AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #30

[ArizonaNative]

I’m guessing after the first kid in town overheard adults say something happened at the Closs home, word spread like wildfire to every kid in town that has a device. Thus the girls driving by trying to figure out what happened...imo

 

[cluciano63]

It just seems like they have a POI. I’ve thought about Denise possibly being the target (I would sure like to know the reason Mark Furman thinks so) but then you take the teenage daughter because whatever this hatred is toward Denise is not her kid’s fault but then what do you do with her after that?

In other cases, LE is not quiet about a POI when a teen has been missing. I can think of two other cases where the teen girl was taken, others left behind dead, and LE announced name of POI immediately. Having a victim missing changes things. Jmo

 

[ilovechili]

I’m guessing after the first kid in town overheard adults say something happened at the Closs home, word spread like wildfire to every kid in town that has a device. Thus the girls driving by trying to figure out what happened...imo

That makes some sense yet if I understand correctly they were not from Barron. Both I believe are also in school and unless Monday was a day off in their area, it is quite late to be running around miles away from their home town. I guess I also think back to that age and even if not doing anything wrong, the last thing I would want to do would be to call the attention of many law enforcement officers on me. Maybe it is nothing but it seems odd to me. There just isn't a lot of activity in that rural area at that time on a Sunday night. That makes me wonder what they were even doing in the area. There could be a very logical explanation but then being nothing is shared, and we know nothing further about it, I overanalyze everything lol looking for something...

 

[Queencitylaydee]

IMO..nothing is normal about this case..every angle has to be looked at. Not an expert..just noticed the difference in names of executors..definitely great if both sides are working together

 

[margarita25]

What is the longest an Amber Alert has stayed active?

 

[ilovechili]

IMO..nothing is normal about this case..every angle has to be looked at. Not an expert..just noticed the difference in names of executors..definitely great if both sides are working together

No expert either, I just think each family chose an executor for their respective sister/brother. I think though we cannot tell the cases are probably being heard in tandem by judge, guardian and attorney representing them. I have no idea how it will work but putting one from each side in charge and having them pay bills together and consult each other is probably as good as one could get. Therefore, both parents and Jayme have both families looking out for her interests. That is my best guess anyhow. And I entirely agree 100 percent there is nothing normal about this case...

 

[Steelslady]

I’ve been looking back on previous threads- is there anything that indicates that Jayme was actually there when her parents were killed or is there a possibility that she disappeared earlier (after family gathering)?

To be honest, I have wondered this myself. Yet, the sheriff said judging by the 911 call that came in, they determined she was at the house at the time of the murders.

Something just doesn't add up in this case, and it is truly bothering me.

 

[JnRyan]

Jayme Closs vanished after her parents were murdered in October. Has the case gone cold?

I like seeing this as it keeps the crime out there in the public eye.

They mention trying to put together a timeline leading up to the murder. I don't know what LE has, but I've wondered that myself. We know Jayme and her mother were at a party that afternoon/evening and her father couldn't make it (work?). Then Jayme's mother has a phone conversation with someone (her sister? I don't remember) between 8 and 9 that evening. That is it. That is a LOT of unknown portions of the hours leading up to the crime. I'm sure LE has looked into possible POI's by talking to family, friends and co-workers. But what if someone said something or did something in the 24-48 hour period leading to the crime? For example, it could have been verbal altercation at a self serve gas pump with no other witnesses, but it is caught on the gas station's video surveillance earlier that day or Saturday. If none of the Closs's say anything to their circle of family and friends then the only persons who knew about it are dead or missing.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I’m guessing after the first kid in town overheard adults say something happened at the Closs home, word spread like wildfire to every kid in town that has a device. Thus the girls driving by trying to figure out what happened...imo

I could agree if it happened later on, these girls drove by on a Sunday night at 2 am within an hour of the crime while LE was still on scene. Plus they lived in another town over approx. 20 minutes away. Lots of coincidences there to me. JMO

 

[ilovechili]

To be honest, I have wondered this myself. Yet, the sheriff said judging by the 911 call that came in, they determined she was at the house at the time of the murders.

Something just doesn't add up in this case, and it is truly bothering me.

If there is one thing everyone mostly probably agrees on, it is that nothing adds

I could agree if it happened later on, these girls drove by on a Sunday night at 2 am within an hour of the crime while LE was still on scene. Plus they lived in another town over approx. 20 minutes away. Lots of coincidences there to me. JMO

I agree, it is very odd. Whether it relates or not, who knows but it is definitely not typical.

 

[Mistermagoo]

In other cases, LE is not quiet about a POI when a teen has been missing. I can think of two other cases where the teen girl was taken, others left behind dead, and LE announced name of POI immediately. Having a victim missing changes things. Jmo

With all due respect, that doesn't mean anything. I am sure that there have been cases that you, I or anybody was unaware of that LE has kept POI's close to their chest.

 

[Mistermagoo]

If there is one thing everyone mostly probably agrees on, it is that nothing adds


I agree, it is very odd. Whether it relates or not, who knows but it is definitely not typical.

Sleuth em

 

[Steelslady]

Thanks for this post. You have hit a lot of things straight on, especially the community, birthday party, and James info silence. Actually, IMO there's also quite a bit of info silence as to Jayme as a personality.

It's almost surreal that community members suddenly closeted themselves - reminds me of a science fiction novel. I don't think this helps the investigation because it sure seems the more information that gets out, the easier to solve the case, especially if a non-resident was the culprit.

For that matter, what do we really know about Jayme, the person, other than her family's accounts?

Usually, folks come forward and say some nice things about a child missing- maybe a priest, dance instructor, track coach, teacher, other kids in her class, etc. I know her dance instructor was interviewed early on in the investigation, but since then, nothing from anyone in the community has said anything about Jayme. Things like- oh, she loved football, sledding, hiking, collecting rocks, movies, favorite band or show on TV. Her favorite subject in school was history, but she hated Science and math- you all get my drift. We've heard several things about her parents that was said, but really not a blessed thing about Jayme, other than a couple of comments from her aunts. It's like this poor girl doesn't even exist, except for family photos. All the things I mentioned above would personalize Jayme more and certainly would not hurt the investigation in anyway. Not even any anonymous folks talking about her on social media. So very very sad, in my opinion!

 

[andreww]

I have wondered the same. A mattress and if I remember correctly a nightstand. Yet then we are told or it is implied that the perp did not come into the house past a few feet. Maybe it was just suggested taking more for any possible scenario is better than missing something so they took the mattress?

I also find it a bit contradictory when in the beginning the statement was made the sheriff said it was about the most violent or horrific (or something like that) crime scene he had ever seen and then later we hear it sounds pristine and there is no evidence, no DNA, nothing disturbed and they only entered a few feet and were there a short time, or that is what is suggested anyhow. The statements to me contradict. The only thing i can think of that would make both statements possibly true is if the wounds and injuries from the entry area of the house are really bad, with multiple shots and wounds? And maybe the parents struggling or trying to move and Jayme too. That would leave no forensics to speak of relating to the perp but could leave a violent scene with nothing disturbed. Otherwise, it makes no sense to me, the contradictory statements...

I believe that there were two high powered shotgun blasts, which would make a mess of the victims. Id assume there was massive blood loss from both, and when the sheriff was commenting about the home being undisturbed, he was talking about the scene beyond the obvious carnage. The house wasn't ransacked, wallet lying on the counter, I believe he's just conveying the fact that the perp simply didn't seem interested in the contents of the home.

 

[Steelslady]

It just seems like they have a POI. I’ve thought about Denise possibly being the target (I would sure like to know the reason Mark Furman thinks so) but then you take the teenage daughter because whatever this hatred is toward Denise is not her kid’s fault but then what do you do with her after that?

Agree. Mark Fuhrman was very specific in saying he felt that Denise was the target. Which might explain why James was killed first, most likely because he answered the door and got in their way of getting to Denise. Yet, they possibly took Jayme with them, instead of killing her, too. Which begs the question why?

 

[andreww]

With all due respect, that doesn't mean anything. I am sure that there have been cases that you, I or anybody was unaware of that LE has kept POI's close to their chest.

If there is a POI and the chance of a live hostage, that information would be made public. Guarantee it.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Sleuth em

HAHAHA you made me really lol

 

[girlhasnoname]

If there is a POI and the chance of a live hostage, that information would be made public. Guarantee it.

What if they had no idea where this POI is and suspect Jayme is with them? Or what if the perp(s) have her stashed in a secluded location and are bringing her food/water. They might fear for her safety by publicly naming a POI. JMO

 

[ilovechili]

Sleuth em

I will leave that to LE as I do not need a time out I will say, as it is in the call log and I would think allowed, that when LE went to a Cumberland address I did wonder if it related to these girls in any way.

 

[Rubiconbob]

Think these are from aunt...or friends
if these already posted. Disregard..

Don’t know when 5 ft 100 pounds was taken?? They may wanna gig that to 5.2 110.. or something...

Seems like would pass for nice waitress in Midwest town. Not a child.. assuming le/FBI has data to portray young..