Never4GetCaylee
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Okay, this may sound harsh, but where in her actions has Cindy shown she is a grieving grandmother? All I have seen is her lying and covering up for her daughter. Did I miss something??
Yes, I know just what the OP means. At first when I was furious that CA was lying and thought it was to protect her from the DP, but when I watched her testimony again, I really began to wonder if wasn't trying to send ICA a message that now she knew ICA had done something to their dogs too. CA knew they could prove she was at work the day of the chloroform searches, I'm really thinking she might have been trying to get all that information she gave out there. If JB just asked if she searched chloroform and she just said no, that would have been the end of that. Instead she gives the weird detailed story about the sleepy dogs. Granted, ICA puts too much detail into her lies too, but I think CA was doing it on purpose. She seemed to stress they used packing tape too, not duct tape, on their pets...JB was the one suprised by that one.
It seems to me like CA might have put alot of things together that we don't know about it, other incidents and different things that only she would know. I think she might realize the safest place...safest for other people... for ICA to be is prison.
This is a high profile case, if Cindy is not charged with perjury what message does that send? I believe that she should be charged, the sentence I have no idea but she should be charged.
:hand: Not directed at you... but, I think that's a stupid reason not to charge her with anything because it could take years for an appeal or new trial, and at this point, we don't even know if there will be a mistrial. Not likely, at this point, since it's only days before the jury will get the case. The chances of a mistrial or Casey pleading out are getting very small...:twocents:I've heard the commentary that one reason Cindy won't be charged is because she might be needed in the future if there is a mistrial, appeal, etc. I am wondering, though, who in the heck could rely on her for any future truthful testimony? It is already a fact that she lied in court, charged or not, so who could afford to trust her as a witness? So I don't understand this argument. What is it that I'm missing? TIA
I have a feeling that Cindy on some level is well aware of her daughters capabilities and I believe also she is dropping hints that there is more here than meets the eye.
Who gave the detailed information about the first animal they ever buried? it was before Lee or KC was born so who told the DT?
Cindy knew the Gentiva dates would be investigated so the appearance of falling on her sword was calculated to have the effect it did.
I think there has never been room in KC's life for more than herself and her mother and anyone who interferes with that is in trouble be it George, the dogs or Caylee and I think this is Cindy's way out of that hell yet still be seemingly supportive.
Lastly, I don't blame her one bit I believe on some level Cindy was scared of what her daughter was capable of, and when I think of Lee mentioning "being like the last time" and we wondered what she had killed before (well I did) I'm going to make a guess, it was the dogs.
Thank you all for your insights Sleuthers. I've been ruminating about Cindy for days, months, years. She spawned a murderous daughter but she needs to be held accountable for her part, WHICH IS HUGE. She has coddled and enabled Casey for years, allowing her to "get away" with atrocious behavior that curtailed, might have prevented this tragedy.
HOW? I don't care if blood is thicker than water, Cindy knew what kind of a lying, cheating, deceitful con artist she bore and she did NOTHING to stop it.
Casey needed to have serious consequences early on and she had none(see the hundreds of checks she wrote out on her mother's accounts).
She was allowed to act the way she did without ever having to take responsibility for anything she ever did. Her family: Cindy, Lee and George created a safety net within which she was allowed to function.
And how pray tell, does a grandmother not worry herself silly when she doesn't see her granddaughter for 31 days? If one of my children told me that my grandchild was "with the Nanny", I would personally string her up by her toenails until she told me where she really was.
Cindy's saying "I love you" in the courtroom and calling ICA "sweetheart" in the jailhouse videos says it all.
Cindy must have to answer for her deceit, lies and purposeful attempt to obstruct due process.
HHBP makes a spectacle out of a kid who does something stupid,. but harmless.
Will he let this conniving woman get away with perjury because she is a "grieving grandmother and mother"? For the sake of all involved, I hope not.
Speaking of the pervasive lying in that family, it may have started with something as simple as telling little Casey, "Just tell the teacher you didn't do your homework because you got sick last night," even though Casey just plain didn't want to complete it. Practice makes perfect, and 22 years of lying seemed to work for Casey. Think of all the times in our day when we could lie, but don't. I taught my kids that it's better to be honest and take your lumps rather than lie. Miss a homework assignment? Tell the truth. The worst that could happen is a zero for the assignment. It's not the end of the world. What puzzles me is that Casey elevated her lies to being invulnerable to examination. How could she think thoase detectives would not actually check up on her lies, such as place of employment, etc.
Okay, this may sound harsh, but where in her actions has Cindy shown she is a grieving grandmother? All I have seen is her lying and covering up for her daughter. Did I miss something??
Excellent post!:goodpost::clap::clap::clap:She should be prosecuted immediately! Just because the murderer is her family member and the victim a family member that does not give her the license to be an accomplice in covering up a murder.
Those who are sympathetic toward CA should ask themselves this, if the defendant were a serial killer would it still be okay for them to help hide evidence and testify falsely to prevent justice from being served?
I have a feeling that Cindy on some level is well aware of her daughters capabilities and I believe also she is dropping hints that there is more here than meets the eye.
Who gave the detailed information about the first animal they ever buried? it was before Lee or KC was born so who told the DT?
Cindy knew the Gentiva dates would be investigated so the appearance of falling on her sword was calculated to have the effect it did.
I think there has never been room in KC's life for more than herself and her mother and anyone who interferes with that is in trouble be it George, the dogs or Caylee and I think this is Cindy's way out of that hell yet still be seemingly supportive.
Lastly, I don't blame her one bit I believe on some level Cindy was scared of what her daughter was capable of, and when I think of Lee mentioning "being like the last time" and we wondered what she had killed before (well I did) I'm going to make a guess, it was the dogs.
May I ask what charges can be brought against Cindy for having given birth to a child that murdered her child? Please? TIA (am not baiting, I really want to know what charges can be brought forth and don't intend to argue the point, just curious).
May I ask what charges can be brought against Cindy anthony for what could be seen as bad parenting? (really asking).
My only comment is then should we go after the parents/primary caregivers of every single murderer that has been convicted for murder?
Do I think she lied on the stand? Sure she did.
Do I *emotionally* think she should face some consequences? Sure.
Do I *intellectually* think that charges can be brought against her and won? Won...I'm talking about a trial by jury for perjury---do I think intellectually it can be won? Probably not. JMHO
I believe she should be prosecuted. Perjury was just the latest in a long list of crimes committed by her to save her daughter, which tells me she knew all along who killed Caylee and that Caylee was indeed dead. I think both CA and GA should be prosecuted.
I've been watching and listening to CA since this whole tragic murder was known. Watching CA on GVS, I knew immediately the toddler was dead and murdered by her mother. CA portrayed herself as a tireless, though wilting, steel magnolia. From the outset, she refused to answer questions about Casey, as did George early on, wanting only to say Caylee was MISSING.
I believe they knew when they toured the back yard what had happened and went into spin mode. The ladder, the gate...
Stonewalling the investigation under the guise that law enforcement was not doing their job, looking only at Casey, while they continued to stir the angry citizen pot with cries for Zenaida, without a care for what could have happened to the Zenaida (or her children) we saw or the countless others they practically pointed out to the press and what cities to look in.
GA went to LE and tried work a deal for Casey. He knew.
Cindy practically pee'd herself with glee as she turned over the wrong hairbrush to FBI. She knew.
They concocted the JBP story. They concocted the pool ladder story with the gate being open. They committed fraud on a sympathetic public, taking donations.
Both should be charged with perjury, misprision, tampering with evidence, witness tampering, lying to LE, fraud, whatever else you can throw at them that I am forgetting this morning.