Whitney Houston passed away on 2/11/12 - Part 2

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gajonka said:
I understand - and my intent was to yield information carefully. The external forces involved are so great, for me to pour it out would be carless, and dangerous.

So, does anyone else feel that leaving the body in the building so the party can enjoy whatever spirits are released, and not taking her out until 1.50 am -- nobody else finds that to be a bit... suspicious?
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I find it odd & maybe disrespectful that she was left there for so long but not suspicious.
 
gajonka said:
Yes, when a spirit emerges from the body after death (especially, with these people in the industry, they believe that if it is done under water, it is specific to their ritual). As an example, if one were to drive to a cemetary, put it in park, hit the lights, step out of the vehicle and close the door. Then, in pure darkness, if one were to enter the cemetary with their eyes closed, there is more likely a chance of it happeneing that it not happening (a/k/a more likely than not) that one would encounter a presence.

This is what I mean by spirits. They must have enjoyed being within 50 yards of her... as part of their ritual.
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I'm not attacking but this stuff is way out in the stratosphere & no comprende here.
 
kato said:
I'm not attacking but this stuff is way out in the stratosphere & no comprende here.
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Can anyone confirm that there was a complaint made the night before they found Ns. Houston... that water was dripping down from the ceiling below the bloc of rooms she rented out?

This will be my penultimate post- regarding Ms. Houston. I still believe she was murdered. In one of the pics on TMZ , I see an ashtray upside down on the ground. That's a sign of struggle. Now, if her drink was poisoned, she could have been frantic and items could have been thrown, moved... but then who placed her nice and neatly below water?

Also, the M on stage with Madonna is a W when viewed from the performer's side.
 
gajonka said:
Can anyone confirm that there was a complaint made the night before they found Ns. Houston... that water was dripping down from the ceiling below the bloc of rooms she rented out?

This will be my penultimate post- regarding Ms. Houston. I still believe she was murdered. In one of the pics on TMZ , I see an ashtray upside down on the ground. That's a sign of struggle. Now, if her drink was poisoned, she could have been frantic and items could have been thrown, moved... but then who placed her nice and neatly below water?

Also, the M on stage with Madonna is a W when viewed from the performer's side.
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I can't answer your questions about the dripping tub.

This doesn't have to be your penultimate post on WH forum. That's what WS is all about. That is what good about WS. We can post, reply and have opinions respectfully.
 
kato said:
I can't answer your questions about the dripping tub.

This doesn't have to be your penultimate post on WH forum. That's what WS is all about. That is what good about WS. We can post, reply and have opinions respectfully.[/QUOTE

I cannot confirm it, but this is what I heard -that the person below her - on floor 3- complained abut water dripping into his room. When he went up to check it out with hotel staff, he peered into the room and saw that the tv was busted in. There is so much to this that we do not know about - obvioulsly, we are beyonf even being third parties. We are (in their minds) insignififcant parties... so they will not give us all the info, they bill bury most of it, which is why we must fight- only if there is reason to. I mentioned my penultimate post because - as we know- they control everything... and If I stir up too much awareness, especially within a forum and site where the smartest of the smart surf, I could be in trouble.
I need to re-establish the gateways that proetect my eyes from seeing these types of things... I wish I never did see them.. it is very scary to know what has happened... and what is going on.

I can totally agree with many who dismiss numerology. But it is not a science, or practice. This is how they communicate messages to members everywhere. Only memebrs will recognize the hidden meaning behind her room number adding up to 11.


All I know is... for an industry that worships the devil ( do not research, will only bring you pain) they do not love those who preach their faith. And the word devil spelled backwards in Clive Davis is no coincidence.
lu ya,
The (g)
Signing off...
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gajonka said:
Can anyone confirm that there was a complaint made the night before they found Ns. Houston... that water was dripping down from the ceiling below the bloc of rooms she rented out?

This will be my penultimate post- regarding Ms. Houston. I still believe she was murdered. In one of the pics on TMZ , I see an ashtray upside down on the ground. That's a sign of struggle. Now, if her drink was poisoned, she could have been frantic and items could have been thrown, moved... but then who placed her nice and neatly below water?

Also, the M on stage with Madonna is a W when viewed from the performer's side.
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I saw the ashtray too, but I thought it might have been knocked over when Whitney fell or when they rushed in to get her out of the tub. A lady in the hotel room above Whitney's said she heard two loud thumps. Now they are saying that members of Whitney's entourage were in her hotel room when she was in the bathroom. If so, why didn't they hear the thumps and check on her? If they were heard in the room above, they had to been able to hear it in a room next to the bathroom. I still think Ray J. was there when she died and then got out of there and let others find the body. I heard that police were viewing the hotel surveillance film, so if Ray J was leaving the hotel not long before Whitney's body was found, I think that is significant.
 
Luzianne said:
I saw the ashtray too, but I thought it might have been knocked over when Whitney fell or when they rushed in to get her out of the tub. A lady in the hotel room above Whitney's said she heard two loud thumps. Now they are saying that members of Whitney's entourage were in her hotel room when she was in the bathroom. If so, why didn't they hear the thumps and check on her? If they were heard in the room above, they had to been able to hear it in a room next to the bathroom. I still think Ray J. was there when she died and then got out of there and let others find the body. I heard that police were viewing the hotel surveillance film, so if Ray J was leaving the hotel not long before Whitney's body was found, I think that is significant.
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RBBM

Couldn't agree more...
 
21merc7 said:
Much more at link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...er-Hudson-shortlisted-play-singer-biopic.html

I vote Jennifer Hudson, she sings the closest, but I guess they would just have any singing as recordings of Whitney.

IDK why these kinds of movies are made, guess they are good for t.v. movies, but I don't have cable, so go figure. I guess I shouldn't comment about that as I don't see many movies. The last one I remember seeing was Prospero's Books, and was probably the last one I would pay to see, unless something comparable comes out in the "art film" category. I just don't have the time or the $ for movies.

If you think about it, we already know too much about WH. It were not for the paparazzi spreading star gossip the last few generations and that horrible reality show with Brown, this might be a better idea to me. We don't need to go through the bad years on screen all over again. jmo
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If there will be a made-for-TV movie about Whitney Houston, my vote would go to Vanessa Williams. She is talented, sings well, and is very attractive. Given her age and life experiences, Ms. Williams would be preferable in portraying an older, more sophisticated Whitney Houston, while either of the two younger talents would be better suited to playing a young Ms. Houston. I suppose it will depend on the screenplay and what aspect of Whitney's life would be the ultimate focus: Professional success or personal struggles. jmo

I didn't watch any of the Oscar's last night and haven't followed any of the coverage today in the wake of the school shooting near Cleveland and some breaking local news stories. Was there a special tribute to Whitney Houston, or was she just included in the usual "in memoriam" that is featured during the program? Thanks to anyone for info.
 
Whitney Houston was included in the "memoriam" section, along with others. In fairness, it's not as though she made a lot of movies. Elizabeth Taylor closed the tribute section, and rightfully so.
 
BetteDavisEyes said:
If there will be a made-for-TV movie about Whitney Houston, my vote would go to Vanessa Williams. She is talented, sings well, and is very attractive. Given her age and life experiences, Ms. Williams would be preferable in portraying an older, more sophisticated Whitney Houston, while either of the two younger talents would be better suited to playing a young Ms. Houston. I suppose it will depend on the screenplay and what aspect of Whitney's life would be the ultimate focus: Professional success or personal struggles. jmo

I didn't watch any of the Oscar's last night and haven't followed any of the coverage today in the wake of the school shooting near Cleveland and some breaking local news stories. Was there a special tribute to Whitney Houston, or was she just included in the usual "in memoriam" that is featured during the program? Thanks to anyone for info.
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Just the usual in memoriam. She was included with a lot of people who had died. I really couldn't believe so many.
 
annmarie62 said:
First of all, there are a few S-T-R-A-N-G-E posts on this thread, which I will choose to ignore, because if I said what I thought of them, I would get banned. So- moving on- sadly, to me, there is no 'big mystery' re. WH's death and/or the timeline with regard to emergency measures being (or not being) used, or re. the time it took to remove her body from the room. As a poster above stated, this was a SUPERSTAR staying at the BEVERLY HILLS HILTON on the eve of the GRAMMYS!! 'Nuff said there... It is an irrefutable and sad fact that drug use catches up with any and ALL hard-core addicts; as much as we loved WH, she WAS a serious addict. No surprise that death came to call eventually, however tragic/pathetic the scenario. As for myself, I choose to remember what I loved about her music and her larger-than-life persona, and to mourn that and that alone. Last Saturday, I tuned into her funeral on TV, expecting to watch for just a few minutes... almost four (4!!) hours later, I had finished watching the entire thing, and was even sad it was over. What a beautiful funeral/home-going. God bless Cissy Houston for celebrating her beloved daughter's life in the church she grew up in as opposed to some generic auditorium-style memorial... the service really gave a fresh perspective on Whitney's life, and on what she meant to those closest to her. I don't understand why some are vilifying Clive Davis, and I would venture to say that is the last thing Whitney would have wanted. So what, that she was initially 'marketed' to a mainstream (read: white) audience?? I'm sure she never regretted the million$s it made her... and I don't hear the likes of Mariah Carey complaining, either... WH was fighting her own demons from the get-go, imo, and Clive Davis is only guilty of loving her and looking out for her> or else why would he have supported her when she attempted to "comeback" on Oprah a few years ago... To me, the most beautiful song at her funeral was Alicia Keys' tribute. When AK threw back her head at the piano and practically screamed/begged at the universe to "SEND ME AN ANGEL!!!", I lost it. Let's just remember the joy WHs music brought us, and let her rest in peace. IMO, JMO, etc...
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very well said. Thanks!
 
Nova said:
Whitney Houston was included in the "memoriam" section, along with others. In fairness, it's not as though she made a lot of movies. Elizabeth Taylor closed the tribute section, and rightfully so.
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Sorry, but when you spell WH's name backwards or inside out, or upside
down, or passed through 13 dimensions in a multiverse Ruis set ... still
not great actress in her life on planet 617, which is a prime number.

Just the facts Maam.
 
Source: Whitney Houston's Death Will Be Ruled an Accident
Ken Baker and Natalie Finn, eonline
Seconds ago

Whitney Houston 's demise was a tragedy—and a tragic accident at that.

The pop icon's sudden death on Feb. 11 is expected to be officially ruled an accident, a source with knowledge of the ongoing investigation confirms exclusively to E! News.

And that appears to be just what those close to Houston suspected would happen...

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/entertainment-eonline/20120228/b297473/
 
Whitney Houston's heirs may not receive any money because of late singer's huge debt
One estimate claims it would take 5 million album sales to get out of the red

On Wednesday, music-industry blogger Wayne Rosso quoted a label executive “familiar with Sony’s accounting” who said the late singer’s estate probably won’t see any royalty checks from her record label “in our lifetime” — and maybe longer — thanks in part to the number of advances and loans she took from the $100 million deal she cut with Sony Music in 2001.

The blogger adds that the “last big loan was reportedly from Clive for $1.2 million, though everyone knows it came from Sony and not from Clive.”
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http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/w...ebt-article-1.1030954?localLinksEnabled=false
 
21merc7 said:
Whitney Houston's heirs may not receive any money because of late singer's huge debt
One estimate claims it would take 5 million album sales to get out of the red



http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/w...ebt-article-1.1030954?localLinksEnabled=false
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5 million albums sold at this time should be no problem.

Even if the heirs don't get a penny right now, (which I'm not sure I believe) the money will be rolling in for a very long time. Her heirs will end up being wealthy beyond their wildest dreams.
 
Funeral Home Owner Says She Knows Who Took Whitney Houston Coffin Photo

The woman who arranged Whitney Houston's lavish funeral says she knows who leaked the now-notorious picture to the National Enquirer.

INSIDE EDITION's Diane McInerney asked Whigham, "Has your investigation been able to determine who took that photograph?"

"Absolutely," replied Whigham.

"So you know 100% who took that photo?" said McInerney.

"Absolutely," Whigham stated.
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http://www.insideedition.com/news/7...ws-who-took-whitney-houston-coffin-photo.aspx
 
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