What is Casey thinking/feeling/doing right now?

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves
Status
Not open for further replies.
I can tell you what KC is thinking, today.

She's in deep mourning. There has been nothing significant on her radio or the pod TV about her in FAR too long. :-(

But, (she brightens up) a Hostess Ding-Dong will make it feel MUCH better!
 
I wonder if KC was screaming inside of her head today when JB went down the "TL could have something to do with things so I need his phone records" road.
KC never tried to pin this on TL, and she has to know that she herself told LE and Christina C. that TL had nothing to do with it. She must be wondering where the hell JB is going with that, but of course, as most would, she'll keep her mouth shut and let JB go down that road.
BTW, I am sad for TL now, he may have to be fully exposed, like JG, in order to clear his name. Another young man's life effected by this ameoba.
 
KC does look like she is having trouble sleeping, I think it has finally sunk in just how much trouble she is in.

Really though, it looks to me like she has lost weight, is having trouble sleeping, and doesn't feel well. I think she is finally beginning to grasp that she is in major trouble with this whole case.

Perhaps she feels some regret for her actions. It stands to reason that over time, even someone who feels very little emotion does feel something.. an occassional flash of insight, when a subject is brought up frequently and kept in front of them so that they cannot forget about it. Perhaps she does feel some degree of sorrow over little Caylees death.

Probably though, it is just a slow growing realization that she is in deep trouble, that the trial is going to be for real, not some Hollywood version where she gets to be exonerated, voted Mother of the Year, and walk out the court room door to a swell of triumphant music.
 
Me too. Among all the other coverup carp CA has done and said. This probably was the beginning of my theories that CA knew back on June 15 late into the early hours of June 16, Caylee was murdered. My theory alone ........

Still re-reading the docs and interviews.

You're not alone with the theory.

.......Cindy even gave her a warning by texting her on July 15th. Most likely enough time for KC to clear her computer.
 
Since CA texted kc after the tow yard, that tells me she knew kc was alive and Caylee was not.
 
I know you weren't asking me, but I don't think she's crying. She has only cried for herself on a few rare occasions and I don't think she really felt anything then. I think she's still going through the 'pity-me-don't-you-understand-what-i'm-going-through' phase... but I don't think she's literally crying about it.
When we have seen her cry, she wipes them with her fingers, and looks at them like 'wtf are these'.

She is devoid of any emotion. She's not sad, mad, glad.........she's not anything. She's empty.

I respectfully disagree with this. Sociopaths feel. They feel mad, glad, sad, annoyed, irriatated, afraid (though not much fear as most of us can), jealous, concern, etc. They just don't feel those things for anyone else but themselves. I'll go further and say that the issue of socipathy is not completely black and white. There may be degrees. For example, although I do not believe these types feel actual love for another, because that takes being able to put themselves in the shoes of another, to feel empathy, etc, I do think they are capable of feeling a fondness for their kids or parents, romanticize relationships in the sense that they may believe they care for their significant other (even when they don't) and romanticize or feel fondness about places, things, like their house or certain food, and so on.
In the case of almost all sociopaths, they know there is something different about them and they report feeling empty, at times. But they often feel, from what I have studied, that the guilt feelings, pity, empathy and concern that others display, is either false, or a sign of weakness. They must know somehow that these feelings actually exist in other, though, otherwise there would be no reason to emulate those feelings. If they truly believed that everyone felt the way they do, there would be no logical reason to act like they care about anything other than themselves because no one would care about such feelings or know such feelings actually exist. I think that sociopaths generally feel they are better, stronger and smarter than everyone else and that only fools or weaklings actually feel the things that define us as human.
In casey's case, I do believe she had and even may have some feelings for Caylee and her brother and parents. I think she has a nostalgic feeling for her parents due to her role as their princess and how comfortable she was with what they provided and how they likely always protected her from herself. I believe it is possible that she tears up at the sight of them and what she has lost, although she never had all that normal people do, due to her defective soul. I also think she felt for her daughter and may still feel for her in some way, shape or form. Probably in more of a possessory fashion. It's likely that casey saw Caylee as part of herself, but not an indispensible one, so she had the right to get rid of that part of herself. I think she may have enjoyed Caylee at some times, when the baby was being especially cute, for example, and I don't think it is impossible that she even misses her now and then.
But any trace of feeling she may have or have had towards anyone else was always tempered by other, more dominant feelings. Thus, if she has twinges of remorse when she sees her parents, or fear that they will be able to read her, she also feels great anger towards them, blames them in larger degree for her "predicament" and spends time reveling in the power to punish tme by withholding contact or even the acknwoldgement of their presence. Likewise, if she did indeed enjoy Caylee at times, her possesory feelings, and also probably feelings of anger towards the child, and a feeling of being "trapped" by her baby, allowed her to shove aside any residual feelings she may have had for Caylee such that she could snuff out her life.
Normal people are appalled, disgusted and confused by the likes of casey. We often have to act as if they have no traces of humanness at all, in order to process the fact that a mother like her, could actually destroy the best thing that ever happened to her. But I think the psychology is much more complex than "She's completely dead inside, like a shark".
Otherwise, there would be no reason to place a heart sticker on the tape she placed over the child's mouth. It was, I believe, a sign that a monster like casey is much more horrible than we actually can bear to believe. Because, she can feel things and thus must know that others will feel and suffer, as a result of her actions. She did what she wanted regardless of knowing it would cause pain to those that loved her baby and to Caylee herself. As she suffocated or drowned or did whatever she did to her child, she recognized the universal signs of extreme panic, distress, the will to live, the need to breathe, the fear and the sorrow as the one who was supposed to love Caylee best, watched her struggle to survive and nevetheless fought to end her life. That casey can feel makes her that much scarier to me.
 
KC does look like she is having trouble sleeping, I think it has finally sunk in just how much trouble she is in.

Really though, it looks to me like she has lost weight, is having trouble sleeping, and doesn't feel well. I think she is finally beginning to grasp that she is in major trouble with this whole case.

Perhaps she feels some regret for her actions. It stands to reason that over time, even someone who feels very little emotion does feel something.. an occassional flash of insight, when a subject is brought up frequently and kept in front of them so that they cannot forget about it. Perhaps she does feel some degree of sorrow over little Caylees death.

Probably though, it is just a slow growing realization that she is in deep trouble, that the trial is going to be for real, not some Hollywood version where she gets to be exonerated, voted Mother of the Year, and walk out the court room door to a swell of triumphant music.

...it could also be she is purging again ?:eek:
 
I think KC can only mimic emotions that she has figured out over the years are expected of her. I think when she placed that heart sticker there, that was KC mimicing how she thought love should be shown. I do not believe she felt ANYTHING.
 
I think KC can only mimic emotions that she has figured out over the years are expected of her. I think when she placed that heart sticker there, that was KC mimicing how she thought love should be shown. I do not believe she felt ANYTHING.

True ... from everything I've read, sociopaths only mimic the emotions and actions of others - the feelings and instincts do not come naturally, so they have to watch others to determine how they should react in various situations. Many times, their actions aren't appropriate reactions to certain situations.
 
Otherwise, there would be no reason to place a heart sticker on the tape she placed over the child's mouth. It was, I believe, a sign that a monster like casey is much more horrible than we actually can bear to believe. Because, she can feel things and thus must know that others will feel and suffer, as a result of her actions. She did what she wanted regardless of knowing it would cause pain to those that loved her baby and to Caylee herself. As she suffocated or drowned or did whatever she did to her child, she recognized the universal signs of extreme panic, distress, the will to live, the need to breathe, the fear and the sorrow as the one who was supposed to love Caylee best, watched her struggle to survive and nevetheless fought to end her life. That casey can feel makes her that much scarier to me.

Not sure if this is posted right, but I like the way you described Casey here. It's kind of the thinking that I have felt during this time that we have learned more about her. I believe she did actually feel those feelings as she was in the process of killing Caylee, but by the time she did it was too late, Caylee was already dead, that's why she placed the heart sticker on the tape, in her own weird way it was to show Caylee that she did love her and didn't really mean to kill her, just to teach her a lesson and especially her mother, Cindy, because of the fight, spiteful ***** comments, I believe she thought...."see mom I'll show you, you think I am a spiteful *****well, there you go".

When watching the hearings yesterday, those were real tears, I still think she has finally realized she's not going to get out of this, her lawyers are now just doing there job and that is all......at times I have a "crazy" thought that she is gong to just stand up in the courtroom and scream, "alright I did it, now what, I'm a spiteful *****, do whatever you want to me".....Casey has shown that she has a temper and blows up at times, even though she didn't realize at the time that we would see those jail tapes.....I just think that somebody with that much rage, anger can not keep it all in check all this time.....oh well, I just want to see into the future and know what is going to happen, time will only tell......
 
Since CA texted kc after the tow yard, that tells me she knew kc was alive and Caylee was not.

This is what I first thought too, until more and more evidence was released.

Now the only fence I sit on is whether CA/GA/LA had any participation in either the actual murder and coverup. Which ever it is; they are involved up to their ying-yangs in it.

I now believe, and have for many months, that CA texted KC after the tow yard find was discovered, it was to let her know they found it. And since another person could possibly notify LE of the odor they now they needed to do damage control, again. There was 2 or more hours for the A clan to fix, update however ya want to quantify it, the coverup.

CAs 3rd and final 911 call clinched it all for me. She knew before, she knew then and she dang well knows now. :furious:
 
What is she thinking?
I can't even imagine and am glad I can't actually. She leaves me wordless but I'll try. I think she thinks about the next time she'll get to see JB, when the next meal is and planning her WC use to times when the guard has their back turned and not much else.
Is she planning her defense?
No. The web is sooooo tangled, she's trapped in it like a cocoon and it's squeezing fluid from her eyes and we all thought they were tears on Friday. Without internet access, she can't even remember her lies correctly to help anyway. The only defense will be AL crying :eek:so KC's input isn't required.
Is she feeling regret?
Not in any way you or I would.I bet she regrets being found by CA and the chain of events that followed. I believe what we saw on Friday was shame and embarrassment over her appearance, not over the charges she's facing. I'm sorry to mention appearance, but wouldn't it be better for an 'innocent' victimized young mother to appear in their prison scrubs, than in strange ill fitting clothes that haven't seen an iron or washer maybe ever? What are her dream team or..parents thinking? KC was mortified by the whole court appearance, nothing deeper IMO.
Do you think she ever thinks about Caylee?
It wouldn't nursy for me to say I hope she's haunted by thoughts of her but I can't help but feel it. I'm not sure KC has a shred of conscience so any thoughts of Caylee are probably limited to what she should have done differently to avoid her own pain, not Caylees.
Do you think she understands the gravity of her actions?
She's starting too it seems. It looked to me like she was hearing those defense theories for the first time. Watching her watch her life unravel was jarring (but poetic). :rolleyes:
Does she think about her family?
Not in any nice way. She's the boss of the corporation as GA said and JB works for her. Taped or not, an innocent person could never be denied or would their parents fear a visitation with the daughter, who if convicted, they'll never have easy access to again. The idea is outrageous. If CA and GA visited KC and they all just sat there crying, which is what a normal 'innocent' person and her parents would do in this situation it would probably not be released or even widely watched if it was. It would help the defense you'd think.
Is she writing them apology letters?
In code maybe. KC is the victim in this script IMO. She expects them to apologize to her, more than they already have.
Does she have trouble sleeping?
So many good and fine people do, it would be criminal if she didn't but I actually bet she spends 15 hours a day sleeping so I say no. I think she's anemic from bad eating and had been crying prior to her arrival in court to create the puffy, dark, glassy eyes.

Thanks for asking!! Venting was good! :)
 
I believe that finally it is sinking in to KC that the only "BEAUTIFUL LIFE" she is likely to see is in her tatoo. Poor me....Life is so unfair...Guess I will wipe at my eyes until they water and look irritated.
 
I really can't help but compare her to Scott Peterson. He had a comfortable life, yet when his family (wife and unborn baby) got in the way of a new life with a new love interest, he didn't hesitate to eliminate them. In jail, from what I understand, he too, studied law books to aid in his defense. In the end, the facts prevailed and he was convicted.

I see the same with Casey - except that she's not capable of maintaining her act publicly - she just shut down when the truth started to come out - she's hidden in a shell, away from anyone she perceives as not believing her story (which is everyone except her hired posse). I'm not totally convinced that her family is actually supporting her, other than to mouth the words. JMHO.

I think the tears (if they were real) come from her feeling sorry for herself - she's not getting the spotlight that she had in the past and other than the legal team, she has no support.

Do we know if anyone other than her legal team is visiting her?
 
She is drowning in the reality of there being a DEATH PENALTY sentence for her. That myspace icon with the rope and little girl with "Why do people want to kill people who kill people ..." Remember that? Back then, Casey knew what she had done could be a DP case, but I guess until now she believed she would get out of it. Each day it is alittle harder for her to go to that fantasy place. She may not get out! She may actually receive the Death Penalty! Reality is ruining her life!
 
I just checked the phone records. Call from Casey to Tony 7:22 am July 16, 122 minutes. Tony mentions the call in his statement to LE at some point, also, but IIRC the officer whizzes past that reference, like they don't want to talk about it on tape.
Oooh...could this be the reason why they didn't want to submit the phone records for that period of time? We don't have any idea of what they talked about, do we? I thought Casey had taken a shower and gone to sleep for a few hours...or at least that was reported IIRC.
 
From the looks of KC at the hearing, she is suffering. She doesn't seem to care about her appearance, or she would at least wash her hair and put a little eye make-up on. She probably spends her days sleeping as much as she can. Although Cindy said on LK that they exchange letters, I don't believe this. Surely, none of her ex-friends are communicating with her. I'm sure that at this point she knows that she will never get out of jail and she might even face the DP. She is probably going over and over in her brain all of the coulda, woulda, shouldas and blaming Caylee, Cindy and George for what has happened to her. If she wasn't such an odious creature, I would feel sorry for her.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
74
Guests online
240
Total visitors
314

Forum statistics

Threads
609,681
Messages
18,256,632
Members
234,723
Latest member
Pamadeus
Back
Top