Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #12

[Windsorite]

I wish the original posts weren't truncated, because now I'm wondering where the "pharmacy technician" came in.

Here:
A ‘Van Life’ Couple Went on a Cross-Country Trip, but Only One Returned

 

[TotusTuus]

Indeed.com disagrees with you on this one...

https://www.indeed.com/jobs?from=careeradvice-US&l&q=nutritionist&vjk=211cbbf6d6bec831

Yep, there are nutritionist certifications. No sign that Gabby actually had any of them, though.

Certified clinical nutritionist
A certified clinical nutritionist (CCN) is qualified to assess people’s nutritional needs based on their lifestyle and health goals. The Clinical Nutrition Certification Board offer this certification.

A CCN can provide personalized recommendations for diet, exercise, supplements, and stress relief. To become a CCN, a person must have one of the following nutrition degrees in order to begin training:

• Bachelor of Science (B.S.)
• Masters (M.S.)
• Doctor of Philosophy
• Doctor of Science (Sc.D.)

Alternatively, they might have an advanced professional degree in another licensed healthcare field.

The amount of training a person needs to become a certified CCN depends on their preexisting qualifications. For example, someone with a B.S. degree must spend a minimum of 3 course hours on a range of topics — such as human physiology, biochemistry, and microbiology — before they become certified.

Someone with a more advanced degree, such as an Sc.D. or nursing degree, may not need to complete as much training. However, all CCNs must pass an exam and need to maintain their certification with ongoing training every 2 years.

Certified nutrition specialist
The certified nutrition specialist (CNS) credential is a qualification that a nutritionist can earn in the U.S. The BCNS certify all CNSs.

People who apply for CNS training must have an M.S. or doctoral degree in nutrition or another related field. In addition to these degrees, all trainee CNSs must:

• complete coursework from a regionally accredited institution
• complete 1,000 hours of documented, supervised practice
• pass an exam
• recertify with continuing education credits every 5 years

The minimum number of hours a CNS must spend learning about the life sciences is higher than that of CCNs. They may also study topics such as pharmacology, drug interactions, and nutritional disorders.

 

[Hope4More]

I'm not judging anyone for what they read or post on Instagram. I spent my whole day off watching livestreams of a sign in front of a park.

Did it point you in the right direction?

 

[Daae]

Exactly. A woman called in a tip to FBI. Then she made sure that everyone knew about her tip to the extent that it is reported in the news. There are pages of comments discussing the tip that she called in to FBI even though it is an uncorroborated tip. Should we discuss what must be thousands of other tips as well? What makes this tip different? The FBI certainly have not treated this tip as special.

It's a nice story that makes no sense regarding Gabby and Brian walking 10 miles or so to camp. Why would they do that when they have a perfectly good vanlife van for sleeping safely? Where was the van allegedly parked while Brian was freaking out about hitchhiking to Jackson after asking for a ride to Jackson?

I really respect you Otto, but I disagree on this one. People should watch the 5 or 6 videos she has posted. Miranda said BL stated he left his "wife" (verified by Miranda's text to her mother) for several days, and hiked down the Snake River. Only Brian hiked away from the van.

 

[Vegasgrl]

I believe that behavior is common in a relationship where the pattern has reoccurred and was part of the bonding process. A percentage of you is attracted to the other, you share experiences, unique perspective, openly accept the others behaviors, and allow for strong emotions to erupt with no accountable boundaries because the attraction and desire to forgive to move past, to avoid setting boundaries has resulted in the elevated behavior to a norm. Between them, they sense a storm that they allow because the bound is strong. The emotional side, explaining the behavior is challenging, it may even be muted such that self blaming protects the potential legal harm to the other or both of them. My point is that from the observe, the situation seems more grave then they are willing to accept or ability to connect with. Their desire places them in plausible denial of the building conflict. Until it no longer can be denied and that is perhaps where we are right now in observing this wreck of a relationship.

I agree, and I would add that I don't see any romantic chemistry between these two.

 

[mlhenn]

Gabby Petito Search: Timeline Of Road Trip With Fiancé Brian Laundrie, Notable Dates And Events

Detailed Timeline

 

[Cardinal47]

Even in this new age of telemedicine? Would someone so attached to an in-person physician set off on a long journey like this?

Yes I believe they would do that if the need was great.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Do roads go into the disbursed camping areas, or is it necessary to hike in? Or does it just mean no facilities?

There are roads. People camp in their vehicles.

 

[HolographicOne]

Indeed.com disagrees with you on this one...

https://www.indeed.com/jobs?from=careeradvice-US&l&q=nutritionist&vjk=211cbbf6d6bec831

There are indeed Nutritionists, which require no certification, and have no specific job. (The ones here operate holistic foods/medicines)
CNS, sometimes called a nutritionist, is a specialized degree, but they are not the same.

 

[LullabelleRosie]

If the hitchhiking scenario is to be believed, I think he told them about Gabby bc a hitchhiker with a girlfriend or fiancée seems less dangerous than some random single dude- especially to a couple- they could relate with wanting to get back to their partner

 

[bambibones]

Exactly. A woman called in a tip to FBI. Then she made sure that everyone knew about her tip to the extent that it is reported in the news. There are pages of comments discussing the tip that she called in to FBI even though it is an uncorroborated tip. Should we discuss what must be thousands of other tips as well? What makes this tip different? The FBI certainly have not treated this tip as special.

It's a nice story that makes no sense regarding Gabby and Brian walking 10 miles or so to camp. Why would they do that when they have a perfectly good vanlife van for sleeping safely? Where was the van allegedly parked while Brian was freaking out about hitchhiking to Jackson after asking for a ride to Jackson?

Have you watched the videos? Sure, there are plenty of tips, but this one feels more reliable. The original point is that enough people found her persuasive enough that there was pressure for LE to take a look. There may be other worthwhile tips that haven't yet caught their attention.

Gabby and Brian were hikers and 10 miles would have been a long hike (but not unthinkable). But I don't see this as necessary to this possible scenario. Brian kills Gabby either at the campsite or on a trail somewhere, then he freaks out and heads north, thumbing his way - and then changes his mind and retrieves the van. If he killed her on hiking trail instead, it would have been even closer to retrieving the van. I've never seen hiking at all as necessary to this scenario except for when he fled after committing murder - and it's clear he was thumbing his way, not hiking.

 

[otto]

I think this is one of the most important tips that has been received by LE. It establishes a timeline, it establishes where he was located (if it was him, and I believe it to be). I take it at face value that the reason she made the recordings (with excellent corroboration from her texts and her mother's) was because she learned about the case on TikTok and wanted to spread the word to others who'd been in the vicinity in case they had seen him or given a ride that day after or before she dropped him off. I hope whoever picked him up after he was dropped off at Jackson Dam also comes forward. JMO.

I see this (see below) as the timeline. It's clear that Gabby disappears between late Aug 27 and Aug 29. Brian needed two days to drive home to Florida. We don't need tiktok to figure out when she disappeared or where she was last seen. That is widely available without tiktok.

Timeline of Gabrielle Petito’s disappearance

2 July, 2021: Gabrielle Petito and her fiance, Brian Laundrie, leave New York on a cross-country trip in a camper van.

5 July, 2021: The couple stops at Monument Rocks in Kansas.

26 July, 2021: two reviews added of places they stayed in Virginia and Florida.

29 July, 2021: she or somebody posted a review of BLM 378/Willow Springs Rd in Arches National Park

12 August, 2021: 9:00 am - 2:00 pm, GP and BL were at the Moonflower

12 August, 2021: afternoon, separated by PD. Video 2.

13 August, 2021: Brian's last post on IG of him alone

17 August, 2021: perhaps broke the engagement, Laundrie traveled to Florida by plane

19 August, 2021: video implying that they are at a campsite outside Capitol Reef National Park.

23 August, 2021: Laundrie returns to Utah

24 August, 2021: Ms Petito is last seen checking out of a Salt Lake City hotel with Mr Laundrie

25 August, 2021: Ms Petito’s mother, Nicole Schmidt, video chats with her daughter for the last time via phone. Ms Petito reveals she is in Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming.

27 Aug 27, 2021: Gabby tells friend via Snapchat they was heading for meet up at Yellowstone National Park and she will call on her birthday, August 29, to solidify the plan.

29 August, 2021: Missed birthday call with friend to discuss meet up plans at Yellowstone National Park.

30 August, 2021: Ms Schmidt receives a text purportedly from Ms Petito. Ms Smith says she is unsure if the text was actually from her daughter.

1 September, 2021: North Port Police Department said that Gabby's fiance, Brian Laundrie, returned home to Florida ten days before Petito was reported missing by her family.

11 September, 2021: Ms Petito’s parents report her missing.​

Partial timeline from:
Boyfriend returned home 10 days before Gabby Petito was reported missing, police say

 

[Cloudydiamond]

I agree - I don’t think his parents are lying. I DO think they’ve made poor choices and are only considering their son’s welfare. I also think, deep down, that they really believe GP is beyond help, which is why they’ve shown no interest in finding her. IMO. MOO

What?

 

[dtowndetective411]

Maybe brian flew home on 8/17 for a funeral or something. Maybe it has nothing to do with storage (although no idea how GP’s mom got that idea, if not). But maybe it was for a very unrelated reason. Or maybe his dad needed help with a big manual project like a storage unit overhaul but that didn’t have to do with gabby. We just don’t know.

It does seem like he was home at that time, though. His sister also knew about him flying home, and started to say something about it during the interview (as in, she would’ve expected he would fly home again instead of drive, since he’d just done that) but stopped herself midway and said she shouldn’t say that because the police are working through it.

 

[Beren]

I wonder what would have had to happen that a seemingly loving and mostly peaceful person who cares about plants and the environment to end up here in this situation today. I wonder what Brian is thinking now, especially when he thinks about where he was just a month ago.

I wish I could tell him it's not too late to come in. It'd be better for him.

 

[NuttMegg]

She said it was the damn. She said he freaked out when he realized they were going to Jackson Hole (in other words, back up north).

Edit: they were going south but he was adamant to not return there and exited vehicle. Now FBI is looking East. They know something and I am more hopeful than I've been for 5 days.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the case is solved because "outdoor dude" can't readily determine N vs S?

 

[bambibones]

Someone posted many pages ago this was debunked.

I noticed it wasn't on the NPPD page.

 

[Kdaiwes]

I have such a hard time accepting it was premeditated. Just go home. There. Done. She’s out of your life. Plus, I don’t think he’s this much of a mastermind.

I don’t necessarily think it was premeditated. I think he was in a panic trying to get back to the van to leave once he realized what he did or what happened. They could have just gone on a hike and got into an argument/went into a rage and he snapped.

 

[Skigirl]

If the hitchhiking scenario is to be believed, I think he told them about Gabby bc a hitchhiker with a girlfriend or fiancée seems less dangerous than some random single dude- especially to a couple- they could relate with wanting to get back to their partner

Plus, as he showed in his encounter with the police, he's just rather chatty when he's nervous. He was probably mentally rehearsing his story and this was a chance to voice it. And plus, he is starting to establish a set of witnesses who have heard that Gabby "stayed alone with the van" while was off hiking by himself. That set him up to "find Gabby missing" when he got back to the van.

 

[OldProtozoan]

I was reading the timeline. This stood out to me. On the 30th, Gabby's mom, after having trouble getting a hold of Gabby, tried to contact Roberta, BL's mom, and Roberta did not answer. IMHO, the families had been in communication throughout this van-life thing, which would make Roberta's not returning calls a "clue". So, in my opinion, this isn't coincidence, this is because BL has communicated something to the parents in the 27th-30th timeframe. IMHO, this information prompted BL's parents to contact their attorney. So, in this fictionalized account of mine, the infuriating behavior of the parents has all been guided by legal counsel. I can further speculate that IF BL conveyed information of a criminal activity, then the family needs legal counsel, as accessory-after-the-fact charges may be at stake. Cornell Law School offers this definition. "An accessory-after-the-fact is someone who assists 1) someone who has committed a crime, 2) after the person has committed the crime, 3) with knowledge that the person committed the crime, and 4) with the intent to help the person avoid arrest or punishment. An accessory after the fact may be held liable for, among other things, obstruction of justice...the government has the burden of proof to show that the defendant assisted the principal offender after the crime." So, IMHO, the Laundries infuriating behavior is because they have been sucked into this by BL, and the Laundries, and all of us, have the right not to incriminate ourselves. We cannot be forced to give testimony against ourselves. IMHO, legal counsel may be guiding the Laundries behavior. It's not just BL anymore, and hasn't been since the August 27-30th timeframe. MOO