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Originally Posted by sleonardelli
Do you know what pages those were on or which witness audio recordings those were? I have only listened to 2 of those witness recording and one indicated she believe GZ was on top."
jjenny reply to above:
I don't understand how Zimmerman could have possibly been the one on top, beating Trayvon up, and yet Trayvon has no injuries whatsoever to his face, head or neck.
"John" described what he saw, including clothing, and it's clear to me, based on "John's" statement, that Zimmerman was the one on the bottom getting beat up."
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My response to both:
From everything I have found, John lives closest to where the two were on the ground and somehow Trayvon was found dead three or four houses down
Different witnesses saw different sections of the contact between GZ and TM.
It is obvious that this was a moving interaction. The flashlight, the Honda Key, the tan Plastic bag (likely the 7-11 bag) and Trayvon's phone were several houses away from where TM lay dead or from what witnesses and SFD suggest lay dying. (MC heard TM whimpering or crying, saw TM's foot move and SPD got a slight rhythm of a Few" beats on their monitor amidst the mostly flatline.)
The school teacher heard the beginning, she described it as talking, then moments later she heard more talking voices, after going to her window then she saw "wrestling." She reports that they were about 10 feet away from her porch. She says that at some point the two were about three feet from other peoples patios. MC & her roommate see the end where GZ is straddled over TM's body and touching his back. This is quite a ways into the courtyard.
This altercation moved around...the bad thing is that only one women without her contacts in saw the two figures, with a "fistfight" between them running, IIRC North (but don't quote me on that part.) I'm trying to figure out if this was after "John" shut and locked his door and went upstairs to call 911 and in this time frame he heard a "pop...sounded like a rock..." and before MC and her roommate saw the aftermath.
MC, her roommate and others, probably closest, heard a shot. Several witnesses described two shots...maybe it was the echo off of the buildings or someones door slamming. Because SPD, says they have 7 bullets...one in the chamber and six in the cartridge as well as the casing found near TM. They did not find any other casings, they said.
ETA: how do you have a fist fight between them?