Patty G
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I think Casey came up with the story after Caylee went missing. Just can't quite come up with how the Sawgrass (ZG) came into the story re: visit, guest card, car. :waitasec:
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I think Casey came up with the story after Caylee went missing. Just can't quite come up with how the Sawgrass (ZG) came into the story re: visit, guest card, car. :waitasec:
Patty G
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31 days she had to get the story rehearsed. But it still doesn't clear up ZG at Sawgrass to fit in the story!
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I don't know where she got the ZG and Sawgrass link, but she got if from somewhere.
A few things to note:
- Casey did not know that ZG had any children. In fact, she answered "No" twice when asked in the Universal interview with LE.
- Casey also stated that ZG's roommates were Jennifer and Raquel. The names of ZG's daughters are on the form that Zenaida filled out at Sawgrass, but these are not the names.
- Casey did not use the actual name Zenaida until after Caylee went missing. Casey used the name Zani.
What I would like to know is, would it be possible for Casey to have seen the filled out card in the manager's office while it was empty while ZG was being shown the apartment?
She simply could have seen the name and thought, hey, that's the name I'm going to use for my Zani the Nanny person.
We do know that Casey was trying to find an apartment for Tony during this time period so I don't think it's that much of a stretch.
I think I'll look at the cellphone pings to see if this possibility shows up.
As for Casey's lies, it amazes me, too. But we are talking about someone who convinced everyone that she was getting fat until her 7th month of pregnancy. This is someone who believes her own lies, IMO.
A few things to note:
- Casey did not know that ZG had any children. In fact, she answered "No" twice when asked in the Universal interview with LE.
- Casey also stated that ZG's roommates were Jennifer and Raquel. The names of ZG's daughters are on the form that Zenaida filled out at Sawgrass, but these are not the names.
- Casey did not use the actual name Zenaida until after Caylee went missing. Casey used the name Zani.
What I would like to know is, would it be possible for Casey to have seen the filled out card in the manager's office while it was empty while ZG was being shown the apartment?
She simply could have seen the name and thought, hey, that's the name I'm going to use for my Zani the Nanny person.
We do know that Casey was trying to find an apartment for Tony during this time period so I don't think it's that much of a stretch.
I think I'll look at the cellphone pings to see if this possibility shows up.
As for Casey's lies, it amazes me, too. But we are talking about someone who convinced everyone that she was getting fat until her 7th month of pregnancy. This is someone who believes her own lies, IMO.
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Casey told her brother she was "staking" places out which could be true, but not to look for Caylee...but another victim of theft. I don't think Amy was her first victim. I think it is possible while ZG was in the office (or she followed her to another location) that Casey may have accessed her vehicle looking for credit cards etc. I would like to know what ZG had in her car that day which contained any information.
Patty G
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June 16, 2008 rendition of what happened re: Cindy and George still has no "firm" facts as well as June 24, 2008 rendition of the happenings at the house re: gas cans etc., still has no "firm" facts and still a hole that needs to be filled in.
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For the ZG thing, I believe that Casey saw her name on a list of appointments. She was in the lobby or something but she saw that name and then proceeded to look up a person on the internet to make a match to central florida area. She retrieved personal info from facebook / myspace or the like.
There isn't much that messes with my theory.
KC premeditated the murder of Caylee to get revenge on her over bearing always controlling mother who was closer to Caylee than she was. Obtaining names, vehicle descriptions - she saw ZG get in her car at the apts.
The only thing that didn't go well is that she had to move Caylee's body because the dogs were digging in the area in the back yard. She didn't plan for that or the smell that was left in the car after moving the child's body.
So, to cover up the smell of decomp. she 'planted' her car with it unlocked, all items in full view to stage a kidnapping. But that's the part that didn't pan out. She was planning to tell police she was removed from the car by force and ZG took her car & the child.
I believe that the prosecution will have a similar story at trial.
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There was another ZG that had her office broken into, and her computer was stolen.
http://brevardcounty.momslikeme.com/members/JournalActions.aspx?g=444332&m=599876
Her post was dated June 10,2008.
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The forensic evidence ruins the theory that Caylee is still here with us. It discounts all of KC's unconcerned behavior.
The fact that bothers me is that Casey's car was at the Amscot at 7 a.m. on the 27th, but according to cell/pings she didn't leave TonE's until after 9 a.m. How did she do that unless she had another vehicle available at TonE's apt or got a ride?
Was the Amscot close enough for her to jog there from TonE's apartment?
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I can't understand why after 31 days Casey didn't come up with a good story and an airtight alibi.
Why wait so long and then give a ridiculous scenario? The fact that she admitted to the lies and then continues to tell them just doesn't gel with any theory.
Because she's not nearly as intelligent as she thinks she is.
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That's exactly what bothers me too.
Bolding by me...The way I saw it when I read the docs (not that I'm any kind of computer expert mind you) is that the folder (or file) containing the internet history was created in October 07, but those get constantly re-written as you surf the net and create new history. So it did not mean that she looked up ZG in 10/07, that's only when the file was originally made. Wasn't there also a more current date, like 7/16 also a part of it showing when it was last modified, thus when she did the search? Hope I'm making any sense lol... I'm gonna go re-look at those docs myself to clear this up......
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The fact that bothers me is that Casey's car was at the Amscot at 7 a.m. on the 27th, but according to cell/pings she didn't leave TonE's until after 9 a.m. How did she do that unless she had another vehicle available at TonE's apt or got a ride?
The earliest search for ZFG on the computer taken from the Anthony home (HP Pavillion) according to the forensics report was dated October 2007, this indicated to me that the Zannny the Nanny story was already in play by then.
Do you have a link to support the October 2007 computer searches? I haven't seen forensics on the searches. I'd like to see exactly when the chloroform search was made as well. From what I know, there was a ZFG search conducted on July 16th by someone in the A home, which was after the name was brought up to LE.
TIA!
Ok, I just re-checked the docs, and yes, those files were "Archive Files" and so they were created much earlier but constantly re-written. So the search was NOT done in 10/07, the search for ZG on the net on her computer was ONLY on 7/16/08. It specifically states that on pg. 3 of the Computer Forensics report also. So that makes the scenario much less complicated IMO
It's about a mile and a half away. Unless she is used to jogging, I can't see her doing that in the muggy heat. If she did though, she would have been a dripping and dehydrated mess by the time she got to Amcsot.
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You do make sense. The search on 7/16 (after Casey was arrested) was perhaps done by someone in the Anthony family.
Patty G
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This ZG lives ~52 miles away from Orlando.
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Also, KC did not recognize the picture of the real ZFG
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What Facts Ruin Your Theory?
What facts about this case contradict or are bothersome to your theory about what happened to Caylee. I was just wondering if we all have the same bothersome details that cannot be explained in our theories.
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What Facts Ruin Your Theory?
What facts about this case contradict or are bothersome to your theory about what happened to Caylee. I was just wondering if we all have the same bothersome details that cannot be explained in our theories.