Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[OverthinksIt]

I can also try to answer any general questions re the PICU unit and Ronald McDonald House's security measures/tracking for parents and visitors, though I'm no expert. Just a longtime Websleuths-lurking mom whose son has been here on and off for years now -- and who is super impressed by all the clever thinkers on this site.

 

[IQuestion]

Wow. AB hasn't been involved with this case in years. Now that's quite a vendetta, IMO! It always impresses me (though not in a good way, lol!), when someone can carry a spiteful grudge for years over pretty much nothing.

Lots of people will be "turning up for years" gotta love this!!!!
You guys are so smart and observant! I'm not a "wiki-saavy" person, but I was looking to see if any of the other people involved had recently had their
"bio-s" changed recently. And lo and behold....I came across this! Guess everyone involved will get a lot of mileage and notoriety of some sort....AND THE TIMING OF A JUNE RELEASE....hmmmm....aren't there some heavy courtroom proceedings beginning in May?
http://www.pathologyexpert.com/working-stiff-book/

 

[justice be served]

That would be fabulous! I have never seen any. Best to you and your son. It is kind of you to think of this when you have your own very important things to attend to.

I can also try to answer any general questions re the PICU unit and Ronald McDonald House's security measures/tracking for parents and visitors, though I'm no expert. Just a longtime Websleuths-lurking mom whose son has been here on and off for years now -- and who is super impressed by all the clever thinkers on this site.

 

[bourne]

Wow. AB hasn't been involved with this case in years. Now that's quite a vendetta, IMO! It always impresses me (though not in a good way, lol!), when someone can carry a spiteful grudge for years over pretty much nothing.

I think these new additions to AB wiki are simply diversions in order to throw off the scent about the vendetta against Rebecca Zahau and her family. Otherwise, why were there NO revisions until YESTERDAY when I found the wiki Zahau changes and posted them here on WS?

Someone's trying really hard to manipulate us/public/facts re: Rebecca Zahau.

 

[bourne]

I can also try to answer any general questions re the PICU unit and Ronald McDonald House's security measures/tracking for parents and visitors, though I'm no expert. Just a longtime Websleuths-lurking mom whose son has been here on and off for years now -- and who is super impressed by all the clever thinkers on this site.

Hi Overthinksit, can you get status on WS as a verified insider? Here are a few questions about Rady & PICU:

Where are the surveillance cameras located in PICU and the hospital? Do you have to physically check in at the front desk in lobby, and also the PICU because the hospitals where I work/live, there is high security and the guards have to physically buzz us in (even if we work in the hospitals) due to possible child abductions.

 

[bourne]

I looked up the IP address given above: 12.180.133.18 but I think this is another diversion, in that it is a proxy used to cover up real IP address since according to WHOIS IP address, this belongs in Parsipphany, NJ.

As we know according to insider, Nina's son is a computer expert. I'm certain he knows how to use alibis and proxies to hide real IP address.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I'd like to point out that a settlement of a case could involve no more money than legal expenses for the plaintiffs along with the defendant's admission of guilt.

Strangely, I could see the Zahaus accepting such a deal in their case against DS, and DS absolutely rejecting such a deal in her case against JS...

 

[time]

Wow. AB hasn't been involved with this case in years. Now that's quite a vendetta, IMO! It always impresses me (though not in a good way, lol!), when someone can carry a spiteful grudge for years over pretty much nothing.

I know, eh!? I don't know if it's spite or just attacking and trying to insert or delete info wherever they can that concerns the Zahau case. It seems to me to be an internet game since wiki is so powerful at showing up on Google. Although I wouldn't doubt the motive is sparked by a desire to control the info on an emotional level.

 

[justice be served]

I know, eh!? I don't know if it's spite or just attacking and trying to insert or delete info wherever they can that concerns the Zahau case. It seems to me to be an internet game since wiki is so powerful at showing up on Google. Although I wouldn't doubt the motive is sparked by a desire to control the info on an emotional level.

I think it's called DESPERATION. BTW, the SD WD case is now 527 days old. You just know they're going to try and squeeze the Zahaus dry. Shameful.

 

[justice be served]

I'd like to point out that a settlement of a case could involve no more money than legal expenses for the plaintiffs along with the defendant's admission of guilt.

Strangely, I could see the Zahaus accepting such a deal in their case against DS, and DS absolutely rejecting such a deal in her case against JS...

I can see the Zahau family pressing forward as far as they can to seek the truth - even though it will be very costly since they're after justice not money. But their efforts may have to stop when they run out of money but they'll know far more than they did before.

 

[justice be served]

I looked up the IP address given above: 12.180.133.18 but I think this is another diversion, in that it is a proxy used to cover up real IP address since according to WHOIS IP address, this belongs in Parsipphany, NJ.

As we know according to insider, Nina's son is a computer expert. I'm certain he knows how to use alibis and proxies to hide real IP address.

Or they are using an on-line Reputation Management specialist which we saw when JS was actively in the news.

 

[bourne]

Or they are using an on-line Reputation Management specialist which we saw when JS was actively in the news.

Perhaps, but I highly doubt JS is involved in any of these wiki distortions. Why would he care about changing Anne Bremner's info when she's not even involved in the Zahau suits anymore?

The only ones who have high stakes in this are Rebecca's murderers and the ones who are named as Defendants to the WDS.

 

[K_Z]

Well, I personally don't think one of the defendants, Adam Shacknai (or his brother Jonah), would be carrying some kind of personal vendetta against Anne Bremner, such that either of them would stalk around making feeble efforts to edit AB's Wikipedia page. The other defendants....hmmmm.....what we do know with certainty is that DS has worked tirelessly in public to openly accuse RZ and her sister of murder, and attempt to change the narrative about Max's death.

Whoever is engaging in the wiki "edit wars" isn't particularly knowledgeable about how the edit process works for wiki. In fact, the edit history in both AB and RZ appears that the individual simply tried to erase and insert their own info. (Lol!! Really?!)That's a pretty simplistic and naïve approach-- editing just doesn't work that way. It's a big bureaucracy, with fiefdoms, and lots of rules and protocols. A mere mortal can't just slip in some random information to a page, and think it's going to get past the gate keepers there. (Lol!)

Here's a few interesting links to explain the bureaucracy behind Wikipedia.

http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/520446/the-decline-of-wikipedia/

http://mashable.com/2013/01/08/wikipedia-losing-editors/

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...d-in-battle-with-pr-firm-delete-250-accounts/

 

[K_Z]

I looked up the IP address given above: 12.180.133.18 but I think this is another diversion, in that it is a proxy used to cover up real IP address since according to WHOIS IP address, this belongs in Parsipphany, NJ.

As we know according to insider, Nina's son is a computer expert. I'm certain he knows how to use alibis and proxies to hide real IP address.

Yes, but equally clearly, the pattern of the wiki edits suggests that the person attempting the edits is not at all very bright, or very savvy at all about the internet, or Wikipedia. IMO. It's just a very clumsy and inept attempt to change the narrative of both pages. IMO. But so very curious that the same IP is involved in both, eh?

Somebody with a lot of time on their hands, IMO. And a grudge, involving both of them. Disturbing, IMO.

 

[*Lash*]

Remember one of the defendants, Nina Romano set up Go Daddy domains AZdivorcewise(.net) and CAdivorcewise(.net) The creation dates of the websites were around the time of Dina's divorce to Jonah, August 20, 2009. In my opinion, this definitely shows a pattern.

 

[*Lash*]

I looked up the IP address given above: 12.180.133.18 but I think this is another diversion, in that it is a proxy used to cover up real IP address since according to WHOIS IP address, this belongs in Parsipphany, NJ.

As we know according to insider, Nina's son is a computer expert. I'm certain he knows how to use alibis and proxies to hide real IP address.

It really isn't that difficult to set up a proxy. I assume if any of the defendants are posting on the net they are using proxies, but if the Zahau attorneys wanted to take this further there are sources out there that can locate the hidden IP address. Just sayin, you don't have to be an expert to use a proxy server. I can easily see all 3 defendants using proxies.

 

[kittychi]

The wiki stuff...just wow! There is someone at LHK who knows all about proxy servers...very surprised at the clumsy attempt to edit on Wiki.

Looking for Lucky Lucy to weigh in on this...:thinking:

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I think it's called DESPERATION. BTW, the SD WD case is now 527 days old. You just know they're going to try and squeeze the Zahaus dry. Shameful.

What is SHAMEFUL, is to accuse an innocent family of murder - especially when it was your sister's SUICIDE (proven by LE over and over) that brought such heartbreak and trauma to EVERYONE INVOLVED -just to try and make $10 Million Dollars. SHAMEFUL.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I can see the Zahau family pressing forward as far as they can to seek the truth - even though it will be very costly since they're after justice not money. But their efforts may have to stop when they run out of money but they'll know far more than they did before.

The Zahau famiily is ONLY after MONEY. Here is the EXACT page from their management conference statement (posted earlier).

Are they interested in ANYTHING BUT MONEY? NO!



Are they willing to have a conference to talk about it - like DECENT people would do? NO.

Are they willing to take 10 Million dollars to drop the case? Why, YES, yes they are!

So much for justice, huh?

Disgusting.

 

[*Lash*]

Hi LuckyLucy2,

Thank you for providing a pic of the ADR page ! Is there any way you could post the entire case management document or something that connects this form to the Zahau Wrongful Death suit? The image provided does not link the form to the Zahau civil suit. I'm just a stickler for details. TIA