WI - Six killed, 4 injured in Sikh temple shooting, Oak Creek, 5 Aug 2012

[Kimberlyd125]

http://m.cbsnews.com/fullstory.rbml?catid=57487732&feed_id=29&videofeed=null

The Army veteran who opened fire on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin was a member of a white-supremacist organization called Volksfront, described by a watchdog group as "virulently racist," law enforcement officials told ABC News

He was a member of the Volksfront, authorities said, which the group's website describes as "fraternal brotherhood of white men."

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Info on Volksfront

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksfront

 

[Kimberlyd125]

One of Volksfront’s primary goals is to establish an autonomous whites-only living space in the Pacific Northwest and, to this end, the group claims to have purchased several acres of property

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/vol...xtremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=volksfront

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.prefixmag.com/mobile/post/67750/

Wisconsin Shooter's Label Speaks Out On Temple Massacre

Label 56 is very sorry to hear about the tragedy in Wisconsin and our thoughts are with the families and friends of those who are affected. We have worked hard over the years to promote a positive image and have posted many articles encouraging people to take a positive path in life, to abstain from drugs, alcohol, and just general behavior that can affect ones life negatively. Likewise we have never sought attention by using “shock value”/ symbols and ideology that are generally labeled as such. With that being said, all images and products related to End Apathy have been removed from our site. We do not wish to profit from this tragedy financially or with publicity.

In closing please do not take what Wade did as honorable or respectable and please do not think we are all like that.

Thank you, Label 56



:waitasec: yeah right!
This label signs these skin head bands and know exactly what they are all about.

GMAB!

 

[i.b.nora]

This is a good, long article from CNN. These are snippets:


http://www.wisn.com/news/national/M...isc/-/9373390/15987828/-/12n19nv/-/index.html

The Army trained Page first as a mechanic for the Hawk anti-aircraft missile system, then as a psychological warfare specialist. He rose to the rank of sergeant before losing a stripe due to "patterns of misconduct," according to a Pentagon official who spoke on condition of anonymity. In October 1998, he received a general discharge under honorable conditions, the official said.

Christopher Robillard of Oregon, who described Page as "my closest friend" in the service more than a decade ago, said Page was pushed out of the military for showing up to formation drunk.

He described Page as "a very kind, very smart individual -- loved his friends. One of those guys with a soft spot." But even then, Page "was involved with white supremacy," Robillard said.

"He would talk about the racial holy war, like he wanted it to come," Robillard said. "But to me, he didn't seem like the type of person to go out and hurt people."

Teresa Carlson, the special agent in charge of the FBI's Milwaukee office, said investigators have been told Page may have been involved with the white supremacist movement, but that hadn't been confirmed. No motive for Sunday's attack had been established, but the FBI was investigating whether the killings at the Sikh temple were an act of domestic terrorism, she said.

Page moved back to Denver after his discharge, where he had a tough time in civilian life "and was basically living on the street," Robillard said. It was during that period that Page joined a "racist band" and started to get his body inked, his Army buddy told CNN.

PAGE 2

"I asked him why he was aligning himself with this stuff," Robillard said. "He really didn't answer. He would duck it."

Page had a girlfriend who left him for another member of the band, which then kicked him out, Robillard said. The last time they saw each other -- more than 10 years ago -- Robillard said Page was on a motorcycle trip across the country.

It was a trip Page recounted in 2010, in an online interview about his band End Apathy. He founded it in in the small town of Nashville in eastern North Carolina, where he ended up after bouncing around the country from California to West Virginia.

There is tons more...

 

[Chili Fries]

http://www.prefixmag.com/mobile/post/67750/

Wisconsin Shooter's Label Speaks Out On Temple Massacre

Label 56 is very sorry to hear about the tragedy in Wisconsin and our thoughts are with the families and friends of those who are affected. We have worked hard over the years to promote a positive image and have posted many articles encouraging people to take a positive path in life, to abstain from drugs, alcohol, and just general behavior that can affect ones life negatively. Likewise we have never sought attention by using “shock value”/ symbols and ideology that are generally labeled as such. With that being said, all images and products related to End Apathy have been removed from our site. We do not wish to profit from this tragedy financially or with publicity.

In closing please do not take what Wade did as honorable or respectable and please do not think we are all like that.

Thank you, Label 56



:waitasec: yeah right!
This label signs these skin head bands and know exactly what they are all about.

GMAB!

Yeah, and that label sells a book on their website called "Hunter". It starts off with the protagonist killing a "mulatto" and goes from there. It plays on an old racist fantasy...the white "hero" starts a chain of violence that eventually plunges the country into chaos, exposing all that's supposedly evil about Jews and forcing whites to band together to fend off onslaughts by brown-skinned people. The Turner Diaries is another book that tells the same kind of story and has been used as fuel for real racial violence in the past.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.h...ge_html_page_22995_content_77714129_pageNum_1


Sikh Temple President Died a 'Hero'

Satwant Singh Kaleka, president of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, would do anything for his beloved, tight-knit community, relatives say.

On Sunday, he died standing up to the horror of a gunman's attack on his house of worship in the Milwaukee suburb of Oak Creek. Kaleka, 65, managed to find a simple butter knife in the temple and tried to stab the shooter before being shot twice near the hip or upper leg, his son said Monday.

 

[STEADFAST]

http://www.prefixmag.com/mobile/post/67750/

Wisconsin Shooter's Label Speaks Out On Temple Massacre

Label 56 is very sorry to hear about the tragedy in Wisconsin and our thoughts are with the families and friends of those who are affected. We have worked hard over the years to promote a positive image and have posted many articles encouraging people to take a positive path in life, to abstain from drugs, alcohol, and just general behavior that can affect ones life negatively. Likewise we have never sought attention by using “shock value”/ symbols and ideology that are generally labeled as such. With that being said, all images and products related to End Apathy have been removed from our site. We do not wish to profit from this tragedy financially or with publicity.

In closing please do not take what Wade did as honorable or respectable and please do not think we are all like that.

Thank you, Label 56



:waitasec: yeah right!
This label signs these skin head bands and know exactly what they are all about.

GMAB!

Label 56's promotional materials for End Apathy has large red text reading "More Songs/More Hate!"
http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...temple-shooter-former-member-of-skinhead-band

 

[Betty P]

When living in N.C. after his Army discharge, Page was fired by his employer - a Harley motorcycle dealership - because he refused to take orders from a woman employee.

After Page left, his employer found an application for the KKK on his desk. His boss threw it away, but Page returned later and asked for it.

Page took orders from service writers describing repairs needed for customers' motorcycles and delivered the parts to the mechanics. Trouble started because one of the service writers was female, Tew said.

"He cussed my service writer out," Tew said. "Basically because he felt that she was beneath him giving him orders, and in fact she was over him. ... He didn't like taking orders from any female."

http://fayobserver.com/articles/2012/08/06/1195422?sac=fo.local

This guy had some real issues, a lot of resentment against others. He never seemed to take responsibility for his own actions.

Page returned to NC later, buying a home in Fayetteville in 2007. He couldn't keep up payments and it fell into bankruptcy.

Lots of info at link.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Actually, the problem today is more w/ hate/domestic terrorism groups recruiting military vets.

Recall the report written by the Dept. of Homeland Security back in April 2009.

It provided information and resources to state and local PD's about how to deal with the growing danger of right wing extremism. The problem was the conservative movement and news media went bonkers over it because it mentioned this very problem - that right wing extremist groups were heavily recruiting members from US military veterans.

They forced DHS Secy. Janet Napolitano to withdraw the report and apologize to veterans.

From MSNBC in April 2009



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30222789/ns/us_news-security/t/republicans-criticize-report-extremists/


The report did not characterize military vets as right wing extremists or domestic terrorists, as critics would have realized if they read it. But it pointed out to local LE to watch out for these kinds of recruitment activities by extremist groups in their jurisdictions.

So the report was retracted, investigations stopped and now we see the results.

Our country is extremely proud of its military, both active duty and veterans. But we have to realize that a small percentage of them have problems and are being targeted by extremist groups seeking their skills and military experience.

How do we see the results when it comes to this man? Who recruited him because he was an Army veteran? And I wont even call him a veteran. He was a misfit who could not comform to the military code of conduct. He did not leave honorably.

It is that very small percentage that makes all the other honorable men and women look bad and the media always helps to brainwash their readers and viewers and paints with a very wide brush everytime. It disgust me and I know it has to disgust all the millions who have sacrificed so much for our country. This man didnt even go overseas.

Even though Holmes was never in the military it was the first thing brought up by the media as if to convey only someone in the military can be a mass murderer. The media disgust me too.

IMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I just had a thought.

While researching for another thread here some time back, I found out that all (or maybe most?) baptized Sikh males have to wear a kirpan under their clothes for protection of themselves and any other innocent person who is threatened. I wonder if they don't wear them in their temples because they feel safe there?

I just remembered that because the article talked about the president of the temple finding a butter knife to stab WMP.

I would have thought he, and many others would have had kirpans.

I'll have to see what I can find out about that.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

all baptised Sikhs (Khalsa) must wear a kirpan at all times.

Although not all those who identify themselves as Sikhs carry a kirpan, it is one of the five articles of faith required to be worn by Sikhs. [1]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirpan

 

[katydid23]

One of Volksfront’s primary goals is to establish an autonomous whites-only living space in the Pacific Northwest and, to this end, the group claims to have purchased several acres of property

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/vol...xtremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=volksfront

GOOD. Now all we have to do is put some electric barbed-wire around it and they can all go live on that 'separate' land.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Article explains Sikh funeral ceremonies

http://mobile.slate.com/articles/ne...emation_ceremonies_of_the_sikh_religion_.html

Before the ceremony, the body is washed with water and adorned with the five articles of faith that initiated Sikhs are supposed to carry or wear at all times in life: kesh (uncut hair, which is covered by a turban), kanga (a wooden comb), kachhera (an undergarment resembling a pair of shorts), kara (an iron bracelet), and kirpan (a short sword).

 

[Kimberlyd125]

This article mentions a kirpan. The last article called it a butter knife.
Big difference IMO.


http://m.firstpost.com/world/how-satwant-singh-kaleka-died-protecting-his-gurdwara-407969.html

The FBI told Kaleka's family he attacked the shooter in the lobby, resulting in a "blood struggle." A bloodied kirpan lay close to Kaleka's body.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Very interesting article IMO. And goes along with our conversations about the perception of the Army taking a hit when an Army veteran commits violent crimes.

http://nation.time.com/2012/08/06/the-sikh-shooters-army-past-and-a-u-s-armys-sikhs-reaction/

The Sikh Temple Shooter's Army Past -- and a U.S. Army Sikh's Reaction

Page “does not represent military sentiment,” Army Major Kamal Kalsi tells TIME. “And I am a testament to that, being a turbaned Sikh in the military.” Kalsi says he is one of only three turbaned Sikh soldiers in the U.S. Army and among the first in 30 years to be able to wear his turban, retain his long beard and hair and keep his kirpan — the ceremonial knife carried by Sikhs — underneath his uniform, so long as its blade is no longer than three inches.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

It is really bothering to me that they keep giving military reference to this idiot. He never served in active duty so there is no PTSD issue.

Then we have the "hate" groups that don't want to own him either, so they say. They say that he doesn't represent what they stand for, but everything from their music, literature, paint on their bodies and all else states that they spend their waking moments proliferating their cause. The combination of their efforts, encourage individuals that are mentally unstable to not only embrace but also act on their behalf.

This mentality is nothing more than pure ignorance, fueled by a segment of society that found a common bond due to the fact that they were incapable of fitting in elsewhere for various reasons of insecurity.

Each individual associated with any of these groups, should look deep in their soul and ask why would I choose to hate instead of love. We all have a need to belong somewhere, but is this really what you want to be proud of?

 

[katydid23]

It is really bothering to me that they keep giving military reference to this idiot. He never served in active duty so there is no PTSD issue.

Then we have the "hate" groups that don't want to own him either, so they say. They say that he doesn't represent what they stand for, but everything from their music, literature, paint on their bodies and all else states that they spend their waking moments proliferating their cause. The combination of their efforts, encourage individuals that are mentally unstable to not only embrace but also act on their behalf.

This mentality is nothing more than pure ignorance, fueled by a segment of society that found a common bond due to the fact that they were incapable of fitting in elsewhere for various reasons of insecurity.

Each individual associated with any of these groups, should look deep in their soul and ask why would I choose to hate instead of love. We all have a need to belong somewhere, but is this really what you want to be proud of?

Thank You. I looked at some of the 'white power' websites yesterday and wanted to puke. They were all separating themselves from this killer, and acting outraged that anyone would connect them with him. That is pathetic. They helped create him. They filled his mind with their hatred and garbage and then he acts out on their beliefs, and they act all surprised by it.

They should be taking responsibility for it, not acting with feigned disbelief that he was a violent .

 

[pdxmama]

Yeah, and that label sells a book on their website called "Hunter". It starts off with the protagonist killing a "mulatto" and goes from there. It plays on an old racist fantasy...the white "hero" starts a chain of violence that eventually plunges the country into chaos, exposing all that's supposedly evil about Jews and forcing whites to band together to fend off onslaughts by brown-skinned people. The Turner Diaries is another book that tells the same kind of story and has been used as fuel for real racial violence in the past.

That was also the basic premise of Charles Manson's Helter Skelter fantasy. These people make me sick.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/ar...owa-trucking-company?Frontpage&nclick_check=1

A representative from Barr-Nunn Transportation, based in Granger, Iowa, sent the following release Monday evening regarding Wade Michael Page’s employment history with the company. Page is believed to have opened fire at Sikh temple in Wisconsin Sunday, killing six people before being shot and killed by law enforcement officers.