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This reply was for LUCY OsoIf she was free why run to the woods? Why not the neighbors?
This reply was for LUCY OsoIf she was free why run to the woods? Why not the neighbors?
An unknown source told this to Radar Online. Though RO is allowed, some have discounted its credibility.There are a number of posts that reference Denise Closs being locked or barricaded in the bathroom. Admittedly I haven't read all the posts and was wondering where this information came from or what it's based on. It seems to be a part of some people's theories. Could someone clear that up for me? Thanks!
We’d need a lawyer to chime in here. I’m not sure what the law is there, as it’s evidence after all.
I want to hear it, but that’s me.
I have been meaning to ask this about Jayme's phone.
In this photo she has one in her hand:
Jayme Closs Archives - Wausau Pilot & Review
Can anyone make out what kind of phone it is?
Also, what is written on her shirt?
Some are led to believe that an unnamed FBI insider gave this account to the tabloid RadarOnline. Missing Jayme Closs Was Home When Abductor Shot Her Parents Dead, Source ClaimsThere are a number of posts that reference Denise Closs being locked or barricaded in the bathroom. Admittedly I haven't read all the posts and was wondering where this information came from or what it's based on. It seems to be a part of some people's theories. Could someone clear that up for me? Thanks!
Thank you KLM6! I've been wondering about that for awhile!An unknown source told this to Radar Online. Though RO is allowed, some have discounted its credibility.
I think it's at a double (full-size) mattress which is 53" wide vs. a twin at 39" wide. Based on height of deck railing and the woman in the video.
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I also question the accuracy of the neighbors' timeline of things. I am NOT casting any suspicion on them. I am just saying that in the middle of the night, it can be hard to be accurate on time. We don't know if the neighbors need glasses/contacts and if they actually put glasses on to look at the clock for instance.
I think back to where the neighbor said she couldn't sleep so she got up a half hour after hearing the shots (or so) and her dog was acting funny; she looked out the window and saw nothing (I linked the source to this on another post of mine and can go back and find it through my past posts if need be).
Ok, so she could have been asleep for shots and woke up too more shots?
That's interesting...I'd not seen that mattress pic. The one I saw was a yellow-ish/or gold color.
I'm not sure, maybe they took two mattresses out, or one was a box-spring(?).
Yes, the first video I saw had the yellow mattress too. When I went back to look at it again, that video had been replaced in the article so I tracked down this one and noticed the same thing. It's now blue, lol!Thank you, that does look bigger than a twin to me.
Ok, this is weird but I could have sworn the mattress was a yellow-gold color in previous screen shots. In that photo it looks blue to me. Is this some sort of blue-gold dress illusion or were there two mattresses removed?
I agree. Be wary of this source. The FBI source was also reported by the Daily Mail (also seem to be unreliable)Some are led to believe that an unnamed FBI insider gave this account to the tabloid RadarOnline. Missing Jayme Closs Was Home When Abductor Shot Her Parents Dead, Source Claims
IMO, while it certainly is possible, I personally do not believe the source of this information was anyone from the FBI and strongly recommend anyone take this account with large quantities of salt.
I guess it's possible, but not likely. How many people carry guns around in their car? I don't see him leaving the room and going into Jayme's room without her dad noticing. I'm sure she would have been asleep that late on a school night. LE has asked anyone to come forward if they know of any misunderstanding or problem the family may have had with anyone. If he had a friend over, he would likely have a wife or someone who knows him. If he was a volatile type person I would think someone would have suspected him by now. And I think the chances of a friend, who would be someone James knew enough to trust, suddenly becoming enraged enough with no prior signs of anger problems, and murdering both James and Denise and abducting their child, is highly unlikely.In my theory, the perp was told to leave because of an argument, or he got caught doing something to Jayme. He goes to his car, gets gun, kicks in the door and kills her parents, takes her. IMO
Most of the time the 911 calls are used at trial for a multitude of reasons (it gives a witness’ present sense impression of the situation, it may be only record of a deceased witness’ accounting of the situation, etc.)
However, here we have a 911 call where seemingly very little can be heard by natural ears and the recording has been sent for forensic cleaning and/or sound layering to extract more info from it.
Whether that’ll be admissible depends upon the methodology used (is it an industry-wide accepted method?) and the expert who did it (what is their skill, knowledge, education, experience and training in this area to ensure accuracy?)
It will also depend on whether they’re still able to extract anything. There may be no sense in playing it and otherwise they may just get the 911 dispatcher on the stand to testify what she knows (e.g., she received a call at ___ time and didn’t hear anything and dispatched ___ officer to the scene).
Thank you, that does look bigger than a twin to me.
Ok, this is weird but I could have sworn the mattress was a yellow-gold color in previous screen shots. In that photo it looks blue to me. Is this some sort of blue-gold dress illusion or were there two mattresses removed?
Here is Rainynights post and screenshot of the mattress:Yes, the first video I saw had the yellow mattress too. When I went back to look at it again, that video had been replaced in the article so I tracked down this one and noticed the same thing. It's now blue, lol!
Thank you for finding this. So there were definitely two mattresses removed. Do they look the same size to you?Here is Rainynights post and screenshot of the mattress:
AMBER ALERT - WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #12
I can see something blue under the yellow so I think this was two mattresses or else a mismatched set. The link the above came from seems to have changed the video they were using but I know I saw it in the video before.
I have been meaning to ask this about Jayme's phone.
In this photo she has one in her hand:
Jayme Closs Archives - Wausau Pilot & Review
Can anyone make out what kind of phone it is?
Also, what is written on her shirt?
Thank you for finding this. So there were definitely two mattresses removed. Do they look the same size to you?
Thank you, I was looking for this video. I used the word “twin” based on someone else’s post. I agree that it is smaller than a queen.I think it's at a double (full-size) mattress which is 53" wide vs. a twin at 39" wide. Based on height of deck railing and the woman in the video.
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I'm not sure if this news article was posted as I was off-line for a couple of days and am still catching up. A long-time co-worker describes DC and JC. Here is the site:
Hundreds turn out to remember parents of missing Wisconsin teen Jayme Closs