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Not if it's factual and you can provide an approved source link.I'll get kicked off of here if I answer. imo
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Not if it's factual and you can provide an approved source link.I'll get kicked off of here if I answer. imo
I was thinking that the answer might be "nothing" except getting annoyed when she was trying to do the things that could bring in the money.I'll get kicked off of here if I answer. imo
Gabby had posted on IG that their first trip (in 2020) was done in her small car, and was enthusing about how much more spacious the van is. I'm still wondering how they were able to do two cross-country road trips two years in a row. What kind of jobs did they have that allowed this? Do they hire on someplace, then quit when they feel like vagabonding? If they weren't paying rent at his parents' place, I suppose that would allow them to save enough money for these trips, but would it give her enough to buy a van?
So many questions. So few answers.
I read, too, that BL’s sister may be talking. Someone posted it a day or two ago on one of these threads. No mention of BL’s sister since. Any info available?I thought I read that the sister may be cooperating, not sure.
Sometimes, in the past, I'd rather let someone else drive than be subjected to endless snarly denigrating back seat driving. Although these days I'd just pull calmly over to the curb and say "bye, take a bus".And here is something else: he was likely gaslighting her about her driving skills along with the fact that he didn't think she could follow her dream to be a YouTube influencer. That may be why SUCH AN ADVENTUROUS YOUNG WOMAN would be afraid to drive very far.
Hmmm. So maybe she'd been hiding their conflicts from her parents all along? She wasn't on the phone with her parents, when the police spoke to them in Moab?At one point in the body cam Brian says, “I hope she didn’t say anything too bad about me,” as if he was probing if she gave too much information about him that he doesn’t want the police to be aware of.
<modsnip: No MSM to substantiate. Social media 'comments' are not allowed for discussion.>
Notice how in the body cam video Gabby <modsnip> says she was calling her parents, YET the Dad stated in an interview yesterday that he was not aware of the domestic dispute issue and that if Gabby had told him, he would’ve been on the first flight there to pick her up and bring her home. He was unaware of any problems, including mental health problems that Gabby told MOEB police she was suffering from according to that police report.
Agree 100%. I’m not a fan of most police, but how the cops handled this, is how I always envisioned cops should handle all stops. Instead of what we usually see.Moab police sent two officers to this incident. One stayed over an hour and did his best to get the couple into a better place (instead of arresting someone). They did run the plates, which is likely why it was clearcut that Gabby should be the one driving the van onward that night, while Brian (the "victim" - as he had visible marks on his body and Gabby was observed by the witness who called in...slapping and scratching Brian, which she did not deny and which two other witnesses said they saw, as well).
How is this sloppy police work? This type of community policing (they actually went after the van!) is what we all want. This is what most communities do not have. I'm actually amazed that Moab police took the amount of time they did on this minor incident. They couldn't have known that she was going to disappear, nor were there any grounds to do more (except possibly an arrest for DV - which some of you are saying they should have done, but really? a few scratches on a larger, stronger 23-year-old male who was clearly trying to drive away from his traveling partner - and the van owner - near the Co-op). No priors.
Bodycams record what they record - how can police change that??
I'll get kicked off of here if I answer. imo
could be, but i dont think thats the senario in this case, my mother was controled like that by my father and i can tell you first hand that if he was that controlling she certainly would have never hit him or put scratches on his face like she did, the fear would have never allowed her to act out like that IMOShe said "I don't usually drive the van", 1:04:10 So it sounds like he is in control of her whole trip. I see the signs. Can we stop here honey? From the person who is not allowed to, or prefers not to drive. Always asking the person in control if she can stop and do or see something.
This is not necessarily his fault, some couples prefer this. But I find it bizarre that it is her van, yet someone else is in charge of driving it, and can use it as a (psychological) cudgel.
Because this is likely a recovery, not a rescue. And if he tells a truthful location, he gets arrested. If he tells a false location, he will eventually be caught in a lie. If he hit her in the head with a rock or strangled her with his angry hands on a trail, there’d be no evidence in the van or on his/her things. Assuming he ditched his clothes. If he then dragged her off in the woods off trails, she may not be found for a long, long time. Or ever. No body, no evidence, no crime. I am very worried about finding Gabby in that vast, vast, rugged terrain. And soon the snow will be very thick, very brutal temps, high winds, road closures, etc. The window to find her in the near future is very short.
I hadn’t seen this until you mentioned it! The one to the left says it’s a FL sticker-which is odd. & the other doesn’t appear to have a location that can be seen. I’ve googled trying to find it, no luck so far.Anyone besides me realize there are additional stickers from the recent photos of the van? Perhaps we can speculate where they were based on the new stickers?
I was thinking that the answer might be "nothing" except getting annoyed when she was trying to do the things that could bring in the money.
Bodycam: this cop - epic fail. Let's a distraught woman go off by herself in a van, takes boyfriend to a hotel. WTH?
I asked my BF (retired police chief) about the “theft” question, and why LE isn’t pursuing that issue. He said that simply driving a car or being in possession of a car that isn’t registered to you is not a crime, unless that vehicle has been reported stolen.I think the point some were concerned about was IF BL took the van and left her, without permission ?
That would (I think) be considered theft.
I think LE could charge him ?
But they're waiting.
They have one bite of the apple and to act without good evidence , his arrest would help no one -- as he (if he did something to her) could walk.
And her family will have no answers, ever.
Imo.
She said "I don't usually drive the van", 1:04:10 So it sounds like he is in control of her whole trip. I see the signs. Can we stop here honey? From the person who is not allowed to, or prefers not to drive. Always asking the person in control if she can stop and do or see something.
This is not necessarily his fault, some couples prefer this. But I find it bizarre that it is her van, yet someone else is in charge of driving it, and can use it as a (psychological) cudgel.
Lol(And I mean that in a sarcastic cynical sense; as this situation in reality is no laughing matter). Having said that….now you’ve peaked my interest. You can’t answer but I’m curious what road your own mind is going down. I generally have a pretty good idea….it’s a thought provoking question certainly.
Sadly, I too worry about remains ever being found, if we assume the worst and she's somewhere in that terrain. <modsnip>