Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #14

[bellyup]

Way too big for a 9mm case. That's a pelican style case and looks to be in the size range of their 1400 cases which are made for laptops.

You can have a case that’s larger then what’s in it.
My partner keeps his shaving supplies in a case like this (he’s a straight razor buff).
They aren’t exclusive for any specific use

What tells me it was probably used for a gun was LEs interest in it. They didn’t go through the whole car. They went in the trunk found the case and determined it was empty. It seemed like they were specifically confirming that.
And they are wearing bullet proof vests looking for him.
1+1=2

 

[MadMcGoo]

Could Gabby have made it back to Florida with Brian?

 

[Loulu]

Does anyone know if the regular scent dogs (as opposed to cadaver dogs) would still pick up BL’s scent if he were to become deceased during the search?

 

[LAhiker]

I think @cady had a good theory on a previous thread. I don't know how to quote from a previous thread properly, but here's a link to the post:
ACTIVE SEARCH - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #13

I think he killed her and disposed of her near the spread creek campsite and then, in a panic had to create an alibi by hiking north to near colter bay.........clean himself up and hitchhike back to the van, telling the people who picked him up MORE than they needed to know about "fiancé" being back at the campsite busily working on her vlog..... this way, if gabby had been discovered dead, it wasn't the loving boyfriend who hurt her because he was out hiking by himself toward colter bay and while he was gone, lo and behold, someone assaulted and killed Gabby. He could then say that when he got back, she wasn't there and he thought she had left him so he drove home to mama. The whole hike to colter bay was to cover up for his dastardly deed. He wasn't equipped for that hike, but he had to leave stuff at the campsite to make it look like someone was there.

• Like others, I think the TikTok poster Miranda Baker sounds credible and conscientious and disagree with Gabby's parents that the timeline is off. While of course it could've been someone else that Miranda and her boyfriend picked up, I think it was Brian and that he still would've had time to drive back to Florida. (Assuming that it was he who drove the van back to Florida).

Scenario 1: -- as @cady suggests, BL and GP and their van are at or near the Spread Creek Dispersed campsite. They argue, he kills or injures her. He then hikes (yes, hiking 10 miles is doable for many, though I don't know if it's doable for him) or hitches north to Colton Bay, showers, and then hitches south toward Jackson, wanting to pick up the van and get out of there. Some questions/comments:

• If he initially said he wanted to go to "Jackson," why did he panic and get out of the car when was it mentioned? Someone suggested that there are two roads going south, one of which is closer to the Spread Creek campground, and he realized they were on the one further west. So he didn't get out to hitch, as he said, but instead to hoof it to the campground and get out of there.
• If he wanted to build an alibi that someone else killed her, shouldn't he have reported her missing when he got back to the campground and acted distraught? Maybe he realized that wouldn't hold up?
• Like others, I wonder if the tent was found in the van. It sounds like he didn't have it on him.... Could he have mentioned camping with a tarp not only to claim to have been gone for several days but to draw attention away from the tent? Could he & GP have fought in the tent -- could he have killed her there and then disposed of the tent and her?
• This scenario or something like it may be why LE is searching at Spread Creek campsite.

Scenario 2 -- maybe BL and GP went north, to the Snake River area, with the van (or possibly without it, but hard do see why they'd do that). He then killed her and hitched south to Colton Bay, where he showered and cleaned up. Questions/comments:

• Why would he then have wanted to hitch to Jackson -- why not hitch back north? For an alibi? But if he needed an alibi, why freak out when he's actually being taken to Jackson, where he asked to go? Confusion about geography -- did he think Jackson was north of Colton Bay? (Maybe GP was the navigator to his driver, though in that case, it's odd that he made it all the way back to FL on his own.) Maybe he wanted to go south for an alibi, but then changed his mind wanted to back to the van pronto to drive back to FL?
• This scenario, or something like it, may be why an area of Yellowstone is being searched. (At least, that's what I've heard.)

Another question:

• Are there cameras at Colton Bay? Did anyone see him there? What direction did he come from? What did he look like when he got there -- what was he carrying, and did he indeed take a shower?

JMO.

 

[Loulu]

Does anyone know if the regular scent dogs (as opposed to cadaver dogs) would still pick up BL’s scent if he were to become deceased during the search?

 

[Mom24]

While the thread was closed. Of course I’d run across this like 10 mins after it was locked down. But I randomly stumbled upon a clip of John Walsh being interviewed on Fox News(I assume it was yesterday/last night). It was in his opinion that BL has signs of being a sociopath and Walsh was worried he could hurt his own family as well if they said or did someone wrong from BL’s POV. Walsh cited specific other cases(I believe Watts was one of them) as reference for why he felt that way. Walsh also made no qualms about where he stood on if BL was responsible Gabby’s disappearance.

Just had to share. I’m sure it goes without saying. Walsh isn’t a psychologist nor has ever interacted with BL. Just his opinion since he’s been involved with the true crime world for decades. Also if this has already been discussed….forgive me. The threads move so fast. It’s hard to keep up.

It's why I've wondered if Brian might be found closer to one of Gabby's parent's homes. I worry that they may be in some danger of having him show up there.

 

[dalsglen]

Why should he be in the swamp in the first place?
I don't get this assumption at all.
Yeah yeah , his scent was there. So what? Does it mean he never left the place?

What proof do we have that he abandoned the Mustang there? The most important question :What kind of parents would bring the Mustang back home? Any parent will be frantic to find him. Not wait 3 days or bring the car back home. Waiting 3 days is the clearest indication that they wanted him to have a head-start.

He had a plan to escape. He didn't tell the parents because they might crack under pressure and they would have to eventually tell the police. But he knew exactly where he was going. Parents could have given him the money he needs.

I'm not sure I believe the swamp story either.

@Trackergd how long do you think his scent would last with the recent bad weather?

 

[tresptip]

Why was there frames cut out of the video just before they got to the van?

 

[GRT]

....respectfully snipped for focus...


?: Parent's hadn't heard from BL so went to the reserve to look for him. They just happened to have enough people to drive another vehicle back, happened to find the mustang fairly easily, and happened to have the keys with them
Friday: BL's parent's report him missing
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If they found the car at the reserve, where he told them he was going--why in the world would they drive it home and leave him on foot when/if he was to return?

To me, it's much more likely they staged the car being gone during the day to back up the story they planned to tell, but that it had nothing whatsoever to do with Brian. JMOO

 

[mlhenn]

Yeah I noticed it too. We haven't heard anything except for GP's friend Rose, correct?

Gabby Petito's childhood friend said the missing 22-year-old wouldn't have run off on her own and worries something 'devilish' happened to her

Here’s another friend of GP speaking out.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The search resumed Sunday morning, North Port police said in a tweet, writing that investigators are “looking for anything of note after his parents say this is where he went.”
Searches continue for Gabby Petito and her fiancé, who disappeared after returning home from a road trip without her - Local News 8

In Gabby Petito case, digital detectives want to help - CNN Video

 

[dacjess]

I doubt he is dead from self harm, or any other way, JMO. But the folks, IMO, let him get away for 3 days before calling PD, then they waited another day to "remember" the bit about "seeing" the mustang at the reserve and driving it back home. They've got LE occupied for the next few days, while he can get even further away, or more deeply dug in to some counter culture that doesn't ask questions of a young kid.

I may have to eat my hat if we see a canopy going up in the reserve, but this is like a poor television script with the cops doing what they are told to do, more or less, by the family.

It really does seem like that from the outside! I haven’t followed many cases so I’m sure others have been through cases where LE calmly resolves things and on their own time but the optics in this one are horrible, IMO. Since they’ve planned ahead of what they communicate to LE, they’ve managed to make it look like LE is a step behind. I have no idea if they are or they aren’t but it’s wild.

I was surprised that they went out in body armor, BL didn’t seem like he’d be confrontational to someone who could retaliate with force. So for now I don’t have a sense he’s suicidal but I haven’t seen enough of him to get a clear picture for myself so I trust LE.

I’m very curious about the time line and if the parents are actively lying to LE or if they just thought they were helping their son. I agree with most posters that their moral compass in this situation seems way off so I wonder when they started lying… was it just Tuesday or weeks ago?

 

[otto]

Mother Gabby Petito confirms sighting of Gabby's van in Grand Teton days after she was last seen | Daily Mail Online

However…
Gabby’s mother told MailOnline that she is 'not entertaining' a TikTok video that’s been widely circulated in which a young woman describes picking up a man she believed to be Brian on the 29th.

'The timeline seems way off. Maybe she thought it was him, but I just know the timeline is off. The van left there the night of the 27th or early on the 28th. The van was in Florida on the first. It’s not possible for it to have been there on the 29th.'

I completely agree with Gabby's mother regarding the timeline of the Tiktok video. It does not fit with everything else we know about the couple's timeline. It's interesting, but it doesn't fit.

"Gabby’s mother told MailOnline that she is 'not entertaining' a TikTok video that’s been widely circulated in which a young woman describes picking up a man she believed to be Brian on the 29th.

'The timeline seems way off. Maybe she thought it was him, but I just know the timeline is off. The van left there the night of the 27th or early on the 28th. The van was in Florida on the first. It’s not possible for it to have been there on the 29th.'
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Mother Gabby Petito confirms sighting of Gabby's van in Grand Teton days after she was last seen | Daily Mail Online

 

[Satchie]

Why was there frames cut out of the video just before they got to the van?

I agree that's odd and perhaps it's evidence police have asked them to not show?

ETA They said they noticed the license plate and wanted to say hello, so perhaps they stopped filming while they talked about it.

 

[Sunset]

Could Gabby have made it back to Florida with Brian?

Then why didn't she call her parents?
Or BL's parents would have told that they are back. Something is fishy but we have no clue what.

 

[PommyMommy]

SEP 19, 2021
Viral photo taken in California is not Gabby Petito, authorities confirm (sfgate.com)
A Facebook post that speculated missing "van life" blogger Gabby Petito could be in Lodi, Calif., is incorrect, both police and Petito's family say.

The photos, which show a young blond woman in and around a truck stop, originated from a post on the Lodi Crime & Police Scanner Facebook group. The caption indicated the woman allegedly asked strangers if they knew where her family was. Because of her resemblance in age and appearance to Petito, the post was reshared by a user speculating it could be the missing woman.

[...]

 

[Nah]

He had a plan to escape. He didn't tell the parents because they might crack under pressure and they would have to eventually tell the police. But he knew exactly where he was going. Parents could have given him the money he needs.

I disagree that he had a plan to escape, because that swamp is not the place to do that. Maybe a Mexican border town. But not a Florida swamp.

I think he went to the swamp for some quiet time to himself before killing himself. MHOO.

As a side note, the amount of people they have searching there tells me they have extremely credible evidence that he is indeed somewhere in that swamp. I believe they are struggling to find him because he probably either drowned himself or killed himself in the water, something like that.

Side note that this whole case reminds me of the game Scotland Yard, which I grew up playing. IYKYK LOL

 

[GussiedCanoodler]

If they found the car at the reserve, where he told them he was going--why in the world would they drive it home and leave him on foot when/if he was to return?

To me, it's much more likely they staged the car being gone during the day to back up the story they planned to tell, but that it had nothing whatsoever to do with Brian. JMOO

Oh, I totally agree. It makes absolutely no sense that they would just take it home and leave him there. I've given up trying to find explanations for their behavior because the only thing that would make any sense (with the info that we have) is that they knew he was abandoning the car. I guess I'm just curious about how this information is being presented as fact, I guess? Or maybe it isn't. Hard to tell with so many places reporting on the case.

 

[bluwaters]

Sorry if this has already been posted.
The FBI has set up a dedicated website where people can submit digital media to assist their investigation to find Gabby Petito
FBI — Gabrielle Petito – Missing Person

 

[bellyup]

Does anyone know if the regular scent dogs (as opposed to cadaver dogs) would still pick up BL’s scent if he were to become deceased during the search?

Based on what I’ve seen they are likely using dogs capable of both. Bloodhounds are commonly used for scent tracking but not as much for cadaver (they can be but it’s not their strength)

They aren’t saying too much about what dogs are finding what.