AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #16

[oceanblueeyes]

There has to be a motivating factoring for murdering 2 hard working adults and taking their child. I can only think the motivating factor was to take Jayme and the parents would know who did it so they had to die.

Possibly.

However victims have been murdered where the suspect did not know any of their victims or even the children they had abducted.

Tragically it seems to happen more and more often that even victims who did not know the prepetrator are still murdered.

The value of human life seems to matter little or not at all to many criminals nowadays. It's all about protecting themselves no matter what it takes.

It seems more and more suspects are murdering totally innocent people they dont even know imo it's about not leaving anyone alive to tell anyone especially the police what happened.

Murdered victims are rendered voiceless leaving them unable to even decribe the one who invaded their home doing what they did..not only to them but making them unable to give a description of who kidnapped their child or children.

Many criminals believe that dead men or women tell no tales. Some make very sure that is the case whether they are strangers to the victim or not. It doesnt seem to matter.

Imo

 

[PommyMommy]

Barron County Sheriff's Department
These are three images of the two vehicles of interest that we determined were in the area of the Closs home at the time of the incident regarding the disappearance of missing and endangered 13 year old Jayme Closs. Again, these are ONLY vehicles of interest.

If anyone sees or has seen either of these vehicles in or around Barron County over the past two weeks they are asked to call our tip line 1-855-744-3879 with the time they observed it, location observed and plate number. Again we are only taking tips based on the below information, no other makes or models will be followed up on.

Sheriff Fitzgerald

Nowhere have police stated they are no longer looking for these vehicles.​

 

[Mistermagoo]

Barron County Sheriff's Department
These are three images of the two vehicles of interest that we determined were in the area of the Closs home at the time of the incident regarding the disappearance of missing and endangered 13 year old Jayme Closs. Again, these are ONLY vehicles of interest.

If anyone sees or has seen either of these vehicles in or around Barron County over the past two weeks they are asked to call our tip line 1-855-744-3879 with the time they observed it, location observed and plate number. Again we are only taking tips based on the below information, no other makes or models will be followed up on.

Sheriff Fitzgerald

Nowhere have police stated they are no longer looking for these vehicles.​

Is there a reason that they say only the past 2 weeks? I saw another bulletin that stated Between Oct 8th until present. Most likely insignificant but why would there be any specific time begin date?

 

[MsBetsy]

I agree with this. The longer Jayme is missing the more i think LE need to let out more information about her. They obviously won't tell us everything but time is ticking on now and they need the public's help.

I think they did tell us about her through the family at the last PC. I don't think they knew what she was wearing, although I am guessing pajamas. But we don't know. The family may not have known all the jackets or sweatshirts she may have. I am guessing they found the denim jacket at home that she was wearing that day. They are still encouraging tips from the public. I'm sure everyone in that community is keeping their eyes open. But she could be anywhere. Unfortunately the more time that goes by the less chance of her being found alive. Jmo

 

[margarita25]

KJ seems to be the John Mark Karr of this case. An unusual character but unconnected.

I thought the same thing.

 

[MsBetsy]

Is there a reason that they say only the past 2 weeks? I saw another bulletin that stated Between Oct 8th until present. Most likely insignificant but why would there be any specific time begin date?

Maybe they spotted those particular cars on other days, via the cameras. Or maybe they think the cars are not local and have reason to believe they were in the area right before and after the day of the murder. Hard to tell. Jmo

 

[mks762]

I am so baffled by this case. I'm stuck and have no idea what happened here. There isn't a single thing I've completely discounted as being a possibility.
One question for those of you who think kidnapping Jayme was NOT the motivation for this rampage, what's your reasoning why the murderer didn't kill her and instead took her?? I would think that would be a lot of trouble to kidnap a 13 year old rather than kill her if that wasn't your original plan. Like I said, I'm open to EVERY situation here, but would just like to hear some reasoning/ideas from others

 

[PommyMommy]

Is there a reason that they say only the past 2 weeks? I saw another bulletin that stated Between Oct 8th until present. Most likely insignificant but why would there be any specific time begin date?

I'm sure there is a reason, but I don't know what it is. The post is dated October 22, so yes, we can assume they want to know if anyone has seen these vehicles beginning October 8. MOO

 

[margarita25]

I am so baffled by this case. I'm stuck and have no idea what happened here. There isn't a single thing I've completely discounted as being a possibility.
One question for those of you who think kidnapping Jayme was NOT the motivation for this rampage, what's your reasoning why the murderer didn't kill her and instead took her?? I would think that would be a lot of trouble to kidnap a 13 year old rather than kill her if that wasn't your original plan. Like I said, I'm open to EVERY situation here, but would just like to hear some reasoning/ideas from others

I haven’t decided for sure that Jayme was the intended target. I think it could go both ways. But my thoughts are that if LE was on the way and they knew this, a hostage might be secured for a clean getaway.

This is just one thought/theory imo.

 

[PommyMommy]

'Light the way home': Barron County residents come together to support Jayme Closs
Emitting a soft glow, the homemade lanterns are inspired by one goal: Lighting the way home for Jayme Closs.

From there, the lanterns grew into a way to support the Closs family. Embossed with a green ribbon and the hash tag "#findJayme," they can be purchased for $20 and shipped anywhere in the United States for an additional $7. Brion's Smokehouse Deli in Cameron is helping to sell them.

And all profits go to the Closses. Though the money can't help Jayme right now, Salmonson said, it will when she comes home. "I think it’s really important just for people to feel like they’re doing something to help," MS said.

The lanterns are just one example of how residents of Barron County and beyond have come together in recent weeks. Green bracelets that say "Find Jayme Closs" are available for $5 in multiple locations, including the deli. A Facebook fundraiser for the family has received nearly $15,000.

Sterling Bank, which has locations in Barron, Rice Lake, Chetek and Luck, has also set up a fund for Jayme. The money is intended for Jayme's use. In the event she doesn't return, it will be donated to a nonprofit. Donations for that fund can be sent to the bank.

 

[caseface]

I'm sure there is a reason, but I don't know what it is. The post is dated October 22, so yes, we can assume they want to know if anyone has seen these vehicles beginning October 8. MOO

October 8 is exactly one week prior to the discovery of the scene, Oct. 15. Oct. 22 is exactly one week following Oct. 15. From Oct. 22 back to Oct. 8 is exactly two weeks. Unfortunately, there may be no significance to this and more evidence that the investigation is still highly generalized. I may be missing something here though or have my dates wrong. Such a discovery, an odd date or time period, is likely good news, a narrowing is taking place.

 

[Jaded_musician]

The one thing that seems clear is that LE is very specific about things they want tips about and things they don't want tips about. They have specific dates, people they have cleared, only those 2 vehicles and no others.

There is a sequence of events they must be aware of that they are following that we just don't know.

 

[retiredrickyinCO]

Will this case ever be solved I wonder?

Will Jayme ever be found?

I have set a deadline of 6 months before I will start to have any reservations at all of this ever being solved. Don't ask me how I came up with that time probably I figured they might need more than 3 months or maybe just because it is an even number. But our message at church on Sunday was about patience, one of the fruits of the Spirit so that is what I am practicing. I just keep believing it will be solved a lot sooner and that is what I am hoping/praying for. I just keep going back on all the thoughts that the perp(s) was there for awhile, like more than 5 minutes and I just have to believe they left some evidence, whatever kind, that will lead LE to them. MOO

 

[MsBetsy]

Possibly.

However victims have been murdered where the suspect did not know any of their victims or even the children they had abducted.

Tragically it seems to happen more and more often that even victims who did not know the prepetrator are still murdered.

The value of human life seems to matter little or not at all to many criminals nowadays. It's all about protecting themselves no matter what it takes.

It seems more and more suspects are murdering totally innocent people they dont even know imo it's about not leaving anyone alive to tell anyone especially the police what happened.

Murdered victims are rendered voiceless leaving them unable to even decribe the one who invaded their home doing what they did..not only to them but making them unable to give a description of who kidnapped their child or children.

Many criminals believe that dead men or women tell no tales. Some make very sure that is the case whether they are strangers to the victim or not. It doesnt seem to matter.

Imo

Yes, its frightening to think of these kinds of criminals. But on a positive note, most pathologists will say the dead do tell a story. It is with their help that many families can ensure their loved ones will get justice. Jmo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Barron County Sheriff's Department
These are three images of the two vehicles of interest that we determined were in the area of the Closs home at the time of the incident regarding the disappearance of missing and endangered 13 year old Jayme Closs. Again, these are ONLY vehicles of interest.

If anyone sees or has seen either of these vehicles in or around Barron County over the past two weeks they are asked to call our tip line 1-855-744-3879 with the time they observed it, location observed and plate number. Again we are only taking tips based on the below information, no other makes or models will be followed up on.

Sheriff Fitzgerald

Nowhere have police stated they are no longer looking for these vehicles.​

Thank you PommyMommy..

While the police usually say these are only vehicles of interest it usually turns out they believe one or both vehicles are involved. They are trying not to spook them.

However it is very interesting that neither of the drivers have contacted police.

This case has been published statewide and all across the country so these drivers would have to live in a cave not to know about these two vehicles of interest. I ceratainly dont believe either driver lives in a cave do you?

With no one coming forward willing admitting it's their vehicles and they were in the area at the very same time of the murders and kidnapping is confirming to the investigators they are on the right track imo.

Jmo

 

[ReckoningDay]

I realize the creeper guy has been "cleared"...but I can't help but think of other cases where the perp was originally cleared. He is a step beyond just a quirky cross-dresser. We are always told that LE watches for people who insert themselves into cases (helping search, calling in a zillion "tips" etc) but this guy inserted himself WAY in. I hope they keep a close eye on him.

 

[Mistermagoo]

2 vehicles sought in connection with missing Wisconsin teen - Wausau Pilot & Review
Here is where I seen Oct 8th mentioned as start date.
At this point there really isn't much to go on that hasn't been discussed 1,000 times already, so i'm just trying to piece together what LE knows, or has a pretty good idea about.
Because there isn't massive organized searches going on every day with the community it makes me believe they are pretty sure she is not anywhere near the home.
The Nationwide billboards make me believe they think she can be anywhere, Which make the vehicle descriptions all that more important.

 

[kelizabethp]

I am so baffled by this case. I'm stuck and have no idea what happened here. There isn't a single thing I've completely discounted as being a possibility.
One question for those of you who think kidnapping Jayme was NOT the motivation for this rampage, what's your reasoning why the murderer didn't kill her and instead took her?? I would think that would be a lot of trouble to kidnap a 13 year old rather than kill her if that wasn't your original plan. Like I said, I'm open to EVERY situation here, but would just like to hear some reasoning/ideas from others

I am really hoping they didn't realize a child would be in the home, maybe Jayme was found in her bedroom hiding and they thought *advertiser censored*, DC just made a 911 call, I'm not prepared to murder a child right now- kid you're coming with me until I figure out what to do next. I don't think she had anything to do with this in any way shape or form.

 

[margarita25]

At the time of his August arrest he was wearing the dress of a 16-year old girl. So, he wasn't necessarily taking it to Jayme. He just has a fetish.

Fine if he has a fetish but he needs to go buy his own damn underwear and dresses. Not break into homes and steal minors (or anyone’s) clothing.

Repulsed beyond words.

Anyway, since he’s not a suspect, moving on but I hadn’t had a chance to weigh in yet so those are my thoughts.

 

[Quill]

Thank you PommyMommy..

While the police usually say these are only vehicles of interest it usually turns out they believe one or both vehicles are involved. They are trying not to spook them.

However it is very interesting that neither of the drivers have contacted police.

This case has been published statewide and all across the country so these drivers would have to live in a cave not to know about these two vehicles of interest. I ceratainly dont believe either driver lives in a cave do you?

With no one coming forward willing admitting it's their vehicles and they were in the area at the very same time of the murders and kidnapping is confirming to the investigators they are on the right track imo.

Jmo

I like the way you think.