Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #51

[ShadyLady]

Well, we don't even know if Brian was there at that point. LE stated that neither Brian or his parents were cooperating with the investigation. They may have asked to speak to him but we don't know what LE was told. Imo

Odd that LE did not tell Laundries we NEED to see Brian, he can hand us the attorney's card, as on the van trip he was the one driving, not his parents.

 

[squareandrabbet]

When DD got defensive about people questioning his credibility that said to me his "sighting" was based on confirmation bias after the fact more than recognition of who he was talking to in the moment. To be more credible, the 911 call would be really great evidence, which it is not.

IMO we can move on here without fear of missing an opportunity to catch BL.

Are we somewhat desperate for leads? Yes. Is this a good one? No.

JMHO

yeah, is he a sound engineer? If he was, then I might put some weight in his opining about voice prints.

If he isn’t an audio engineer, IMO it doesn’t matter what he thinks; he could eeeeeeeeasily be wrong.

 

[wasnt_me]

I am not a lawyer so you need to ask one those questions. I just don't know what they had probable cause of. GP was a missing person and not yet a victim of a crime. The car, I don't know.

I wasn't asking any questions about the law.

 

[MsBetsy]

I'm just saying that the Laundrie family has no legal right to deny LE's request to speak to BL because BL is not a minor child. He is an adult. All they can do is attempt deny LE access to the home.

Yes, of course. If he wanted to speak to LE, they would not have been able to stop him. It was his choice not to cooperate just as much as theirs.

 

[nocommoncents]

IMO, it only takes one of those days. As long as they hired an attorney before anyone was "notified" that is pretty strong circumstantial evidence IMOO. Not fact. Circumstantial as in if you look out of your window and see someone walking down the street with an open umbrella, you can fairly conclude it must be raining. What happened on exactly what dates is very important IMOO.

Well, I don't think many people are disputing that at this point. GP family's calls would have been the point they couldn't not know whatever it is they "know".

 

[LadyL]

If you're hiking point to point, you usually park somebody's car at the end, then drive back to the start, so that when you get to the end, you have a vehicle to drive back to where the rest of the cars are parked. Often called "car spotting."

So there was probably another car driving behind DD, and when he got to the lot and parked, he'd get in that car with his friend and they'd be going back to the start.

thanks

 

[Jurisprudence]

Finally looked at the maps and figured out where DD and his siting were.

The comment about staying on "this road," he could get to California. US 70 runs pretty close to parallel to I-40 (in some places they are one in the same) from the North Carolina coast until it gets to North Little Rock, AR where it heads southwest through the Quachitas toward Texas. I don't think US 70 makes it all the way to California, but it does go to Arizona.

Should any of the report from DD be accurate and BL was traveling US 70, he could be within a few miles of my house right about now. US70 through North Little Rock is a rough area tho, he wouldn't stop. He'd like the Quachitas, but it's nearly deer season and those mountains are crawling with Arkansas hunters getting their deer leases ready.

But, I take the complete opposite way. *If* this was BL, he wants to avoid any road with toll cameras, transponders, state police, etc. In other works, stay off Interstate Highways. I think he wanted "back road" directions. And, in the dark on tiny roads, he may have been genuinely lost. That is of course if this was even him. MOO

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

Odd that LE did not tell Laundries we NEED to see Brian, he can hand us the attorney's card, as on the van trip he was the one driving, not his parents.

They do not have any legal standing to demand to see Brian. As already stated, the parents were under no legal obligation to “produce" him to LE, there were no charges at that time.

 

[mydailyopinions]

I hope this banner creates new tips from the general public who are not into Social Media or the news.

If I ever see a banner like this in the air, I'm going to research!

 

[Chicago54]

I didn't say they needed to search that house. I said they needed to go in there to see if the missing person was in there. The police don't need a warrant if there is probable cause. Gabby's van being outside their house is probable cause to go in and see if she's in there while investigating a missing person's report. The police going in with probable cause has nothing to do with "talk to my attorney. That's my opinion and that's what I was talking about, NOT the police just going in to search stuff. But for what it is worth, they can search if given permission. But they weren't in this case. Still, they have probable cause to walk through there and see if Gabby is there in her home where her van is parked.

ETA, they also took the van, so they had to have either probable cause or a warrant for that, and the police themselves said they didn't identify any items of GP's in the house, which means they were in there looking, so that's the point of what I was talking about, actually.

Thanks.

Excellent point IMO. And wasn’t that address also GPs? Hadn’t she lived there 2 years??

 

[BellaVita]

This is why this case makes me sad...and I think a tragedy.

I think that no one could have kept these two apart. Even though they loved each other, they could just not get along. Violence is NEVER the answer, and can escalate so easily. Couple officers tried to explain that to them.

If it traumatizes you, it isn't love.

 

[wasnt_me]

I'm just saying that the Laundrie family has no legal right to deny LE's request to speak to BL because BL is not a minor child. He is an adult. All they can do is attempt deny LE access to the home.

That's true and it goes back to my point of whether they asked anything about Gabby. Her van is out front. Did they ask if Gabby was in the house? They had either probable cause to take the van or a warrant for it, and I believe they should have also had probably cause or gotten a warrant at the same TIME to look in the house and see if Gabby was in there.

 

[MsBetsy]

Odd that LE did not tell Laundries we NEED to see Brian, he can hand us the attorney's card, as on the van trip he was the one driving, not his parents.

Maybe they did and were given some excuse. It seems obvious his parents were protecting him from the beginning.

 

[Hyway]

Well, we don't even know if Brian was there at that point. LE stated that neither Brian or his parents were cooperating with the investigation. They may have asked to speak to him but we don't know what LE was told. Imo

Oh, and concerning the LE statement that the Laundries weren't cooperating. I think LE is using a one-side definition of cooperation. The Laundries attorney was responding to LE's questions. But the answers weren't what LE wanted to hear. Also, I am pretty sure the main lack of cooperation was that LE wanted BL to come into the station and make a statement. SB, not being the idiot attorney people are trying to paint him as, wisely advised his client not to do that.

 

[Chicago54]

They do not have any legal standing to demand to see Brian. As already stated, the parents were under no legal obligation to “produce" him to LE, there were no charges at that time.

I still dont understand all the legal obligation to produce him, or permission from the parents to speak to him? BL is not a minor! Yes the home was owned by Ls, but was it BLs and GPS legal address? How is LE was denied access to find a missing adult at their legal address?

 

[wasnt_me]

Excellent point IMO. And wasn’t that address also GPs? Hadn’t she lived there 2 years??

I know she lived there for two years, and I assume that means that address was on all her stuff. I thought that if the police had probable cause to believe a missing person was inside a place, they can go in.

The Sheriff of Polk county already said he would have taken Brian in based on the van being there, so that seems like the police then did indeed have probable cause. I can't get over how they can take the van, but they can't go in and see if Gabby is in the house. I don't mean search it, but check for her -- the subject of the missing person's report.

I know they claim she got missing in WY, but who knew that? Just because that's where the last phone call came from? But Brian was there, too, at the time, and then he was clearly in FL next. So why couldn't Gabby be, too?

For all anyone knew at the time, BL could have kicked Gabby out of the van in another state. What they did know was her van, the last thing she'd been in, was at her own residence. That's why I think the police just botched everything from start to finish.

 

[Luna20]

If BL does not already know the cause of death, that changes this entire case dramatically.

He definitely knows. My point is depending on the degree of decomposition and how it reads.

 

[ShadyLady]

They do not have any legal standing to demand to see Brian. As already stated, the parents were under no legal obligation to “produce" him to LE, there were no charges at that time.

Yes...I forgot. But, surely being handed an attorney's card at that point should have indicated to LE something was greatly amiss...I think I read the town has a relatively small police force. Maybe that is why there was no surveillance on the house? Van was not impounded till next day with missing person report? So many details in the case hard to remember them all.

 

[NCWatcher]

leave a car? so he towed a car to that parking lot?

I don't know but see below for what DD said. I thought either he was camped nearby, there was a hotel nearby, or another person in his group was meeting him in a vehicle.

@Angels Advocate transcribed what DD said on Fox yesterday. The full account is on Thread #49.

Here is the beginning

"Yeah, I'm Dennis Davis and I was coming up from Florida on Friday to go hiking the AT. I got up here to the NC - TN area at about 12:30, so early Saturday morning. I was parking my car at a parking lot where we were going to be leaving a car and I had passed the parking lot so I was doing a U-turn to go back to it and as I was doing that U-turn a vehicle approached from behind me."

Here's the link for the video
Appalachian Trail hiker claims he saw Brian Laundrie in Tennessee

 

[Lilibeth]

BL driving a white pick up is what I can't seem to wrap my head around. On the run for 3+ weeks by foot, by vehicle or by boat (train or plane). And when a 911 call gives out a location of possible sighting on Tenn. border, my first inclination is the white truck, did BL make the mistake that our country has been waiting for? So much suspense with BL's search. The white truck thing sent me searching internet for stolen white trucks, and what's odd is a Chevy White Avalanche was apparently stolen in Wake County, NC around 9/30 or 10/1 (date in question). All speculation, with full grain of salt, because I know cars are stolen every day just about everywhere. It's that one mistake that we are waiting for unless of course he is deceased. IMO...

That is a stretch, but I had wondered about the same thing. Here is an article that presumably shows a photo of the stolen truck. Perhaps DD would recognize it. Wake Co. family pleads for return of stolen truck with loved one's ashes inside :: WRAL.com