Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #48

[ce4au]

Indeed, Rudolph's case proves that it is not only possible to survive in the Southern U.S.'s mountain ranges, but to do so indefinitely -- especially if one has help. And that, to me, is the only stumbling block for Brian: while anti-abortion, anti-government sympathizers fed, hid, and otherwise helped Rudolph, folks ticked off about Brian's widely-publicized "stupid Southerners" quip in a Wyoming bar in August are unlikely to roll out the red carpet.

SBM. Speaking as a “stupid southerner” myself haha “…unlikely to roll out the red carpet” is an understatement. Lol. This is JMO, but apparently he DETESTS anyone with a southern accent. He was legitimately angry at those people in that bar (JMO). Could you imagine if someone with a southern accent handed him a plastic water bottle?! He’d spontaneously combust!! JMO.

ETA: fixed quotation marks.

 

[WizardQuest]

Do we know for a fact that BL drove the van all the way back to FL?

"Laundrie drove the Ford Transit van back to Florida on September 1 alone, police said."

Brian Laundrie's sister breaks silence on Gabby Petito in ABC Exclusive: 'She's like a sister'

 

[SMK777]

Yep, let's face it if the Youtuber didn't drive by at that time, we could still be looking for Gabby, not much longer there will be snow. Makes you wonder was he working towards his quickly thrown together plans, then here comes the family in the RV. It could have been the impetus for him to bail.

BBM Good thinking.

 

[RickshawFan]

Q

Its.possible she was getting overwhelmed by it all and he tried to get her to step away!
He said he didn t think she could.do it!
6 hours.is a.long time!
Sometimes u just need.to.step.away

IMO You're underestimating how long it takes to put together media materials, start a website, several SM accounts, get the graphics, upload the graphics..... and then you've got to administer it all. It takes hours and hours a day, week in and week out. I'm surprised it ONLY took 6 hours that day.

 

[Quiche]

My thoughts today have me wondering if the Laundrie's meeting with the lawyer in Orlando was more aptly regarding his real estate capacities.

Again, with the "if it were me" line of thinking-- cheapest, safest, most effective way of sheltering my son? A good contact and New York Off-Grid Land for Sale - 171 Listings | Land and Farm

JMO

 

[Bekind89]

SBM. Speaking as a “stupid southerner” myself haha “…unlikely to roll out the red carpet is an understatement.” Lol. This is JMO, but apparently he DETESTS anyone with a southern accent. He was legitimately angry at those people in that bar (JMO). Could you imagine if someone with a southern accent handed him a plastic water bottle?! He’d spontaneously combust!! JMO.[/QUOTE.

Lolol! As a fellow Southerner all I can say is " Bless his heart."

 

[priyaya]

Do we know for a fact that BL drove the van all the way back to FL?

this was my question as well. as someone pointed out, he'd basically would have had to drive a solid 24 hours for multiple days to get back from the 29th hitchiking in WY to his sept 1 arrival in FL. Not that it isn't possible, but that's a whole lot of nonstop driving for someone who had just been off wondering around for a few days alone after presumably the 27th. Anyway its definitely something I had thought of and that was brought up. I think there wasn't anything conclusive about it other than it could have been possible he met and pick up someone to share in driving responsibilities. but also he could have just been that manic....

 

[10ofRods]

This is why specific features should be looked for: pointed ears, crooked front teeth, finger tattoos. Things he cannot change. MOO

But can easily disguise. Veneers on Amazon (shipped to a locker) for under $100.

He will not be seen without a cap or beanie (he'd be smart to switch to a beanie, as he is known for a baseball cap).

He can wear gloves tailored to look like biking gloves (fingertips open) or any number of other things I see on the daily. As long as he doesn't stay long in one place.

 

[10ofRods]

The quoted parts of that article are probably accurate about them dating in HS, but I wouldn't trust the writers analysis (or narrative) in that story. The writer stated, 'When the two graduated high school, Gabby moved in with Brian and his family in Florida'. But that isn't accurate. I don't know where BL lived between HS and moving in with his family in Florida but GP worked at a restaurant in Wilmington, NC from September 2017 to January 2019 before moving to Florida.

Friends of Gabby Petito remember her time living in Carolina Beach, working in Wilmington | CBS 17

The writer is wrong, but I don't doubt the interviewees words at this point in time. Real name is there, she said what she said.

I didn't cite it for the rest of the article.

But if you want to doubt the interview ever took place because the reporter has some things wrong, we'll be short on links to share here.

 

[Angels Advocate]

The motive that the prosecution can prove is directly related to the kind of murder or manslaughter charge the defendant gets. So knowing motive (or lack of it) is usually necessary in order to charge in homicide properly.

I will give several examples from the state I am familiar with:

There are several ways to get to first degree murder, one is felony murder (means the defendant was in the process of committing one of several enumerated -- generally violent -- felonies) when someone died or was killed. So lots of people get a first degree murder charge even if they were just standing by or the getaway driver, etc.

Regular first degree just requires showing malice, as well as premeditation and deliberation. They have their own specific definitions.

Another type of first degree murder is encompassed by "lying in wait" There are others.

Second degree murder requires proof of malice, but not P&D. And malice can be reckless disregard for the wellbeing of the person who was killed, or a "depraved heart" It also comes up when the spouse finds spouse in bed with another and shoots dead ASAP, even if has to go to another room to find the weapon, it's generally second degree murder.

Manslaughter (both voluntary and involuntary) have their own definitions also.

So motive is relevant and can be necessary to know in order to charge properly.

 

[ctmom]

this was my question as well. as someone pointed out, he'd basically would have had to drive a solid 24 hours for multiple days to get back from the 29th hitchiking in WY to his sept 1 arrival in FL. Not that it isn't possible, but that's a whole lot of nonstop driving for someone who had just been off wondering around for a few days alone after presumably the 27th. Anyway its definitely something I had thought of and that was brought up. I think there wasn't anything conclusive about it other than it could have been possible he met and pick up someone to share in driving responsibilities. but also he could have just been that manic....

IMO, If someone else besides BL and Gabby drove that van... LE would have found evidence when they seized it.

 

[Angels Advocate]

SBM. Speaking as a “stupid southerner” myself haha “…unlikely to roll out the red carpet” is an understatement. Lol. This is JMO, but apparently he DETESTS anyone with a southern accent. He was legitimately angry at those people in that bar (JMO). Could you imagine if someone with a southern accent handed him a plastic water bottle?! He’d spontaneously combust!! JMO.

ETA: fixed quotation marks.

Yes, one of his many prejudices. Poor guy, southerners are awesome!

 

[putnam6]

Regarding hiding along the AT and the comparison to Eric Robert Rudolph.

It is believed that Rudolph was able to hide for 5 years because he had a lot of help. That area of N.C. was his home turf. It is likely that he was living under someone's roof and being supplied with food and clothing.

BL isn't likely to have that kind of support.

True but at the end he was nailed going through a garbage dumpster in a small town, so in cases, like this help, only last so long, not to mention what is the reward up to? At some point, those helpers bailed. But yea Rudolph had like-minded people he could get supplies from and shelter occasionally. So far we don't know if he is getting help or not.

 

[Bluebythec]

What are the alternatives? Are you suggesting a second person or a tow?

I'm just wondering if it's possible someone picked the van up and left a vehicle at another location for future use.

 

[Angels Advocate]

True but at the end he was nailed going through a garbage dumpster in a small town, so in cases, like this help, only last so long, not to mention what is the reward up to? At some point, those helpers bailed. But yea Rudolph had like-minded people he could get supplies from and shelter occasionally

That was awesome when he was captured! But I do not believe BL has his breadth of skillset.

 

[nocommoncents]

SBM. Speaking as a “stupid southerner” myself haha “…unlikely to roll out the red carpet” is an understatement. Lol. This is JMO, but apparently he DETESTS anyone with a southern accent. He was legitimately angry at those people in that bar (JMO). Could you imagine if someone with a southern accent handed him a plastic water bottle?! He’d spontaneously combust!! JMO.

ETA: fixed quotation marks.

Am "stupid southerner". Can confirm.

 

[Bekind89]

True but at the end he was nailed going through a garbage dumpster in a small town, so in cases, like this help, only last so long, not to mention what is the reward up to? At some point, those helpers bailed. But yea Rudolph had like-minded people he could get supplies from and shelter occasionally

He did have a lot of help. BL is NOT a " people person", Gabby was. I think he deeply envied that about her.

 

[ringbearer]

My thoughts today have me wondering if the Laundrie's meeting with the lawyer in Orlando was more aptly regarding his real estate capacities.

Again, with the "if it were me" line of thinking-- cheapest, safest, most effective way of sheltering my son? A good contact and New York Off-Grid Land for Sale - 171 Listings | Land and Farm

JMO

Not saying there aren't plenty of corrupt lawyers, but how unlikely is that possibility when the Laundries already have the FBI as an entourage. I'm gonna say, no. Definitely not possible. jmo

 

[cady]

IMO, If someone else besides BL and Gabby drove that van... LE would have found evidence when they seized it.

Maybe..............he had 10 days to scrub it, though. jmo

 

[10ofRods]

I skimmed through the transcript of the Moab incident and watched the video many times, and may have missed this, but I seem to recall someone said they never asked him for license and registration and that they assumed the van was his, since he was driving. Did any officer ask her if, given her hysterical state, that she’d be comfortable and safe driving the van to a place to stay that night? What if they had reservations 6 hours away that night? Again, I may have missed details but if they assumed he was van owner and driver, then why not let him control the vehicle and put her up in a hotel that night given her state of mind.

They had plenty of time to run the plates, as they drove 6 miles north before they stopped him (LE is trained to use the first available offramp, and to try not to use the roadside of large highway - because it has resulted in many accidental deaths of LEO's).

So they already knew that (and doing it before a stop is now firmly part of community police protocol where I live, barring only circumstances where probable cause is established by the actions of the car/driver itself/themselves).

Their reservations were a few miles ahead, in Arches, and I do believe LE had that information at some point. I believe it's in one of the bodycam videos. At any rate, Gabby has been reported to have made reservations there.

She was the owner of the van.

If she had not considered herself fit to drive, that would have been quite a problem and had she said that, they wouldn't have let her drive. But I don't think they would have let BL drive her van in any case. That's why they handled it as they did - she had a short distance to go, the Park Ranger had an eye on her, speed limits are low in the park, and she never said she didn't want that as a solution,

If LE put up every person in that "state of mind," well, I know the local budgets in my county could not and would not handle that (we have very community oriented policing, but it's paid for by local taxpayers and the budget is already very strained...most people want the money to go to solve the backlog of unprocessed crimes, not to pay for hotel stays for travelers who are crying by the side of a freeway or offramp somewhere in L.A.

Moab is actually not a rich area, in terms of taxes...