AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #30

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That is bizarre neighborhood... and u find everything....
closs didn’t talk to any neighbors ??
closs always took care of neighbors daughter ??

Cops bust meth house 4 doors down looking for jayme ??

House that just sold looked like abandon house 18 months ago...

Just a weird layout I guess.. no subdivision...
Did meth house lead to arrest ... homeowner in jail. Woulda thought that could be problematic neighbor... and avenue to pursue.. how do u deal meth.. see 10 cop cars and not hide your meth..
Smrekar hear gunshots... back to bed... meth dealer unfazed by double homicide and 10 cops...They are all on Xanax
 
Has anyone seen reports of the cops setting up road blocks near the home the day after the murder and checking cars?
No I don't specifically recall that, but they announced a major criminal activity was discovered the next day (I believe) but was stated 'unrelated to the Closs murders'. I did notice their arrests and bookings for drugs and related crimes went up exponentially after these murders.
 
No I don't specifically recall that, but they announced a major criminal activity was discovered the next day (I believe) but was stated 'unrelated to the Closs murders'. I did notice their arrests and bookings for drugs and related crimes went up exponentially after these murders.
I saw some of the locals mentioned it on one of the sheriffs fb posts. I hadn't heard about it anywhere else.
 
That is bizarre neighborhood... and u find everything....
closs didn’t talk to any neighbors ??
closs always took care of neighbors daughter ??

Cops bust meth house 4 doors down looking for jayme ??

House that just sold looked like abandon house 18 months ago...

Just a weird layout I guess.. no subdivision...
Did meth house lead to arrest ... homeowner in jail. Woulda thought that could be problematic neighbor... and avenue to pursue.. how do u deal meth.. see 10 cop cars and not hide your meth..
Smrekar hear gunshots... back to bed... meth dealer unfazed by double homicide and 10 cops...They are all on Xanax
This has been one of the most elusive cases as far as lack of information released by LE period in any I've followed on WS. I first thought it was def a targeted attack by random perv strictly for Jayme, now I'm firmly planted in the park of targeted by someone known to the Closs family somehow saving Jayme from a perceived plight.

I don't think the perp(s) were military precise, smart, planned to the 9's and super stealthy.... I think they were familiarly lucky. They knew the family, schedules and maybe even the general layout of the home. They wanted Jayme and Mom & Dad were in the way. JMHO

ETA: Clarification
 
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I’ve been looking back on previous threads- is there anything that indicates that Jayme was actually there when her parents were killed or is there a possibility that she disappeared earlier (after family gathering)?
 
I’ve been looking back on previous threads- is there anything that indicates that Jayme was actually there when her parents were killed or is there a possibility that she disappeared earlier (after family gathering)?
According to early interviews with sheriff, Jayme was at the home at the time of murders. This was determined somehow from 911 call and some other evidence. I still think Jayme was the one that made the call from mom’s phone and they know it.
 
Nearly every known fact and then some have been looked at in a gazillion different ways, so I started looking around beyond the known parameters of this crime. I hope what I am going to say passes muster of the admins as I know the rules of TOS and do not mean to exceed them. I have looked around at surrounding towns/counties etc. and have found several folks in the age range of 17 to 28 who have the background of escalating petty crimes, have connections to red cars, and this has given me great satisfaction that LE has someone on their radar and they are putting a case together. The recent discussion on where and why the searches were made and the looking west and north supported my thoughts so I guess greater patience on my part is the missing ingredient. Pray for Jayme.
 
I dropped “random”from my theories when LE said a while back that nothing was stolen, not even small visible items such as wallet, credit cards or jewelry. Sounds like the perp did not even go far enough into the house to look for valuables. Even in senselessly violent home invasions, theft is usually a part of the crime, if not the motive in the first place.

Also, Denise being suggested as the target makes the least amount of sense to me, the way it seems to have played out. If so, why kill her and take Jayme? Why not take her, and kill Jayme, if Denise was the target? Jmo this had to be about Jayme.

Jmo
 
I hope I live long enough to see the resolution of this case.
I am well into the 2nd half of my expected lifetime, but I am losing hope that this will be solved within the year that it happened. I am envisioning it going on for years and years until it is mostly forgotten, only to learn that Jayme has been found in her 40’s somewhere, thru a DNA match, living under a different name of course, with children and a career, and a relatively happy life. That would be my best hope at this point. I have given up the seeking justice part. Whoever did this seems to have gotten away with it lock, stick and barrel.

We had the best of the best in LE on this case at the beginning, some 200+ strong. And now they are all gone, packed up and went on to other cases that maybe have a better chance of being solved. The only way I can figure Sherrif FitzG can present a positive demeanor to us is that he comes forward so infrequently these days, he finds a way to muster up some encouragement to the public in a meaningless statement, then goes back underground again to try to solve an impossible case. It’s terrible and absurd, and it feels.ike it is going the way of the Kyron case. Except there we had some characters to examine, though that got us no closer to finding Kyron than we were in 2009. I hate this.
 
I have never followed other cases on here but I keep seeing remarks on how odd this one is. I agree. One could not plan nor make such things up.

One thing that may mean nothing but still bothers me is Jayme's alert states she has green eyes. Her aunt in one interview, I cannot remember which one, stated that they are amber and sometimes look blue. Her pictures as well are all over the place, in the originals she looks like a young, maybe a bit awkyard yet of a teen; and now we have seen several where she looks like a poised young lady older than the original pictures. Her eye color in the pictures as well sometimes looks blue, and sometimes does not, etc. I am not saying this means anything important, it is just odd that in one release they are green and yet a family member said otherwise.

A few weeks ago I had occasion to drive Highway 8 through Barron. I paid very close attention. I found it extremely strange there is not one single billboard or sign of any kind from the MN Taylor Falls border through Barron. Barron has literally dozens of Chris Kroeze signs (contestant on The Voice) understandably, he did great(!), but basically none of Jayme. One City office had something about her on their sign and one house had a tree and a "hope" sign. Throughout the entire stretch of Highway 8 and the main drag. Yet Kroeze signs were everywhere as were Barron Bear signs even more present than anything about Jayme. The two things I saw about Jayme were negligible for the length of Barron and not a picture nor a detail. I stopped at one gas station, used the restroom and shopped for a snack and again noticed not one thing about her. I cannot say there may not have been something somewhere, what I am saying is I shopped the gas station and used the restroom as 90 percent of people would, without LOOKING for anything about her, and never noticed a thing. Could there be something somewhere? Sure, but nothing that would stand out to someone entering the station or shopping in it. Not to me anyhow.

There are billboards in other states but not a one from the MN border nor in her own area towns (not the ones I was in anyhow). Again, I am talking the main streets which I would think is where you would want such signs. Cameron was the same. I was not on Highway 53 so I cannot comment on that but I would doubt it as if Highway 8 has nothing why would 53? They searched along 8.

Nothing by Jennie-O either despite having a several block presence and a fence where something could be hung.

I allow for people could be scared and not want to call attention to themselves but I do NOT understand why there wouldn't be a ton of businesses doing so and at least a billboard. I do not know what is the norm in a missing case but I find it somewhat odd.

Then for odd things we have a panty thief who just happens to break in and the place happens to be under camera. What are the odds? Maybe he has no connection but we do know he skulks around at that time of night and stalks. Based on his arrests.

We have cars that mattered that now seem not to and yet they are still on posters as if they matter, etc. It has never been said definitively they do not matter, just more of a "not the focus" sort of right now.

A remark that stands out to me to this day is the sheriff saying or seeming to be surprised they did not find a weapon/gun. Why would they expect to??

I know people in the area and they are not talking about this case. I was told it is not in the papers and it is quiet and off of many people's radar as there is nothing about it in the local papers, etc. It was remarked to me the tree lighting was recently in the paper but other than that, there has been nothing. I can't say people do not talk privately about it in their homes or that some do elsewhere s well but I found no evidence of it, just the opposite when I asked a few close to me.

I also for the first time came by the house and tried to watch for it to see if I felt it would be easily picked or targeted. I can only say it is easily visible from the road now but it wouldn't have been in October and one is past it before you register you see it. I mean maybe at 1 a.m. you could be driving slowly to watch for it but in normal traffic that is not an option imo.

I was also struck by the fact that, even though we know it is just about a mile, I felt in no time flat I was in the Barron City Limits. It seems like a poor choice of a home to target randomly with no knowledge unless you are just stupid or methed up or something. When I returned by the same route I felt the same although the house seemed a bit further out but still, I just do not see it being randomly selected IF you knew two police agencies were less than four miles away.

I could and many others could as well add many more odd things that just do not make sense nor add up. I am in no way questioning LE or the victims, etc., I just cannot figure out the reasons. I imagine some of these things are tactics or they have a good idea of who did it. I sure hope so. The alternatives one can think of are not good ones.

I also find the silence about the family's activities even the weekend prior to possibly be significant. And it has been especially silent with regard to Jim.

Another oddity in this case is the neighbor's account. Either they are wrong or LE is. I also wonder where they were until 11:30 p.m. Again, this is not directed at them I am just thinking like a middle aged person. It is a Sunday night almost to Monday. The casino and perhaps a few bars would be open. While there may be some middle aged die hard bar flies, I think the majority have turned to being more daytime, early afternoon or early evening types. Perhaps they were at a family member's home for a party? I thought of that but others would most likely have jobs or children with school to attend the next day and such things would not go late on a Sunday. Now the casino would be a different story. One gets into a casino and forgets the time or keeps gambling. And if one did not have to work it would not be a big deal.

I have wondered if the neighbors won a big pot or even upset someone and they were followed at a distance. They see them signal and turn into a driveway and the ones following get the wrong driveway, the Closses.

I have no way of knowing this is even likely, just a thought. The neighbors could have been anywhere even coming from Wal-Mart in Rice Lake. It just seems unlikely and seems a late hour for a Sunday night.

My very first instinct when this case was in the news was meth heads and a possibly wrong residence. And then there was an arrest in the neighborhood and I still think it is possible.

However, like everyone, I entertain them all. Parents the target, Jayme the target, random, targeted, etc.

For some reason and I am unsure why, I feel the parents were the target (or one of them).

Just rambling and thought maybe some of it would give some food for thought. I have not been on here in awhile but have now caught up and read all posts.
 
I have never followed other cases on here but I keep seeing remarks on how odd this one is. I agree. One could not plan nor make such things up.

One thing that may mean nothing but still bothers me is Jayme's alert states she has green eyes. Her aunt in one interview, I cannot remember which one, stated that they are amber and sometimes look blue. Her pictures as well are all over the place, in the originals she looks like a young, maybe a bit awkyard yet of a teen; and now we have seen several where she looks like a poised young lady older than the original pictures. Her eye color in the pictures as well sometimes looks blue, and sometimes does not, etc. I am not saying this means anything important, it is just odd that in one release they are green and yet a family member said otherwise.

A few weeks ago I had occasion to drive Highway 8 through Barron. I paid very close attention. I found it extremely strange there is not one single billboard or sign of any kind from the MN Taylor Falls border through Barron. Barron has literally dozens of Chris Kroeze signs (contestant on The Voice) understandably, he did great(!), but basically none of Jayme. One City office had something about her on their sign and one house had a tree and a "hope" sign. Throughout the entire stretch of Highway 8 and the main drag. Yet Kroeze signs were everywhere as were Barron Bear signs even more present than anything about Jayme. The two things I saw about Jayme were negligible for the length of Barron and not a picture nor a detail. I stopped at one gas station, used the restroom and shopped for a snack and again noticed not one thing about her. I cannot say there may not have been something somewhere, what I am saying is I shopped the gas station and used the restroom as 90 percent of people would, without LOOKING for anything about her, and never noticed a thing. Could there be something somewhere? Sure, but nothing that would stand out to someone entering the station or shopping in it. Not to me anyhow.

There are billboards in other states but not a one from the MN border nor in her own area towns (not the ones I was in anyhow). Again, I am talking the main streets which I would think is where you would want such signs. Cameron was the same. I was not on Highway 53 so I cannot comment on that but I would doubt it as if Highway 8 has nothing why would 53? They searched along 8.

Nothing by Jennie-O either despite having a several block presence and a fence where something could be hung.

I allow for people could be scared and not want to call attention to themselves but I do NOT understand why there wouldn't be a ton of businesses doing so and at least a billboard. I do not know what is the norm in a missing case but I find it somewhat odd.

Then for odd things we have a panty thief who just happens to break in and the place happens to be under camera. What are the odds? Maybe he has no connection but we do know he skulks around at that time of night and stalks. Based on his arrests.

We have cars that mattered that now seem not to and yet they are still on posters as if they matter, etc. It has never been said definitively they do not matter, just more of a "not the focus" sort of right now.

A remark that stands out to me to this day is the sheriff saying or seeming to be surprised they did not find a weapon/gun. Why would they expect to??

I know people in the area and they are not talking about this case. I was told it is not in the papers and it is quiet and off of many people's radar as there is nothing about it in the local papers, etc. It was remarked to me the tree lighting was recently in the paper but other than that, there has been nothing. I can't say people do not talk privately about it in their homes or that some do elsewhere s well but I found no evidence of it, just the opposite when I asked a few close to me.

I also for the first time came by the house and tried to watch for it to see if I felt it would be easily picked or targeted. I can only say it is easily visible from the road now but it wouldn't have been in October and one is past it before you register you see it. I mean maybe at 1 a.m. you could be driving slowly to watch for it but in normal traffic that is not an option imo.

I was also struck by the fact that, even though we know it is just about a mile, I felt in no time flat I was in the Barron City Limits. It seems like a poor choice of a home to target randomly with no knowledge unless you are just stupid or methed up or something. When I returned by the same route I felt the same although the house seemed a bit further out but still, I just do not see it being randomly selected IF you knew two police agencies were less than four miles away.

I could and many others could as well add many more odd things that just do not make sense nor add up. I am in no way questioning LE or the victims, etc., I just cannot figure out the reasons. I imagine some of these things are tactics or they have a good idea of who did it. I sure hope so. The alternatives one can think of are not good ones.

I also find the silence about the family's activities even the weekend prior to possibly be significant. And it has been especially silent with regard to Jim.

Another oddity in this case is the neighbor's account. Either they are wrong or LE is. I also wonder where they were until 11:30 p.m. Again, this is not directed at them I am just thinking like a middle aged person. It is a Sunday night almost to Monday. The casino and perhaps a few bars would be open. While there may be some middle aged die hard bar flies, I think the majority have turned to being more daytime, early afternoon or early evening types. Perhaps they were at a family member's home for a party? I thought of that but others would most likely have jobs or children with school to attend the next day and such things would not go late on a Sunday. Now the casino would be a different story. One gets into a casino and forgets the time or keeps gambling. And if one did not have to work it would not be a big deal.

I have wondered if the neighbors won a big pot or even upset someone and they were followed at a distance. They see them signal and turn into a driveway and the ones following get the wrong driveway, the Closses.

I have no way of knowing this is even likely, just a thought. The neighbors could have been anywhere even coming from Wal-Mart in Rice Lake. It just seems unlikely and seems a late hour for a Sunday night.

My very first instinct when this case was in the news was meth heads and a possibly wrong residence. And then there was an arrest in the neighborhood and I still think it is possible.

However, like everyone, I entertain them all. Parents the target, Jayme the target, random, targeted, etc.

For some reason and I am unsure why, I feel the parents were the target (or one of them).

Just rambling and thought maybe some of it would give some food for thought. I have not been on here in awhile but have now caught up and read all posts.

Good post -- thanks for all your observations.
 
File this under, "We've been here before..."

Still thinking why it was necessary to kill both parents to get Jayme vs. other opportunities to kidnap her, assuming Jayme was the target. It would appear the killer was placing himself in more danger than necessary since he must have known from cars present that James and Denise were home. Why take on three people when you only need to confront one person?

It seems like, "I'm going to kill you and take your daughter." Hopefully LE's investigation will go back years and years. IMO the connection is not something that recently happened.
 
I have never followed other cases on here but I keep seeing remarks on how odd this one is. I agree. One could not plan nor make such things up.

One thing that may mean nothing but still bothers me is Jayme's alert states she has green eyes. Her aunt in one interview, I cannot remember which one, stated that they are amber and sometimes look blue. Her pictures as well are all over the place, in the originals she looks like a young, maybe a bit awkyard yet of a teen; and now we have seen several where she looks like a poised young lady older than the original pictures. Her eye color in the pictures as well sometimes looks blue, and sometimes does not, etc. I am not saying this means anything important, it is just odd that in one release they are green and yet a family member said otherwise.

A few weeks ago I had occasion to drive Highway 8 through Barron. I paid very close attention. I found it extremely strange there is not one single billboard or sign of any kind from the MN Taylor Falls border through Barron. Barron has literally dozens of Chris Kroeze signs (contestant on The Voice) understandably, he did great(!), but basically none of Jayme. One City office had something about her on their sign and one house had a tree and a "hope" sign. Throughout the entire stretch of Highway 8 and the main drag. Yet Kroeze signs were everywhere as were Barron Bear signs even more present than anything about Jayme. The two things I saw about Jayme were negligible for the length of Barron and not a picture nor a detail. I stopped at one gas station, used the restroom and shopped for a snack and again noticed not one thing about her. I cannot say there may not have been something somewhere, what I am saying is I shopped the gas station and used the restroom as 90 percent of people would, without LOOKING for anything about her, and never noticed a thing. Could there be something somewhere? Sure, but nothing that would stand out to someone entering the station or shopping in it. Not to me anyhow.

There are billboards in other states but not a one from the MN border nor in her own area towns (not the ones I was in anyhow). Again, I am talking the main streets which I would think is where you would want such signs. Cameron was the same. I was not on Highway 53 so I cannot comment on that but I would doubt it as if Highway 8 has nothing why would 53? They searched along 8.

Nothing by Jennie-O either despite having a several block presence and a fence where something could be hung.

I allow for people could be scared and not want to call attention to themselves but I do NOT understand why there wouldn't be a ton of businesses doing so and at least a billboard. I do not know what is the norm in a missing case but I find it somewhat odd.

Then for odd things we have a panty thief who just happens to break in and the place happens to be under camera. What are the odds? Maybe he has no connection but we do know he skulks around at that time of night and stalks. Based on his arrests.

We have cars that mattered that now seem not to and yet they are still on posters as if they matter, etc. It has never been said definitively they do not matter, just more of a "not the focus" sort of right now.

A remark that stands out to me to this day is the sheriff saying or seeming to be surprised they did not find a weapon/gun. Why would they expect to??

I know people in the area and they are not talking about this case. I was told it is not in the papers and it is quiet and off of many people's radar as there is nothing about it in the local papers, etc. It was remarked to me the tree lighting was recently in the paper but other than that, there has been nothing. I can't say people do not talk privately about it in their homes or that some do elsewhere s well but I found no evidence of it, just the opposite when I asked a few close to me.

I also for the first time came by the house and tried to watch for it to see if I felt it would be easily picked or targeted. I can only say it is easily visible from the road now but it wouldn't have been in October and one is past it before you register you see it. I mean maybe at 1 a.m. you could be driving slowly to watch for it but in normal traffic that is not an option imo.

I was also struck by the fact that, even though we know it is just about a mile, I felt in no time flat I was in the Barron City Limits. It seems like a poor choice of a home to target randomly with no knowledge unless you are just stupid or methed up or something. When I returned by the same route I felt the same although the house seemed a bit further out but still, I just do not see it being randomly selected IF you knew two police agencies were less than four miles away.

I could and many others could as well add many more odd things that just do not make sense nor add up. I am in no way questioning LE or the victims, etc., I just cannot figure out the reasons. I imagine some of these things are tactics or they have a good idea of who did it. I sure hope so. The alternatives one can think of are not good ones.

I also find the silence about the family's activities even the weekend prior to possibly be significant. And it has been especially silent with regard to Jim.

Another oddity in this case is the neighbor's account. Either they are wrong or LE is. I also wonder where they were until 11:30 p.m. Again, this is not directed at them I am just thinking like a middle aged person. It is a Sunday night almost to Monday. The casino and perhaps a few bars would be open. While there may be some middle aged die hard bar flies, I think the majority have turned to being more daytime, early afternoon or early evening types. Perhaps they were at a family member's home for a party? I thought of that but others would most likely have jobs or children with school to attend the next day and such things would not go late on a Sunday. Now the casino would be a different story. One gets into a casino and forgets the time or keeps gambling. And if one did not have to work it would not be a big deal.

I have wondered if the neighbors won a big pot or even upset someone and they were followed at a distance. They see them signal and turn into a driveway and the ones following get the wrong driveway, the Closses.

I have no way of knowing this is even likely, just a thought. The neighbors could have been anywhere even coming from Wal-Mart in Rice Lake. It just seems unlikely and seems a late hour for a Sunday night.

My very first instinct when this case was in the news was meth heads and a possibly wrong residence. And then there was an arrest in the neighborhood and I still think it is possible.

However, like everyone, I entertain them all. Parents the target, Jayme the target, random, targeted, etc.

For some reason and I am unsure why, I feel the parents were the target (or one of them).

Just rambling and thought maybe some of it would give some food for thought. I have not been on here in awhile but have now caught up and read all posts.
Thanks for the great post chili! This case is the reason i joined websleuths so i haven’t followed any other threads (except sporadically on Kelsey Berreth) either. You make very good points.
 
Thanks for the great post chili! This case is the reason i joined websleuths so i haven’t followed any other threads (except sporadically on Kelsey Berreth) either. You make very good points.

I am sure I will follow other cases now--I found this site due to this case so it is the first I have followed. I hope my points are relevant lol, just food for thought. Thanks!
 
I have never followed other cases on here but I keep seeing remarks on how odd this one is. I agree. One could not plan nor make such things up.

One thing that may mean nothing but still bothers me is Jayme's alert states she has green eyes. Her aunt in one interview, I cannot remember which one, stated that they are amber and sometimes look blue. Her pictures as well are all over the place, in the originals she looks like a young, maybe a bit awkyard yet of a teen; and now we have seen several where she looks like a poised young lady older than the original pictures. Her eye color in the pictures as well sometimes looks blue, and sometimes does not, etc. I am not saying this means anything important, it is just odd that in one release they are green and yet a family member said otherwise.

A few weeks ago I had occasion to drive Highway 8 through Barron. I paid very close attention. I found it extremely strange there is not one single billboard or sign of any kind from the MN Taylor Falls border through Barron. Barron has literally dozens of Chris Kroeze signs (contestant on The Voice) understandably, he did great(!), but basically none of Jayme. One City office had something about her on their sign and one house had a tree and a "hope" sign. Throughout the entire stretch of Highway 8 and the main drag. Yet Kroeze signs were everywhere as were Barron Bear signs even more present than anything about Jayme. The two things I saw about Jayme were negligible for the length of Barron and not a picture nor a detail. I stopped at one gas station, used the restroom and shopped for a snack and again noticed not one thing about her. I cannot say there may not have been something somewhere, what I am saying is I shopped the gas station and used the restroom as 90 percent of people would, without LOOKING for anything about her, and never noticed a thing. Could there be something somewhere? Sure, but nothing that would stand out to someone entering the station or shopping in it. Not to me anyhow.

There are billboards in other states but not a one from the MN border nor in her own area towns (not the ones I was in anyhow). Again, I am talking the main streets which I would think is where you would want such signs. Cameron was the same. I was not on Highway 53 so I cannot comment on that but I would doubt it as if Highway 8 has nothing why would 53? They searched along 8.

Nothing by Jennie-O either despite having a several block presence and a fence where something could be hung.

I allow for people could be scared and not want to call attention to themselves but I do NOT understand why there wouldn't be a ton of businesses doing so and at least a billboard. I do not know what is the norm in a missing case but I find it somewhat odd.

Then for odd things we have a panty thief who just happens to break in and the place happens to be under camera. What are the odds? Maybe he has no connection but we do know he skulks around at that time of night and stalks. Based on his arrests.

We have cars that mattered that now seem not to and yet they are still on posters as if they matter, etc. It has never been said definitively they do not matter, just more of a "not the focus" sort of right now.

A remark that stands out to me to this day is the sheriff saying or seeming to be surprised they did not find a weapon/gun. Why would they expect to??

I know people in the area and they are not talking about this case. I was told it is not in the papers and it is quiet and off of many people's radar as there is nothing about it in the local papers, etc. It was remarked to me the tree lighting was recently in the paper but other than that, there has been nothing. I can't say people do not talk privately about it in their homes or that some do elsewhere s well but I found no evidence of it, just the opposite when I asked a few close to me.

I also for the first time came by the house and tried to watch for it to see if I felt it would be easily picked or targeted. I can only say it is easily visible from the road now but it wouldn't have been in October and one is past it before you register you see it. I mean maybe at 1 a.m. you could be driving slowly to watch for it but in normal traffic that is not an option imo.

I was also struck by the fact that, even though we know it is just about a mile, I felt in no time flat I was in the Barron City Limits. It seems like a poor choice of a home to target randomly with no knowledge unless you are just stupid or methed up or something. When I returned by the same route I felt the same although the house seemed a bit further out but still, I just do not see it being randomly selected IF you knew two police agencies were less than four miles away.

I could and many others could as well add many more odd things that just do not make sense nor add up. I am in no way questioning LE or the victims, etc., I just cannot figure out the reasons. I imagine some of these things are tactics or they have a good idea of who did it. I sure hope so. The alternatives one can think of are not good ones.

I also find the silence about the family's activities even the weekend prior to possibly be significant. And it has been especially silent with regard to Jim.

Another oddity in this case is the neighbor's account. Either they are wrong or LE is. I also wonder where they were until 11:30 p.m. Again, this is not directed at them I am just thinking like a middle aged person. It is a Sunday night almost to Monday. The casino and perhaps a few bars would be open. While there may be some middle aged die hard bar flies, I think the majority have turned to being more daytime, early afternoon or early evening types. Perhaps they were at a family member's home for a party? I thought of that but others would most likely have jobs or children with school to attend the next day and such things would not go late on a Sunday. Now the casino would be a different story. One gets into a casino and forgets the time or keeps gambling. And if one did not have to work it would not be a big deal.

I have wondered if the neighbors won a big pot or even upset someone and they were followed at a distance. They see them signal and turn into a driveway and the ones following get the wrong driveway, the Closses.

I have no way of knowing this is even likely, just a thought. The neighbors could have been anywhere even coming from Wal-Mart in Rice Lake. It just seems unlikely and seems a late hour for a Sunday night.

My very first instinct when this case was in the news was meth heads and a possibly wrong residence. And then there was an arrest in the neighborhood and I still think it is possible.

However, like everyone, I entertain them all. Parents the target, Jayme the target, random, targeted, etc.

For some reason and I am unsure why, I feel the parents were the target (or one of them).

Just rambling and thought maybe some of it would give some food for thought. I have not been on here in awhile but have now caught up and read all posts.
Thanks for this post. You have hit a lot of things straight on, especially the community, birthday party, and James info silence. Actually, IMO there's also quite a bit of info silence as to Jayme as a personality.

It's almost surreal that community members suddenly closeted themselves - reminds me of a science fiction novel. I don't think this helps the investigation because it sure seems the more information that gets out, the easier to solve the case, especially if a non-resident was the culprit.
 
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