Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #51

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Charles Watson/Fox News recently gave an update. GP’s family was ready to launch the official website for her foundation today but it was halted due to so many scammers. Breaks my heart! Prayers BL is caught alive…. Prayers for GP’s family as they move forward. You can find the update off Fox News!
 
JudgeJoe said:
Bingo- great find. And if LE thought he was really on the trail, that alert would most definitely be up there. A portion of the trail would likely be shut down altogether. Imo
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I’m not sure why LE would contact the ATC. I went into their office once. They were snooty. That’s my ENTIRE connection to the ATC. Word easily gets around on the AT . While current events might not be popular topics, fugitives certainly are, along with weather.
 
TheGardener said:
Good Morning WS Buds! After reading through most of the postings here, and weighing out what's been reported and what LE has verified, I'm more or less waiting for the same two announcements I was waiting for yesterday - cause of death (not likely) or capture (not any time soon). I hate to be in the position of having to chew over the same cud every day. I'm waiting for the slip ups that oftentimes lead to the capture of fugitives who depend on others for their flight.

I've been a crime buff for years, seen probably thousands of accounts of murders and mayhem wrought over the course of the last couple of hundred years. Where fugitives have been caught and subsequently interviewed, I've yet to hear of the majority confessing they had all kinds of fun and would love to do it again. Well, maybe only Robert Durst with his multi-million dollar nest egg. The others got away for hours, a day, a few days, a month, before LE found them in a field somewhere covered with ant bites and begging for water. A few have made it for as many as 20, 30, 40 years, but they weren't allergic to work and were savvy at finding ways to create new identities. Without outside help, they understood how to mimic a low key existence and fly under LE's radar. Still, they lived a paranoid's life of fear; they were caught. They slipped up.

I have questions. Shortly after the slapping incident on Aug. 12th and being a thread away from being arrested and spending at least a night or two in jail, the intimation is that everything was all kiss kiss, we're fine, everything's good. I don't buy it. Had it not been for schmoozing the cops, Brian would have been in the LAST place he'd want to be. Not on the road singing in the wilderness and melding with the wide open spaces. Not going barefoot in the grass and scrambling over hill and dale. Brian was looking at four walls, iron bars and a possible domestic violence charge in a land far, far, from home. I think the experience scared the living s*** out of him.

Shortly afterward, he's calling home, unloading his recent near miss on his familial benefactors, flying back home and shifting her gear in or out of the house. They spend a few hundred on plane fare to consolidate the goods and save on locker rental? They're loaded! What's a few hundred rental bucks to them when they can spring for plane tickets at the drop of a hat? It seems to me the Laundries have no problem circling the wagons when poked in a bad way by fate or bad behavior that bites them unexpectedly on their derrieres. I believe they called him home to formulate a plan to get Gabby out of ALL of their lives once and for all. Move her stuff wherever, finish out the last leg of the Magical Mystery Tour, bring her home, then kick her out for good. After all, she almost got him ARRESTED! That's the last straw. Of course, none of this was disclosed to Gabby. Let's play pretend until she hits the front door. Then, its - hit the road.

Nothing like an argument about we're almost out of water to lead to spilling his guts about he and his family's being finished with her b***s*** and ready to pitch her out upon their arrival home. Imagine being told THAT when you're 2300 miles from home. If that doesn't qualify for a fistfight, nothing does. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face, mentally or physically. This battling couple fought it appears - to her death. And don't think Brian didn't tickle the apron strings he depends on. He called home and they prepared. The rest you know. Plan B formulated on the fly.

So, I'm waiting patiently for mistakes. When the secrets come to light, its going to be interesting how right or wrong we've all been - ultimately, all of it is going to be a lesson for young girls and boys about choosing their partners more carefully and taking their time before they commit their hearts and minds to people whose depths they've not mined.
MOO
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Exactly! IMO BL tucked his little tail between his legs and flew home to get his hands on what he could- Her belongings in Florida. Once he realized she could be physically removed from his control, it was leverage. The L family current behavior certainly does not disprove this conjecture of their behavior while he was at home scrambling to show GP who was boss.
 
TheGardener said:
Good Morning WS Buds! After reading through most of the postings here, and weighing out what's been reported and what LE has verified, I'm more or less waiting for the same two announcements I was waiting for yesterday - cause of death (not likely) or capture (not any time soon). I hate to be in the position of having to chew over the same cud every day. I'm waiting for the slip ups that oftentimes lead to the capture of fugitives who depend on others for their flight.

I've been a crime buff for years, seen probably thousands of accounts of murders and mayhem wrought over the course of the last couple of hundred years. Where fugitives have been caught and subsequently interviewed, I've yet to hear of the majority confessing they had all kinds of fun and would love to do it again. Well, maybe only Robert Durst with his multi-million dollar nest egg. The others got away for hours, a day, a few days, a month, before LE found them in a field somewhere covered with ant bites and begging for water. A few have made it for as many as 20, 30, 40 years, but they weren't allergic to work and were savvy at finding ways to create new identities. Without outside help, they understood how to mimic a low key existence and fly under LE's radar. Still, they lived a paranoid's life of fear; they were caught. They slipped up.

I have questions. Shortly after the slapping incident on Aug. 12th and being a thread away from being arrested and spending at least a night or two in jail, the intimation is that everything was all kiss kiss, we're fine, everything's good. I don't buy it. Had it not been for schmoozing the cops, Brian would have been in the LAST place he'd want to be. Not on the road singing in the wilderness and melding with the wide open spaces. Not going barefoot in the grass and scrambling over hill and dale. Brian was looking at four walls, iron bars and a possible domestic violence charge in a land far, far, from home. I think the experience scared the living s*** out of him.

Shortly afterward, he's calling home, unloading his recent near miss on his familial benefactors, flying back home and shifting her gear in or out of the house. They spend a few hundred on plane fare to consolidate the goods and save on locker rental? They're loaded! What's a few hundred rental bucks to them when they can spring for plane tickets at the drop of a hat? It seems to me the Laundries have no problem circling the wagons when poked in a bad way by fate or bad behavior that bites them unexpectedly on their derrieres. I believe they called him home to formulate a plan to get Gabby out of ALL of their lives once and for all. Move her stuff wherever, finish out the last leg of the Magical Mystery Tour, bring her home, then kick her out for good. After all, she almost got him ARRESTED! That's the last straw. Of course, none of this was disclosed to Gabby. Let's play pretend until she hits the front door. Then, its - hit the road.

Nothing like an argument about we're almost out of water to lead to spilling his guts about he and his family's being finished with her b***s*** and ready to pitch her out upon their arrival home. Imagine being told THAT when you're 2300 miles from home. If that doesn't qualify for a fistfight, nothing does. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face, mentally or physically. This battling couple fought it appears - to her death. And don't think Brian didn't tickle the apron strings he depends on. He called home and they prepared. The rest you know. Plan B formulated on the fly.

So, I'm waiting patiently for mistakes. When the secrets come to light, its going to be interesting how right or wrong we've all been - ultimately, all of it is going to be a lesson for young girls and boys about choosing their partners more carefully and taking their time before they commit their hearts and minds to people whose depths they've not mined.
MOO
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I was thinking of Robert Durst just this morning. Here is a multi millionaire on the run of LE and he's caught stealing a sandwich from a grocery store with something like $15,000.00 in his car.

He had the kind of money to really disappear and yet a simply stupid petty crime caught him. Thank goodness he's no longer able to harm anyone else for the rest of his life.

But it then brings up BL. He can run but he can't run forever, he will eventually find himself out of the supplies he needs to continue running. It may lead to him starting a life of petty crimes, crimes that seem easy to commit but could get him randomly caught just like Robert Durst did.

It may be coming to that point now or very soon. I don't believe his parent's or sister (if she's involved at all) can assist him any longer. They are under a microscope, and I believe everything they do or say is being watched and listened to very closely. jmo
 
TheGardener said:
Good Morning WS Buds! After reading through most of the postings here, and weighing out what's been reported and what LE has verified, I'm more or less waiting for the same two announcements I was waiting for yesterday - cause of death (not likely) or capture (not any time soon). I hate to be in the position of having to chew over the same cud every day. I'm waiting for the slip ups that oftentimes lead to the capture of fugitives who depend on others for their flight.

I've been a crime buff for years, seen probably thousands of accounts of murders and mayhem wrought over the course of the last couple of hundred years. Where fugitives have been caught and subsequently interviewed, I've yet to hear of the majority confessing they had all kinds of fun and would love to do it again. Well, maybe only Robert Durst with his multi-million dollar nest egg. The others got away for hours, a day, a few days, a month, before LE found them in a field somewhere covered with ant bites and begging for water. A few have made it for as many as 20, 30, 40 years, but they weren't allergic to work and were savvy at finding ways to create new identities. Without outside help, they understood how to mimic a low key existence and fly under LE's radar. Still, they lived a paranoid's life of fear; they were caught. They slipped up.

I have questions. Shortly after the slapping incident on Aug. 12th and being a thread away from being arrested and spending at least a night or two in jail, the intimation is that everything was all kiss kiss, we're fine, everything's good. I don't buy it. Had it not been for schmoozing the cops, Brian would have been in the LAST place he'd want to be. Not on the road singing in the wilderness and melding with the wide open spaces. Not going barefoot in the grass and scrambling over hill and dale. Brian was looking at four walls, iron bars and a possible domestic violence charge in a land far, far, from home. I think the experience scared the living s*** out of him.

Shortly afterward, he's calling home, unloading his recent near miss on his familial benefactors, flying back home and shifting her gear in or out of the house. They spend a few hundred on plane fare to consolidate the goods and save on locker rental? They're loaded! What's a few hundred rental bucks to them when they can spring for plane tickets at the drop of a hat? It seems to me the Laundries have no problem circling the wagons when poked in a bad way by fate or bad behavior that bites them unexpectedly on their derrieres. I believe they called him home to formulate a plan to get Gabby out of ALL of their lives once and for all. Move her stuff wherever, finish out the last leg of the Magical Mystery Tour, bring her home, then kick her out for good. After all, she almost got him ARRESTED! That's the last straw. Of course, none of this was disclosed to Gabby. Let's play pretend until she hits the front door. Then, its - hit the road.

Nothing like an argument about we're almost out of water to lead to spilling his guts about he and his family's being finished with her b***s*** and ready to pitch her out upon their arrival home. Imagine being told THAT when you're 2300 miles from home. If that doesn't qualify for a fistfight, nothing does. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face, mentally or physically. This battling couple fought it appears - to her death. And don't think Brian didn't tickle the apron strings he depends on. He called home and they prepared. The rest you know. Plan B formulated on the fly.

So, I'm waiting patiently for mistakes. When the secrets come to light, its going to be interesting how right or wrong we've all been - ultimately, all of it is going to be a lesson for young girls and boys about choosing their partners more carefully and taking their time before they commit their hearts and minds to people whose depths they've not mined.
MOO
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I'm with you on the storage, @TheGardener. Makes zero sense to me too. MOO
 
jamicat said:
Around here, you have to sign the contract for a year. But as I said, there might have been other business that needed attention back home. Not unusual to have to return to take care of stuff.

but all opinion. I don’t see a whole lot of relevance to what happened to Gabby anyways because IMO, what happened was not planned. MOO it was temper and loss of control that likely happened. I simply cannot see this guy planning this out ahead of time and going through time and expense to do so. Makes no sense to me. But, possible. Any and everything is until disproven by evidence
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I agree that it seems most likely that it was unplanned, if he made the trip at all.

GP basically FREAKED OUT when LE told her that they were going to separate the two for the night and that she'd be alone with the van. But she was going to be a-ok with making plans to spend a week alone in a hotel near the airport in Salt Lake City? That just seems unlikely to me.

She may have been glad for the time by herself by the time she got to the hotel, but I can't believe it was part of a long-standing plan. I don't think she would have planned it into a trip. I think she would have planned to meet up with friends or something if there was a planned-ahead 5-7 days when he would need to go home. IMO, it had to have been planned after the stop in Moab. I still have my doubts about whether or not the trip occurred.
 
TheGardener said:
Good Morning WS Buds! After reading through most of the postings here, and weighing out what's been reported and what LE has verified, I'm more or less waiting for the same two announcements I was waiting for yesterday - cause of death (not likely) or capture (not any time soon). I hate to be in the position of having to chew over the same cud every day. I'm waiting for the slip ups that oftentimes lead to the capture of fugitives who depend on others for their flight.

I've been a crime buff for years, seen probably thousands of accounts of murders and mayhem wrought over the course of the last couple of hundred years. Where fugitives have been caught and subsequently interviewed, I've yet to hear of the majority confessing they had all kinds of fun and would love to do it again. Well, maybe only Robert Durst with his multi-million dollar nest egg. The others got away for hours, a day, a few days, a month, before LE found them in a field somewhere covered with ant bites and begging for water. A few have made it for as many as 20, 30, 40 years, but they weren't allergic to work and were savvy at finding ways to create new identities. Without outside help, they understood how to mimic a low key existence and fly under LE's radar. Still, they lived a paranoid's life of fear; they were caught. They slipped up.

I have questions. Shortly after the slapping incident on Aug. 12th and being a thread away from being arrested and spending at least a night or two in jail, the intimation is that everything was all kiss kiss, we're fine, everything's good. I don't buy it. Had it not been for schmoozing the cops, Brian would have been in the LAST place he'd want to be. Not on the road singing in the wilderness and melding with the wide open spaces. Not going barefoot in the grass and scrambling over hill and dale. Brian was looking at four walls, iron bars and a possible domestic violence charge in a land far, far, from home. I think the experience scared the living s*** out of him.

Shortly afterward, he's calling home, unloading his recent near miss on his familial benefactors, flying back home and shifting her gear in or out of the house. They spend a few hundred on plane fare to consolidate the goods and save on locker rental? They're loaded! What's a few hundred rental bucks to them when they can spring for plane tickets at the drop of a hat? It seems to me the Laundries have no problem circling the wagons when poked in a bad way by fate or bad behavior that bites them unexpectedly on their derrieres. I believe they called him home to formulate a plan to get Gabby out of ALL of their lives once and for all. Move her stuff wherever, finish out the last leg of the Magical Mystery Tour, bring her home, then kick her out for good. After all, she almost got him ARRESTED! That's the last straw. Of course, none of this was disclosed to Gabby. Let's play pretend until she hits the front door. Then, its - hit the road.

Nothing like an argument about we're almost out of water to lead to spilling his guts about he and his family's being finished with her b***s*** and ready to pitch her out upon their arrival home. Imagine being told THAT when you're 2300 miles from home. If that doesn't qualify for a fistfight, nothing does. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face, mentally or physically. This battling couple fought it appears - to her death. And don't think Brian didn't tickle the apron strings he depends on. He called home and they prepared. The rest you know. Plan B formulated on the fly.

So, I'm waiting patiently for mistakes. When the secrets come to light, its going to be interesting how right or wrong we've all been - ultimately, all of it is going to be a lesson for young girls and boys about choosing their partners more carefully and taking their time before they commit their hearts and minds to people whose depths they've not mined.
MOO
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This is exactly what I think happened. Posted this exact scenario early on. My big question was, and still is, why’d he fly back & why’d they let him? On the promise he’d help her drive back? For a farewell make-love for the last time? Wth did he return to her?

When I posted this idea, LE had not formally ruled out the Moab double homicide possible connection. So I wondered then if BL was responsible & GB was discovering evidence in this regard. But since that homicide is not connected, maybe she discovered BL is connected to another crime. Did he leave a journal/netbook/evidence behind that he needed to retrieve? I just can’t wrap my head around why BL returned to UT if the purpose of his return home was to get space & secure a certain break-up of this toxic pattern. Jmo, moo, etc
 
TheGardener said:
Good Morning WS Buds! After reading through most of the postings here, and weighing out what's been reported and what LE has verified, I'm more or less waiting for the same two announcements I was waiting for yesterday - cause of death (not likely) or capture (not any time soon). I hate to be in the position of having to chew over the same cud every day. I'm waiting for the slip ups that oftentimes lead to the capture of fugitives who depend on others for their flight.

I've been a crime buff for years, seen probably thousands of accounts of murders and mayhem wrought over the course of the last couple of hundred years. Where fugitives have been caught and subsequently interviewed, I've yet to hear of the majority confessing they had all kinds of fun and would love to do it again. Well, maybe only Robert Durst with his multi-million dollar nest egg. The others got away for hours, a day, a few days, a month, before LE found them in a field somewhere covered with ant bites and begging for water. A few have made it for as many as 20, 30, 40 years, but they weren't allergic to work and were savvy at finding ways to create new identities. Without outside help, they understood how to mimic a low key existence and fly under LE's radar. Still, they lived a paranoid's life of fear; they were caught. They slipped up.

I have questions. Shortly after the slapping incident on Aug. 12th and being a thread away from being arrested and spending at least a night or two in jail, the intimation is that everything was all kiss kiss, we're fine, everything's good. I don't buy it. Had it not been for schmoozing the cops, Brian would have been in the LAST place he'd want to be. Not on the road singing in the wilderness and melding with the wide open spaces. Not going barefoot in the grass and scrambling over hill and dale. Brian was looking at four walls, iron bars and a possible domestic violence charge in a land far, far, from home. I think the experience scared the living s*** out of him.

Shortly afterward, he's calling home, unloading his recent near miss on his familial benefactors, flying back home and shifting her gear in or out of the house. They spend a few hundred on plane fare to consolidate the goods and save on locker rental? They're loaded! What's a few hundred rental bucks to them when they can spring for plane tickets at the drop of a hat? It seems to me the Laundries have no problem circling the wagons when poked in a bad way by fate or bad behavior that bites them unexpectedly on their derrieres. I believe they called him home to formulate a plan to get Gabby out of ALL of their lives once and for all. Move her stuff wherever, finish out the last leg of the Magical Mystery Tour, bring her home, then kick her out for good. After all, she almost got him ARRESTED! That's the last straw. Of course, none of this was disclosed to Gabby. Let's play pretend until she hits the front door. Then, its - hit the road.

Nothing like an argument about we're almost out of water to lead to spilling his guts about he and his family's being finished with her b***s*** and ready to pitch her out upon their arrival home. Imagine being told THAT when you're 2300 miles from home. If that doesn't qualify for a fistfight, nothing does. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face, mentally or physically. This battling couple fought it appears - to her death. And don't think Brian didn't tickle the apron strings he depends on. He called home and they prepared. The rest you know. Plan B formulated on the fly.

So, I'm waiting patiently for mistakes. When the secrets come to light, its going to be interesting how right or wrong we've all been - ultimately, all of it is going to be a lesson for young girls and boys about choosing their partners more carefully and taking their time before they commit their hearts and minds to people whose depths they've not mined.
MOO
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I find your assessments uncanny...and very possible.
Again I think you're onto to something...no one flies back to move stuff out of a storage locker to save a few bucks. It's cheaper to pay the rent for two more months than fly back suddenly. If the parents aren't ricj then they are angry at having to bail him out yet again.
I am beginning to think he tossed her stuff in the trash back then because he was angry at her.
I also think the parents are more involved in the planning of her stuff being tossed back then.
This would cause a HUGE blowout if he returned and admitted I already tossed your stuff in the trash.
How would you feel? Someone you trusted throwing away your stuff like trash?
Angry, hurt, the explosive argument would take place.
I can see the parents might not approve of the relationship or not like her but to throw out her stuff like trash is pretty low. (If that's what happened). I had it happen to me, childhood photos irreplaceable items forever gone. It's soul-crushing. It feels like you are being erased.
 
jamicat said:
I agree. The searches of Carlton have been brutal and miserable. Not a place you’d just leave someone and have to go back in to get. The money charges are sufficient to hold him for a while until they can get the homicide case ready. No statute of limitations for murder. And they have him cold regarding ATM use
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True and if he is distraught,suicidal that alone could push him in the wrong direction, I get why they tried to use this to flush him out but it isn't working and it might have spooked him even more
 
jamicat said:
The garage is chock full of stuff. Maybe someone can get a close up of what’s in that garage. There were photos and videos that showed it was completely full.
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We have all plainly seen all the boxes in the garage. Seems to me, if they contain GP's stuff, wouldn't LE know that? Wouldn't FBI know that? Why doesn't her mom know that? And why has it not been returned to GP's family? Strange... Not strange, if it's not her stuff. jmo
 
Did anyone read Lullaby by Chuck Palanuick before this case? Or start afterward?
I'm currently reading it...since BL was reading it on his camping trip it's about a road trip across the country. Just looking to see if anything in the book may have given him subconsciously any ideas of where to hide.
 
FindingJoLee said:
There's probably not a better way to avoid detection for three weeks than to have permanently succumbed to that swamp....doesn't require transpiration or money or someone to resupply your basic needs, just someone to swing by and grab the Mustang. I'm completely mystified about what really has happened -- but being in next realm strikes me as a top-tier hiding place.
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Great way to fake your death and disappear too. I still can't believe all the oddities of this case.
 
FindingJoLee said:
There's probably not a better way to avoid detection for three weeks than to have permanently succumbed to that swamp....doesn't require transpiration or money or someone to resupply your basic needs, just someone to swing by and grab the Mustang. I'm completely mystified about what really has happened -- but being in next realm strikes me as a top-tier hiding place.
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If he killed Gabby, he can go straight to a bottom-tier realm. jmo
 
jamicat said:
The garage is chock full of stuff. Maybe someone can get a close up of what’s in that garage. There were photos and videos that showed it was completely full.
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If those are the things kept in the storage locker I’m kind of surprised the Laundries would bring them to their home!!
They seem to be folks that keep their own things and property in good order.
I wouldn’t think they would junk up their garage with Stuff!
Up north we get spiders and mice in storage lockers. I’m betting it’s cockroach heaven in Florida. Who would want that in their homes attached garage???
 
The glaring blank in the timeline from 8/13 to 8/21 will reveal much when it finally becomes known. Fill in those dates with substantive data and clarity will be revealed. There has been a lot of intimation, none more interesting than a purported round trip flight to Florida by Brian and subsequent property move involving Gabby’s personal belongings.
 
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