Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #54

[Periwinkl3]

My understanding was they were fighting over the keys to the van. He wanted to lock it up and both go for a walk in opposite directions to cool down. And maybe Brian was trying to grab the phone because she had hit him right above his eye with it. Two missing pieces of skin right above left eye. Good thing it was not his eye ball.

I wonder if LE will release the photos of their injuries.

BBM: That's what he told LE. Doesn't mean it's what he told GP. IMO his answers to Moab LE were a little too pat, as if he's used to playing up to authority figures. The "butter wouldn't melt" type.

 

[Luna20]

The fact that SB is carving out a defense for BL using Gabbys card when ‘he thought she was alive’ speaks to the point of BL still being alive in my opinion.

 

[MassGuy]

BUMMER

I consider it good news actually, as if he is in fact there, I don't see any chance he's alive.

I want to hear about a development in a location that is nowhere near the preserve.

 

[ShadyLady]

Friday, September 17, Brian Laundrie’s parents reported him missing. That night, deputy first class Steven Sella and K9 Copper went to work.

“We were the very first team to be called out for that due to the nature of the timeframe,” Sella said.

First, they went to the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park where Brian supposedly went for a hike Monday.

We get to the park and the entire parking lot, which is a dirt parking lot, is completely covered in water,” Sella said.

That was only the first of the challenges the team would face.

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Specialized K9 teams scour for signs of Brian Laundrie

I hope those handlers are protecting their dogs from alligators. I will be very upset if a dog gets hurt.

 

[bestill]

Friday, September 17, Brian Laundrie’s parents reported him missing. That night, deputy first class Steven Sella and K9 Copper went to work.

“We were the very first team to be called out for that due to the nature of the timeframe,” Sella said.

First, they went to the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park where Brian supposedly went for a hike Monday.

We get to the park and the entire parking lot, which is a dirt parking lot, is completely covered in water,” Sella said.

That was only the first of the challenges the team would face.

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Specialized K9 teams scour for signs of Brian Laundrie

This really pisses me off to read how much effort is going into the search by humans and animals! I'm not going to say what I think of the ones that could answer a lot of questions and how they are not cooperating because I could be put in TO.

God bless the searchers efforts!

 

[ShadyLady]

They won’t be able to since they didn’t even bother documenting her injuries

Do we know for sure LE did not document? They SHOULD have!

 

[lizzied]

The fact that SB is carving out a defense for BL using Gabbys card when ‘he thought she was alive’ speaks to the point of BL still being alive in my opinion.

so true IMO. good point.

 

[PixieStix]

I am almost happy they didn't find him because he wouldn't have been alive in that reserve at this point. I'm glad that all turned out to be nothing.

They need to find him alive so GP's parents get closure (hopefully) and Gabby gets justice!

 

[SouthAussie]

BBM: That's what he told LE. Doesn't mean it's what he told GP. IMO his answers to Moab LE were a little too pat, as if he's used to playing up to authority figures. The "butter wouldn't melt" type.

I posted an article, at least several threads ago, where an officer said (in an interview) they split them up, and Gabby and BL told the exact same story. So they decided to separate them for the night.

 

[lizzied]

Do we know for sure LE did not document? They SHOULD have!

I watched it too many times. They took pics of BL's injuries. GP gave only verbal description. So i think no. JMO

 

[tiara1972]

Do we know for sure LE did not document? They SHOULD have!

Not sure. There ARE two fed workers unreleased body cam footages. They may have collected that information. And maybe not. IMO!

 

[Barbie619]

Please could someone advise if a lawyer and an attorney are one and the same? Is it just different terminology? I don't really hear 'attorney' used much here in the UK.

I ask in relation to SB, as I've seen him referenced as the Laundrie's lawyer, but then sometimes I see the term 'attorney' too but this seems to be more in reference to court cases I think?

TIA

In the United States, yes. Elsewhere, no in some countries. Both are lawyers but distinctions are made for what they do (e.g. solicitor vs barrister, etc.) Here in US you get admitted to practice law and then for some special cases you get special admission for which you must be sponsored. Without going too deep, I am additionally admitted to practice before certain federal courts. I had to be (and was) sponsored for this and separately admitted (after being admitted to practice) to practice before these Federal tribunals. It's not automatic. Oh, MOO IMO

I realize lawyers and attorneys are interchangeable, but in my mind SB is a lawyer and Tom Mesareau or Dick DeGuerin are attorney's (trial attorney's). SB could never take this case to trial, it's not his thing, JMO.

 

[ShadyLady]

BBM: That's what he told LE. Doesn't mean it's what he told GP. IMO his answers to Moab LE were a little too pat, as if he's used to playing up to authority figures. The "butter wouldn't melt" type.

Surprisingly, not all but a lot of the account they gave officers matched. I dont think they had time to get their stories to match, they were not expecting to be stopped. I believe Gabby. IMO.

 

[kittythehare]

Could he have possibly gone to the Reserve for surrender only to PROTECT his parents? In other words, to give credence to their prior false statements. MOO IMO Just thinking out loud.

If he is in there for a surrender, after the deep, deep, dive these experts have been performing there for 2 weeks, I'm inclined to think he just recently arrived. MOO IMO

He would have had to have communicated with somebody.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

I am almost happy they didn't find him because he wouldn't have been alive in that reserve at this point. I'm glad that all turned out to be nothing.

They need to find him alive so GP's parents get closure (hopefully) and Gabby gets justice!

I understand what you're saying and I do hope the same thing. Unfortunately, even if LE has great evidence, he's lawyered up. He may take a deal, he may get convicted based on the evidence and still not say a word. There's still a chance we may never truly know what happened.

 

[Satchie]

ok....now you have me googling:

Crime of Passion
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In criminal law, a crime of passion is a crime committed in the "heat of passion" in response to provocation, as opposed to one that was premeditated or deliberated. Provocation serves as a partial defense to manslaughter because while it does not completely excuse the defendant of the killing, it can downgrade the degree of the crime, and therefore the associated punishment. The provocation defense serves to recognize that some reactions can be provoked spontaneously, without giving one the opportunity to reflect on his or her actions.

Crime of Passion | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

Thanks that is helpful.

It goes on further: "For example, extreme assault on the defendant or sudden discovery of spousal adultery have traditionally been regarded as sufficient provocation, while mere words have not."
So, in a case such as a couple having an argument, the words of one person can't be claimed to have provoked a defendent into committing a crime of passion.

 

[razzledazzle]

My understanding was they were fighting over the keys to the van. He wanted to lock it up and both go for a walk in opposite directions to cool down. And maybe Brian was trying to grab the phone because she had hit him right above his eye with it. Two missing pieces of skin right above left eye. Good thing it was not his eye ball.

I wonder if LE will release the photos of their injuries.

BBM: I thought he got in the van drivers seat, wouldn't let her in and she crawled over him - that's not going for a walk to cool down IMO; that's attempting to leave her on the side of the road.

 

[TheGardener]

Has anyone asked SB if he's been in contact with BL since he disappeared?
*Not that I expect the truth, but at least it will have been asked.

 

[Jurisprudence]

I've seen a lot of posts on the retainer issue. Some attorneys stating they don't even ask for one. Maybe I should explain why I even raise the question and why it is that I keep wanting to know the date. This is MOO.

A retainer is a contract - sometimes a fee agreement, but it generally indicates the date it is agreed that there will be legal representation, on/for what, at what rate (or by which method) and date privilege established. MOO Most jurisdictions require a written retainer but not all, and it's not law. There must be some date, however, from which the legal relationship for this matter was formed. IMOO.

This date - from which the legal relationship between Bertolino and BL, and the date Bertolino's representation of BL was formed for "this" matter has always seemed to me (IMOO) to be the million dollar question.

I believe "who" retained him, "when" and "why" would tell us a lot about who knew what and when. MOO As I said last night I believe it would shine a Flood light, not a spot light, into the date of certain parties knowledge. MOOO. Not fact.

 

[imstilla.grandma]