Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #54

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SBM: This photo is at least several years old and was obtained from a real estate listing, IIRC. It is no indication of what BL's bedroom looked like while Gabby was living there.

Ah - thank you. So that was pre-Gabby and all the talk about that pillar is nonsense. His well known room (the one on Instagram) could. (I suppose) even be that same room, after he'd been in it longer. There are pictures of Gabby with some of the items that are in that room and she does look younger in those pictures.

My next set of questions would have to do with whether the Laundries planned to host both of them into the indefinite future and whether the layout of the house reflects that. Why did they move the stuff out of storage and into the garage, I wonder? I can think of some nefarious reasons and like most people, can't think of many practical reasons (given the cost of the plane fare and hotel room).

Was there pressure on both Gabby and Brian to live elsewhere? Was the idea that they'd retrieve their stuff...one of these days...when they had launched themselves?

Did that plan collapse in Moab, UT?
 
Respectfully, I disagree. I was responding to a post that was based on this picture and assertions were made because of it. If the picture is not of B's room, then those assertions/thoughts are incorrect.
I didnt say the room wasnt his. I said it was before GP and BL were a thing so would not be helpful in determining how accommodated she was in the home.
 
Um - I thought it was established that this picture was not Brians bedroom and was taken from when the property was last listed for sale in 2017. Or am I incorrect?
https://www.realtor.com/realestatea...o-Ave_North-Port_FL_34287_M53524-94857#photo7

They closed in 2015. CL and Fam lived there. She herself told us this in the Protestor interview. At some point BL and GP moved in too. (They lived with them at Wabasso for "about a year"). CL and Fam purchased home. Parents who may have been in Venice still listed the prop, then took it off and moved in, selling their Venice condo instead. MOO
 
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I don't think she had her own room unless they took away their office off the kitchen and den and gave her that as her bedroom. From the 13 photos (scroll down for those) here taken from a 2017 listing this is a 3 bed/2 bath home. Inside Brian Laundrie's bedroom as Gabby Petito's homicide confirmed

BL's room was at the back of the home with outside access, evidenced by the sliding glass door blinds in the pics of his room and the sun room.

And, CL and her DH stated in her interview with the protestors that they lived at Wabasso with them for a year. So, CL and her family lived in the home with GP and BL before CL and family purchased their new home and before the Laundrie parents moved in. MOO
BL room is in the front of the house the one with the window.... I believe the listing is so old BL didn't even live in that room. BL was in North Carolina the same time Gabby was living there. Even if he did the "gun" hanging on the shelf is a wooden painted gun.
 
SBM: This photo is at least several years old and was obtained from a real estate listing, IIRC. It is no indication of what BL's bedroom looked like while Gabby was living there.

Is it from Florida or their LI house, do we know?

Is the reported fact that the Petitos and the Laundries lived near each other on Long Island verified? It's my understanding that the Petitos moved to FL about 5 years ago, and have moved 3 times since.
 
I think LE knows BL is alive. They are playing close to the vest to get convictions when they do nab him. And his parents and anyone helping him will go down too. Maybe he has/had a gf so he felt he had options and help. He could be holed up in a someone else's home who can walk the street w/o fear of LE looking for them. MOO
 
I think the Laundries knew it was rocky. Unless RD is lying, Gabby occasionally left for her house for a night or two, when they were fighting. No matter how many engagements a couple announces, parents who live with said couple know a *lot* about their relationship. The picture we saw yesterday:

Sleuths think Gabby Petito may be holding GUN in photo as cops hunt fiancé

shows a single bed. Did Gabby have her own room? Or...actually no room at all? Since she had lived with them for 2 years, was this last move (not too long before the Van Life started - and they left from NY)...was this move an attempt to push Gabby out? It's not easy to evict someone, whether they pay rent or not, from their residence, even if their legal residence is somewhere else. Maybe the Laundries were tired of this "engaged couple" living with them? It sure looks like a room occupied by a lone male (as does his other earlier room shown so extensively on Insta, which he apparently occupied until rather recently - I'd have to check the dates).

Anyway, the Laundries had been in this place maybe 3 months, and I see no feminine touches or a comfortable place in Brian's room for Gabby.

That's a big red flag that the parents may not have wanted the couple living indefinitely in their house. Like all couples, surely they had their problems and fought sometimes, but as a parent of adult children, I simply did not want that couple living in my own house. They needed to grow up and go see if they could work it out together (not on the road, though!)

But it looks like the parents provided Brian with a cozy little room. If my theory is true, then Brian's desire to live the Van Life is connected to wanting to be with Gabby in face of his parents saying, "Look, we want a retirement lifestyle, we want our house to ourselves, you can stay if you pay some rent, but Gabby needs to find her own place." Gabby takes the money she's saved up for a potential apartment and invests it in Brian's idea of Van Life.

But I think the Laundries may have known about the issues (just like the high school friends did), and may not have liked Gabby that well. Parents have this habit of blaming their kids' partner instead of their kid. Here on this WS thread, there have been several posters writing about how much they secretly despise their kid's partner, and are relieved/delighted when there's a break up (or even a demise). I doubt that the Laundries absolutely hated Gabby, but perhaps they felt she was drawing Brian out of his comfort zone. They knew, in a way. that she did not, that he could be very difficult and they thought he was best off not having a serious relationship...maybe

So Brian goes home to FL, but then realizes he wants "his" van back. He thinks of it as his regardless of the registration and people here have also said, well he has "sweat equity" in it; they were engaged, it's obvious it was "community property," etc. So he flies to get it, Gabby pleads with him to at least try again, until Yellowstone, she'll be good, won't be so "OCD" and off they go, patching things up as they have done so many times before. I don't think Brian was capable of breaking up with her (for many reasons), but I don't think Gabby was capable of managing him on the road, the way his parents would have tried to do. And Gabby didn't want to break up.

I think van was just the quickest way home. And I highly suspect Brian's mom might have encourage him to run. I could be completely wrong.

But friends said they had been planning together. It was their dream.
And Gabby's father said she had been planning it for 1 1/2 years.

Gabby Petito's Father Speaks Out: The Dr. Phil Interview - YouTube
"The couple shared a love of travel, and when they struggled to come up with cash for hotels or Airbnb rentals, they brainstormed a new way to live: They pooled their money, purchased a Ford Transit van and, inspired by YouTube videos and home-renovation shows, used their artistic skills to transform the vehicle into a small home."
She Was 'Living the Dream': Inside the Tragic Gabby Petito Case | PEOPLE.com
 
I've yet to hear of any case where a Found Not Guilty POI was travelling alone with the victim, fled with a vehicle owned by the victim using the victim's money to travel, and then did another runner. I'm willing to be proven wrong. If he's innocent, I'll eat my hat.
I like to consider myself welcoming to opinions other than my own.
However, as you point out, there are quite a few things about this victim and this POI that lead me to believe that BL is not so innocent.
Topmost is that BL's family did not return GP's family's phone calls. And next on the list is that they apparently retained an attorney on or around Sept. 11 and only communicated through the attorney (as is their right). But the fact that were so tight-lipped just makes me feel like they knew their son was in a lot of trouble at that point.
Next up is not reporting their son missing until 3 1/2-4 days after he disappeared - with THEIR VEHICLE. Seriously? And then retrieving the vehicle a day before they reported him missing. I'm willing to hear the other side of the story when they are able to tell it, but on the surface, this looks bad for BL. JMHO.
 
Gabby Petito told a police officer on Aug. 12 that her fiancé, Brian Laundrie, didn't believe in her dream to create a website and blog, but she was apparently able to edit and publish an eight-minute video when Laundrie left her for nearly a week in Salt Lake City while he flew home to Florida.

The video, entitled "VAN LIFE | Beginning Our Van Life Journey," was posted to her YouTube channel, "Nomadic Statik," on Aug. 19, two days after Laundrie traveled to Florida to close a "storage unit to save money," according to his lawyer, Steven Bertolino. During an interview with Dr. Phil, Petito's family attorney Richard Stafford suggested Laundrie stole Gabby's credit card to fund the flight.

Petito's inaugural blog video was a recap of the couple's first weeks on the road and has now been viewed more than 5 million times. She also documented her travels on her Instagram account, and was in the process of creating her own website before she was killed.
Gabby Petito's YouTube video posted while Brian Laundrie left her in Utah
 
Sorry if I'm misinformed. I can't keep up with these threads.

Please tell me that this "ramped up" search has nothing to do with the L's changing the date of the disappearance. What difference could this possibly make?

Also, please tell me that the searchers didn't just find out exactly where the mustang was parked and are now searching that area. I might be misinformed, but it seems like some posts are implying that. Surely, this level of incompetence is not possible.

I actually searched for the carlton reserve on google maps and couldn't really find it. It took me to a "pinned" trailhead, or something, but I couldn't determine the boundaries of the carlton reserve. My best guess was that carlton is connected to, or part of, the larger mykatta(sp?) Park or reserve?

JMO
 
BL room is in the front of the house the one with the window.... I believe the listing is so old BL didn't even live in that room. BL was in North Carolina the same time Gabby was living there. Even if he did the "gun" hanging on the shelf is a wooden painted gun.
Disagree, Entin was always incorrect in his guess IMO. Look at Photos. Very clear his room had the sliding glass door to the sunroom. MOO
 
Bringing this over from the previous thread with the updated information. Since I originally posted it, @Chicago54 supplied the 911 calls and @Sprigs supplied the 9/14th statement made by SB.

I also added in the additional statement released by SB on 9/15 and added a link to the redacted missing persons report filed on 9/17 for BL. I feel like we've filled in some gaps, but I don't know how helpful it is overall, at least at the moment.

The sources cited are from Twitter-verified reporters in an attempt to ensure accuracy of the text messages. Where there wasn't a text to cover the date, I tried to use police records fill in the gap. The idea was to only use information given directly from the attorney from the Laundries or LE to keep out any potential misleading information in media reports. I just copied and pasted the message, but if someone knows how to quote messages from previous threads or direct me to the instructions - that'd be fabulous.

8/17 - BL flies to Tampa from SLC to obtain "some items and empty and close storage unit to save money as they contemplated extending road trip." (10/5 Text from SB to Jorja Roman; Source: Jorja Roman Twitter)
8/23 - BL returned to SLC to rejoin GP. (Source: Jorja Roman Twitter)
9/1 - BL stops at CL's home before returning to parent's home. (Source: Justin Schecker Twitter.)
9/1 - License plate reader confirms the van entered the city of North Port at approximately 10:26 a.m. (Source: Search Warrant.)
9/4 - BL opens account with AT&T and purchases a new phone, which is the phone he left at home when he went on a hike on 9/14* (Note: References to the hike on 9/14 have been left as originally stated. It is also worth noting that at 2:25 p.m., SB stated he never confirmed the date the phone was purchased because he did not know the specific date, only that a phone was purchased and it was left at home. At 6:21 p.m., he'd apparently received the specific information and was able to confirm. 9/29 Text from SB Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter.)
9/6 - 9/7 BL and parents check in at FDS campground. (9/28 Text from SB; Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter.) (Note: Cassie Laundrie confirmed she also visited the campgrounds with the family on 9/6 in an interview outside her home; Source: Brian Entin Twitter)
9/10 @ 15:58 and 18:29 (3:58 and 6:29 p.m.) - NPPD record shows two separate phone calls received for public service at Laundrie residence. Reported "problem settled." All other information redacted. (Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter.)
9/11 - Van was located at Laundrie residence in Florida. BL's parents refused to allow BL to speak with LE and directed officers to speak with their attorney. (Source: Search Warrant.)
9/11 - Three separate 911 called placed at Laundrie family home at 1:12 p.m. (follow up/investigation), 4:38 p.m (follow up/investigation) and 8:28 p.m (agency assist). (Source: The U.S. Sun.)
9/13- In an amended statement, SB states BL's parents now believe he left to hike Monday, September 13, not the 14th as previously stated. (Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter)
9/13 - SB speaks to BL. It is unclear whether he spoke to BL before or after he went hiking to know whether he would have been the last person to actually speak to BL before he essentially disappeared. (9/28 Text from SB; Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter.)
9/14 - NPPD police report related to an abandoned vehicle at 6968 Reisterstown Road, which is the location of Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park. (Source: Your Sun.)
9/14 - Police return to Laundrie home. (Source: The U.S. Sun.)
9/14 - SB releases statement on behalf of Laundrie family addressing the search for GP and the "extremely difficult time for both the Petito family and the Laundrie family." He further states the Laundrie family will be "remaining the background at this juncture and will have no further comment." (Source: Justin Schecker Twitter.)
9/15- Mustang returned to Laundrie home. (Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter.) (Note: The attorney confirms this on 10/5, but this was also pointed out in a live stream by Brian Entin prior to SB's text. It was also reported by Your Sun that the parents stated they picked up the car the next day.)
9/15 - Police return to Laundrie home. (Source: The U.S. Sun.)
9/15- SB releases statement related to "Laundrie family" and why they have not made a statement or spoken to LE. He states at the advice of counsel, Mr. Laundrie is not speaking on this matter. (Note: First interesting point, the statement is from counsel for the "Laundrie family," but specifically addresses BL's silence. I'm curious as to what made him decide he needed to issue a more detailed statement regarding BL and not the parents. Second interesting point, this statement was released after BL was purportedly missing but before they'd actually reported it and doesn't seem to give any indication that no one knows where is. What changed between the 9/13 conversation and 9/17?) (Source: Justin Schecker Twitter.)
9/16 - Police return to Laundrie home. (Source: The U.S. Sun.)
9/16 - Brian Entin reports Laundrie residence is very quiet, beginning to think BL and parents left. Police stated again they know where BL is but won't elaborate. (Note: Obviously he wasn't in the house, but thought it was relevant to note that LE stated they knew where BL was.) (Source: Brian Entin Twitter.)
9/17 - BL's parents report BL as missing person. (Source: Your Sun; Report.)
9/17 - Police return to Laundrie home twice. (Note: Presumably one of these instances is related to BL's parents reporting him missing.) (Source: The U.S. Sun.)
9/19 - SB releases statement: "The news about Gabby Petito is heartbreaking. The Laundrie family prays for Gabby and her family." (Note: SB has been very consistent in referencing BL and his parents separately. The wording of this implies the entire Laundrie family. At this point, BL has been reported missing, so I would have expected it to say Chris and Roberta or something identifying them apart. I can only guess he phrased it this way in an attempt to garner some sympathy for ALL of his clients, even though he would have no clue whether one of them was praying for her family or not, because he was missing.)(Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter.)
9/20 - SB schedules and later cancels press conference pursuant to his conversation with FBI. (Source: Shannon Clowe Twitter and Shannon Clowe Twitter.)
9/23 - SB confirms: "The Laundrie's went to Orland to meet with their attorney." In a separate text, he clarified the attorney they met with was him. (Note: This is unrelated to BL, but I wanted to put it in to sort of show how SB refers to his clients and why I feel like the 9/19 statement about the "Laundrie family" was intended to include BL, despite having reported him missing.) (Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter and Shannon Clowe Twitter.)
9/26 - FBI return to Laundrie residence. SB stated the FBI "requested some items belonging to Brian Laundrie to assist them with DNA matching and Brian's parents provided the FBI with what they could." (Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter.)
9/27 - Five 911 calls made from Laundrie home 8:06 a.m., 8:28 a.m, 1:29 p.m., 2:45 p.m., 4:13 p.m., 5:10 p.m. (Note: The article was published on 9/30 and states most recent records show calls made on Monday, so I'm assuming it means Monday 9/27. It does not indicate whether police responded to the calls.) (Source: The U.S. Sun.)
9/27 - SB releases statement: "Chris and Robert Laundrie do not know where Brian is. They are concerned about Brian and hope the FBI can locate him. The speculation by the public and some in the press that the parents assisted Brian in leaving the family home or in avoiding arrest on a warrant that was issued after Brian had already been missing for several days is just wrong." (Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter.)
9/30 - FBI return to Laundrie home to collect personal items belonging to BL to assist canines in search for Brian. (Source: Eileen Lepahmer Twitter.)
10/1 - SB states Cassie Laundrie saw her brother on 9/1 and 9/6.)
10/5 - SB confirms he only represents BL, CL (father, not sister) and RL. (Source: JB Twitter)
10/5 - SB amends original date parents last saw BL. He now states they believe he left to hike Monday, September 13. (Source: Jossie Carbonare Twitter)

Here's my revised theory given the above information:

There are really only two unaccounted-for dates, 9/12 and 9/13. I've been waiting for SB to come out and say they were mistaken about the date.

First, I can't recall when SB originally said the parents picked up the Mustang, but I remember there being confusion over when the Mustang was actually returned. However, it always struck me as odd that he went hiking on the 14th and the report of an abandoned car was filed on the 14th. If the car was parked somewhere illegally, like not in a dedicated parking space, then you would assume the vehicle would have been towed and/or received a citation, but that wasn't the case. It also doesn't make sense to assume a vehicle is abandoned after sitting there for less than a day. The abandoned car reported seemed to indicate the car had been there for longer than a day.

Second, SB said that BL and his parents went to other places on two different dates the following weekend but did not give the dates. There's a reason for that. I don't know what it is yet, but it's a big one. I think you can automatically rule out the 10th due to the police responding to the home on two separate occasions. You can rule out the 11th due to LE retrieving the van that day and asking to speak to BL but being refused.

That only leaves the 12th and the 13th. Wherever they went on those two dates is going to be key. He has confirmed all other dates, but those two dates. He left those vague and he didn't volunteer the info on where they went. When it came out they had visited the park, he was quick to say the dates they were there to make it seem like no big deal. If the places they went on the two dates after that weekend were no big deal, then why not go ahead and put that out there? Now all of a sudden they're backtracking on the actual date he went missing and it's because they're trying to get ahead of something that is going to come out at some point.

ETA: I have this feeling that BL will only be "missing" long enough for SB to determine what kind of case has been built against his client. There's not a single person, short of the interviews that Cassie has given in the last couple of days, urging BL to come forward or desperately seeking the public's help in locating him.

Second Edit - Added in 911 calls from The Sun report. If anyone has an actual list of the incidents with more details, that would be great.
Fantastic timeline.
Here is the link with the images of the redacted 911 calls. Does anyone know if they can be found intact? Also, would we need a FOIA to get ones prior to the10th and after the27th?

Brian Laundrie manhunt: Dozens of police calls to Florida home after Gabby Petito was last seen
 
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