Wait, he said that the baby was with Terri at the school? But not necessarily afterwards?
One of LE's earlier comments on this
But detectives still need help from the public, Gates said -- not only in continuing to keep an eye out for anything related to Kyron's disappearance, but also in understanding why officials haven't released many details about the investigation.
"If we released everything that we knew, we'd get all kinds of people that call in with all kinds of theories. What we want is when we get tips to get fresh information. If we get a call with details that haven't gone out, we know that person is a credible witness," Gates said. "That's integral to the case and that's going to help us solve it. When we release tidbits of information to the public, it's definitely in order to help us solve this case.
"Until we solve this case, the public does not have a right to know the details. Once we solve the case, they have every right to."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/investigators_in_kyron_horman.html
I think that LE probably has formed an opinion as to what happened that day (be it right or wrong). And they are now working to confirm that, plus (hopefully) follow up on other leads or known criminals that do not concur with their working theory.
But I think they are exagerating the number of credible/viable tips and leads (whatever word they used) to pump up/justify funding. It is hard to believe that nearly 3000 good tips have been received. What do they consider a good tip or lead and if they know they are good tips or leads, how do they know if they are still needing to go through them? I am confused by everything we hear or learn about this case and how it is being handled. If a person calls and does not indicate that Kyron was taken by Martians, does that go into the "good tip" jar?
I think that LE probably has formed an opinion as to what happened that day (be it right or wrong). And they are now working to confirm that, plus (hopefully) follow up on other leads or known criminals that do not concur with their working theory.
But I think they are exagerating the number of credible/viable tips and leads (whatever word they used) to pump up/justify funding. It is hard to believe that nearly 3000 good tips have been received. What do they consider a good tip or lead and if they know they are good tips or leads, how do they know if they are still needing to go through them? I am confused by everything we hear or learn about this case and how it is being handled. If a person calls and does not indicate that Kyron was taken by Martians, does that go into the "good tip" jar?
"We have detectives going through each and every tip that goes in," Gates said. "Quite frankly, some of those tips are worthless," but it's a process of what are viable to follow up on and what aren't.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/investigators_in_kyron_horman.html
In this statement he said some of the tips were worthless, so not all are good tips. I doubt he is embellishing to justify extra funds.
bbmOne of LE's earlier comments on this
But detectives still need help from the public, Gates said -- not only in continuing to keep an eye out for anything related to Kyron's disappearance, but also in understanding why officials haven't released many details about the investigation.
"If we released everything that we knew, we'd get all kinds of people that call in with all kinds of theories. What we want is when we get tips to get fresh information. If we get a call with details that haven't gone out, we know that person is a credible witness," Gates said. "That's integral to the case and that's going to help us solve it. When we release tidbits of information to the public, it's definitely in order to help us solve this case.
"Until we solve this case, the public does not have a right to know the details. Once we solve the case, they have every right to."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/investigators_in_kyron_horman.html
Let's stay on topic here. post at random spot....... This is a good question. Lets not get lost on theory.
1. They know whether money ever exchanged hands with the LS. They know how many times they called or texted one another and when the last contact was.
2. They know what Terri spent money on. They know if large sums of cash were withdrawn. They know if a motel room was ever rented by credit card. They know what banks or ATM;s were accessed by Terri.
3. They know what happened during the sting. We don't know. Only that she called 911. What was she saying? What was she doing? What was her demeanor?
4. They know an approximate timeline.
5. They know everything about all of the parents. No one is exempt from that.
6. They know what was in Kaine's home on the day Kyron went missing.
7. They know where Terri was on the Day Kyron went missing based on pings, bank records and any witness testimony. And they might even know if at any point she was with anyone. What she purchased or spent money on like gasoline for the truck etc.
8. They know if there is anyone else out there like MC and LS. Were there others? Was there any other similar activity or was there any money transferred.
9. They know what Terri said or wrote on Craigs list. Subpeonas are a wonderful tool to obtain such records.
10. They know what was on Terri's facebook, private messages, instant messaging, emails. Her computer has been forensicly examined. Cameras also.
11. They know who the parents frequently spend time with. They know about their bills and their financial status.
12. They know Kyron's medical history and his doctor's appt.
13. They know what the school knows about Kyron that morning.
14. They know where each parent was and are trying to nail down where Terri was.
15. They know what questions she failed on the polys.. They know what her testimony has been under questioning.
16. They know if anything was found in or on the truck.
17. They know if the pictures taken of the project were that morning or taken earlier.
18. They know everything that the parents could possibly tell them about Kyron.
19. They know by phone and internet who every call was from or to.
OK I'm getting tired someone take over.
after the pc from yesterday. it doesn't seem like they know anything that we don't.
they were asking people not even affiliated with skyline school for information from 10 weeks ago.
BBM That is a good question. It does seem very odd to me that MC inserted himself in the situation since he had not seen Kaine since high school; and, he then ended up having inappropriate messages (and who knows what else) w/ Terri so quickly? Yep, definitely hinky!:waitasec:
Does anyone seem to think that MC was inserted BY the LE and that he was a mole? I can't help but shake that thought.
Seems odd that all of sudden he was there? Then the texts exploded. And everything went away very quickly. Has he testified for the GJ? If not, why not? He could very well have information from Terri. He came on the scene only AFTER Kaine and the LE officer moved out. Is it possible that LE sent him in to gain some inside information?
Another thing with MC...it said he had shared the RO info with at least 2 other people. Did we ever find out who those were? Don't you think they would want to know?
I just find it really odd that he seems suddenly out of the picture.
I wonder if that is why they believe there is an accomplice? DY just seemed so sure that Kyron is still alive.
I can't decide how I think that Terri was involved. If she actually hurt him herself or if she handed him off. I wonder, though, if LE has found some sort of communication between Terri and someone that she handed him off to? Instant messages, texts, emails, etc. She had to communicate somehow, and the timing of all the info coming out fits into how long it would take LE to get records back from their ISP, cell providers, and whoever else via subpoena or other request. Bottom line though, they had to communicate somehow, if in fact there was another person. Has LE found those communications, if in fact they exist? :waitasec:
Aside from that, I'm thinking that LE has a lot, a lot more than we know. From the info that we are hearing through Kaine and Desiree, LE is briefing them and they sound pretty confident. A quote from the Sheriff comes to mind (paraphrasing here)-that the public doesn't have any right to know about information from an ongoing investigation. Once they finish that investigation, then the public is free to access that information, but not until then. We have to keep the faith in LE and not assume that just because we don't know certain things, they don't exist. LE has been moving confidently forward with their investigation. I wouldn't mistake them focusing only on Terri as them having "tunnel vision". Rather, I take that as them putting together the pieces they have in the course of their investigation. It just so happens that the pieces all point to Terri and her involvement. JMO.