or maybe this knowledge is part of why he and JH separated to begin with?

Or it could totally be like Elisa Baker and he is just a huge fan of Sons of Anarchy. "Google my name, and you'll know what kind of guy your're dealing with." :laughing:

 

[Phoebeb]

I wonder if the 4 separate obstruction charges represent 4 different people he told to pipe down or be "dealt with"

 

[MsMarple]

That was said by Wes to have been based on a call into him by an older lady who saw it on her way home or something, that he mentions in one of his rambling interviews, IIRC,
(if I may ask for help locating the link, please?):shame:

This one?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tll_DccWAnjsCgnvMktbb7HXTh7CK6Gkxh8C3PLn0No/edit

WH: This person said that they had been there for over a week and they had called before - they left a tip or whatever, message, or whatever. Maybe not spoke to someone but via message. The lady was older - she sounded like she may have been coming back from work. That’s the way she made me believe. She said was it was by a road leading nowhere, that there was a gas station at the end of it. It’s that.. it’s not the gas station – theres a gas station right past that road, but the road she was referencing was the toll road, and if you go past at nighttime it looks like a gas station from afar. Okay, if I had known that I would have known exactly what it was... blahblahblah.

 

[FindHG]

Hi Everyone... forgive me if this has already been posted, I am trying to keep up. Here are a couple good reference articles I found on today's hearing.

5.11.15

http://wtkr.com/2015/05/11/judge-di...ey-hadsell-four-others-will-go-to-grand-jury/

<He was charged with four felony counts of Obstruction of Justice, one count of Possession of Ammunition by a Felon, one felony count of Breaking & Entering into an Occupied House, and one felony count of Maiming an Animal.

The breaking and entering charge and the maiming charge were both dismissed. The other five charges were certified to a Grand Jury.

Those charges will go before the Grand Jury next Wednesday and it will be determined whether Hadsell will be indicted.>

http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news...-court-on-obstruction-other-charges/27109821/

<In a preliminary hearing Monday, four obstruction of justice charges and one possessing ammunition as a felon charge was continued and will now go to a grand jury next week.

A judge dismissed a breaking and entering charge and a misdemeanor charge of crimes against an animal.

The judge heard from four witnesses, including friends of Hadsell who testified that he told them about the break in. They also claim that Hadsell is in an Aryan Brotherhood gang.>

Thank you for doing this, it helps to see it again like this, 4 Free Speech.

 

[NWLady]

But "She's safe."

And...

Snipped by me: JH doesn’t think that anyone who knows Anjelica is involved.“Everybody that we know that she talks to has either been at my house on Tuesday or is involved helping in some way, shape, fashion or form. We’ve reached out to college kids, old kids from high school here. We’ve reached out to everybody. There’s nobody that we haven’t been able to account for.”

http://www.maceandcrown.com/2015/03/07/local-girl-missing-in-norfolk-odu-assists-in-search/

 

[arkansasmimi]

RSBM

In the video:
http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news...-court-on-obstruction-other-charges/27109821/

To clarify:
AB dropped WH off at his hotel then (apparently went inside with WH). AB witnessed WH hide the ammunition inside the duct in his hotel and listened to WH talk about his past and being in the Aryan Brotherhood. Police do not need to report the source of the tip, only what they found in the hotel room. The bullets were on that warrant, and now we know how they knew to look for them.

Thank you for clarifying.

BBM, agree. WH is has a felony record and knows not to have. His fingerprints should be on them.

 

[arkansasmimi]

I wonder if the 4 separate obstruction charges represent 4 different people he told to pipe down or be "dealt with"

or search's? how many had there been up to that time ?

 

[NWLady]

We all want Justice for AJ. She did not deserve any of this. With that being said, Everybody and Anybody involved in any way in AJ's disappearance and demise should be held accountable for their actions and/or inaction (but more so actions IMO). But what's sad is, when I stop and think about it all, especially after seeing/hearing some of the things that came out at the hearing today, I do feel some who were involved, in one way or another, will walk away with no criminal charges, because they are needed as witnesses, their testimonies are needed for the prosecution, and they will all stick together like glue, and in the end - regardless of the roles they *may* have played in AJ's disappearance and demise - they will NOT be held responsible.

 

[Vail]

Thank you for clarifying.

BBM, agree. WH is has a felony record and knows not to have. His fingerprints should be on them.

It doesn't matter, because they were in his hotel room, and they have a witness that saw him hide the ammunition. That is enough for the charge. WH also never denies the bullets were his when interviewed.

 

[alexwood]

Virginia has a speedy trial law

It is under the constitution, everyone is entitled to a seedy trial, civil rights and all that.

Oh, I don't doubt that it'll be one seedy trial alright. :giggle:

 

[4 Free Speech]

Transcript by rev.com of the interview. I have to see it in black and white.

http://wtkr.com/2015/05/11/judge-di...ey-hadsell-four-others-will-go-to-grand-jury/

Speaker 1: Wesley Hadsell was previously a member of the Aryan Brotherhood and was using cocaine to get back into the gang. Those are accusations that were revealed in court today. Wesley is the adoptive father of Angelica "AJ" Hadsell, a Norfolk teen who was found dead last month. News Channel 3's Marissa Jasek has the story.
Marissa Jasek: Wesley Hadsell broke into a woman's home, found his missing daughter's jacket, and tried to hide the truth from police by threatening others. Those are accusations prosecutors made in court today, where Wesley faces several felony charges. All connected to his adoptive daughter, AJ's, disappearance. In all, 4 witnesses testified today. Their statements helped lay out a timeline leading up to Wesley's arrest.
It starts March 5th, 3 days into the search for AJ. That day, the Commonwealth says a man named Corey French found part of AJ's debit card. French lived at the house Wesley is accused of breaking into on Halprin Drive, a block from the Hadsell home. The next day, March 6th, 18 year old Andre Barr, who lives at the Hadsell home, testified that Wesley admitted to the break in, finding AJ's Longwood University jacket stuffed behind a couch cushion, and leaving it out for Barr to find. That night, Barr says Wesley told him and others about the break-in and said if they told police, they "would be dealt with." Then March 8th, Barr goes to this hotel off East Little Creek, where Wesley was living. There, Barr says he watched Wesley hide bullets in an AC vent and listened for hours as Wesley talked about his violent criminal past and wish to once again join the Aryan Brotherhood.
The Commonwealth believes this testimony shows Wesley's repeated attempt to manipulate and intimidate witnesses. Barr admits he first told police he found AJ's jacket but later changed his story, telling investigators it was Wesley all along. The break in charge was dismissed, though. The judge ruled prosecutors couldn't prove intent. His other 5 felony charges will go to a grand jury next week.
In Norfolk, Marissa Jasek, News Channel 3.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Wes was rambling for hours because he had plenty of coke money from the go fundme page.

 

[CabinFever]

A simple click on the thanks button didn't suffice. Wes Hadsell is AB like I'm Peter Flippin Pan. IMO, he likes to talk a good game to make himself appear more important than he is (there's that narcissist tendency again) but is 150% full of crap.

Let's review, shall we? In his very close circle of friends/family coming and going (and never leaving, apparently) at the Hadsell residence we have a literal RAINBOW of ethnic groups of people. Black, White, Asian, and who knows what all else. Does anyone honestly think a dedicated racist AB member would tolerate that for a MOMENT?

Survey says............ NO. Not in a million years.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
Finally, someone who agrees with me!:happydance: