Witness accounts

[dennys]

Zimmerman's father stated that george " saw somebody(Trayvon) that did not live in the community walking behind some townhomes". In GZ's call to police dispatch Trayvon is at the Clubhouse and then coming towards him on the road he was parked on- Twin Trees. So when and where did GZ actually first spot Trayvon before he called police? GZ was supposedly on his way to the store, so how did he end up on Twin Trees facing the clubhouseand able to spot Trayvon behind some homes ? Was he following Trayvon in his car after he left his house ?Can't wait to hear that part of GZ's testimony.

 

[AJ Noiter]

It might be here:

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...an-trayvon-martin-case-released-to-the-public

I see W-6 at the bottom. hth

Whoops, missed your post. It is at the bottom. Thanks!

 

[AJ Noiter]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Wi...ath/-/1637132/13475090/-/15bcvf6/-/index.html

Was witness 9 anonymous? this article makes it seem like this is just an unidentified witness (due to protection until trial)

ETA: Oh then there was the Middle Eastern gentleman GZ so charmingly abused (but we shan't discuss here since that is another thread?)

Witness #9 says that she wants to stay uninvolved in the case in the recorded conversation. That tells me she wont be taking the stand regarding it. From the sounds of it, it could be someone who was a close friend of Mr. Zimmerman's at one time and they had a falling out - based on her statements about knowing the rest of the family and how they're "all the same." Because of that I'm going to say it's, in my opinion, probably just a disgruntled friend who wants revenge.

 

[deelytful1]

Witness #9 says that she wants to stay uninvolved in the case in the recorded conversation. That tells me she wont be taking the stand regarding it. From the sounds of it, it could be someone who was a close friend of Mr. Zimmerman's at one time and they had a falling out - based on her statements about knowing the rest of the family and how they're "all the same." Because of that I'm going to say it's, in my opinion, probably just a disgruntled friend who wants revenge.

Lmao.. i was about to thank your post up to the last sentence...
maybe it was someone who KNOWS George and his family and just doesn't want to get involved due to "young children" "work commitments" or the best one which I've seen over and over.. she doesn't want her name dragged thru the mud by the defense if she WAS willing to testify.... Happens all the time.. the defense LOVES to put the witness on trial.

 

[LambChop]

Witness #9 says that she wants to stay uninvolved in the case in the recorded conversation. That tells me she wont be taking the stand regarding it. From the sounds of it, it could be someone who was a close friend of Mr. Zimmerman's at one time and they had a falling out - based on her statements about knowing the rest of the family and how they're "all the same." Because of that I'm going to say it's, in my opinion, probably just a disgruntled friend who wants revenge.

GZ seems to have a lot of those. jmo

 

[AJ Noiter]

GZ seems to have a lot of those. jmo

I'm only aware of 3, and two of those are likely to be the same person (anonymous caller and witness #9, and the co-worker). I wouldn't really say that's a "lot." I know factually that if you ask around long enough you'll probably find a good 50 or so people who have personal issues with me.

 

[PaperDoll]

I think the 13yr old saw one person laying on the ground yelling for help alone.

Yes, I saw that, too. However, he did say he only saw it for a second or two. He had thought that person broke their leg or something, IIRC

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The diapers/spoon fed comments were not made by GZ.
They were made by his brother. A brother that had no contact with GZ at the time he made the statements.

I'm not sure why that statement is repeated over and over.

JMO

 

[suzihawk]

First of all, we don't know how poor her vision is without her lenses. Second of all she was inside her residence. She also couldn't give any descriptions of men she says she saw running.

I have pretty bad eyesight without my lenses. I may not be able to tell what race the people were or how tall they were or what they were wearing but I would definitely be able to tell the difference between whether they were standing or whether they were on the ground - even from within my residence. Unless she's been declared legally blind. In which case her testimony would be totally useless.

 

[cityslick]

Two different witnesses (one of which was John) stated they saw two men on the ground. I can dismiss one witness saying that, but not two. Witness statements I'm referring to start at the very end of page 37 and continues to page 38.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Two different witnesses (one of which was John) stated they saw two men on the ground. I can dismiss one witness saying that, but not two. Witness statements I'm referring to start at the very end of page 37 and continues to page 38.

But neither one say they were watching when the shot went off. And if I remember right there is a bit of time when they were not watching and the shot went off.

 

[HiHater]

But neither one say they were watching when the shot went off. And if I remember right there is a bit of time when they were not watching and the shot went off.

Jumping off your post, kinda.

Per the autopsy report, page 138 here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/93951121/State-v-Zimmerman-Evidence-released-by-prosecutor

Witnesses observed the two fighting in the yard and then the resident fired a handgun at the male striking him in the the chest. The male fell to the ground.

How does one who is already on the ground, fall to the ground? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, who knows...

 

[Dr.Fessel]

The witness here says a police officer took a picture of Zimmerman's bloody face and was showing it to bystanders to identify him.

Any idea why he would do that when he would have just told police who he was?

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http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...an-trayvon-martin-case-released-to-the-public

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I am assuming it is the same officer who admitted taking a picture of Zimmerman and Trayvon here on pg 18 http://www.scribd.com/doc/93951121/State-v-Zimmerman-Evidence-released-by-prosecutor

Was he showing the picture of dead Trayvon too I wonder?

Is that the picture Serino showed Mr. Martin?

 

[Just K]

Quick O/T
Each of these .wav files goes to a white window with the Quick Time (Blue "Q") and takes forever, if at all to load. I've tried everything to get them to load...and nothing...anyone have any ideas or alternative links?

 

[suzihawk]

Quick O/T
Each of these .wav files goes to a white window with the Quick Time (Blue "Q") and takes forever, if at all to load. I've tried everything to get them to load...and nothing...anyone have any ideas or alternative links?

http://axiomamnesia.com/

 

[ladonna]

Does anyone know where I can find the interview Sonny Houstin did with TM's girlfriend?

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Several witnesses in case change their accounts



http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...120522_1_witnesses-change-shooting-fdle-agent

 

[cityslick]

Several witnesses in case change their accounts



http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...120522_1_witnesses-change-shooting-fdle-agent

Sounds like nobody really saw anything in detail and that includes the lady who said she saw two people running.

That one is actually significant because it could be assumed that would be potential evidence that GZ was chasing TM.

 

[annalia]

Sounds like nobody really saw anything in detail and that includes the lady who said she saw two people running.

That one is actually significant because it could be assumed that would be potential evidence that GZ was chasing TM.

She does still say she saw someone running. But I don't think that can amount to much as far as proof of anything. If she saw someone running in a certain direction it could still mean that it was Trayvon running away but no way to ever be able to prove that in court.

I think the one that is the most significant though is John. His story seems to have fallen completely apart and it had pretty much been taken as solid proof of Trayvon beating on GZ and GZ yelling for help. First he said he could see who was calling for help, then he could see Trayvon hitting GZ MMA style, now he couldn't even see this MMA type fighting.

JMHO