Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #57

[LRinCA]

I can't quote this post because it's in an older thread. That said, I hope I'm approaching this correctly. It's an interesting post and I have a question, if I may, about this scenario. I'm assuming I can tag by using the "at" sign and the WebSleuths name so I'll try that along with a link back to the post.

@Cinna

Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #56

My question is about this portion of your post (BBM as well as italicized):

Brian and Gabby argue and Brian tell her he is going on a solo hiking trip. Gabby threatens to leave him if he does. She has a friend she was planning to meet up with. He goes anyway.

Brian returns and Gabby is gone. He's still angry at her parents, angry at her and takes off for home.

In the meantime, Gabby is murdered by some stranger. <modsnip>

In your scenario, are you referring to Brian leaving from Salt Lake City to return back to Florida (for the storage move out) or are you referring to Brian leaving from Wyoming after the return from Florida?

I'm interested in looking at all angles and one reason your scenario piqued my interest is because I've done a little reading about an escaped sexual offender who was finally captured in Utah.

All MOO or my own curiosity because I'm trying to reconcile there being a valid reason why Brian could have returned home and left Gabby behind.

Note: I'm going to report this for the mods to make sure I have brought a quote over correctly from another thread. I thought it was a good post and I wish I had seen it when I could have replied on that thread.

 

[Lillymac]

@Lillymac This link has one photo that shows the trees and the cross with the creek in the background that I had not seen before for I, too, have spent hours searching for photos of the WY Crime Scene.
Harrowing Gabby crime scene pics from camp where body found are revealed[/QUOTE]
@DeDee
I am interested because the general belief was that the death happened one place and BL relocated her. But after remarks made by her step dad, it sounds like they think she and BL were camping in the spot where her body was found. And everything happened there. He spoke of a fire circle made from rocks and that's what I wanted to see a picture of. But, I couldn't find it.
I'm also interested in how quickly it seems the crime scene was processed. It makes me think she was maybe buried or covered up, at least somewhat and there wasn't any animal activity. They didn't spend time looking for scattered evidence to my knowledge. And seems they were able to move her intact. All this is speculation based on what I can find reported, but I think it could throw some light on what happened. E.g. a fight between them, rage, premeditation. I hope answers come from the autopsy results because I'm not sure even if BL is alive and caught, he will talk.

 

[customCF]

Question Bc I’m surely no gator expert haha. Do you think if a gator got him, that there wouldn’t be some trace of him? A backpack, etc. that the gator was like nah bro that doesn’t seem like it’d be that good? Lol.

IF a gator/croc got BL; it could be easily explained as his body is trapped underwater somewhere not visible, maybe he didn't have anything on him to come loose to float away or be on the ground where he was got.
MOO / Speculation

 

[shotgun09]

I just re-watched the Brian Entin interview with Josh from the NPPD, regarding the 'questionable' surveillance of BL

at one point Josh (NPPD) asks Brian Entin ( news reporter)..." why didn't YOU see him leave....?"

Not a good look for NPPD, sorry

Brian Entin
@BrianEntin
Highlights from today’s North Port Police interview: -police are “working to figure out” how Laundrie vanished and say “no investigation is perfect.” -nothing related to Brian has been found in the swamp. -they are calling circumstances around parents story “a lot of oddness.”

 

[LRinCA]

I was chatting with a friend today. She and her husband were exploring Grand Tetons a couple of days ago, part of a national parks road trip. She said they took a tour with a small group and at one point the driver stopped and said, "this is the area where they found Gabby Petito's body." I kid you not.

It's now a stop on the tour.

MOO.

IMHO, that's abhorrent.

Editing to add: but I suppose it's also human nature.

 

[Trooper]

RBBM. Very eloquently written btw. I couldn’t tell here if you were actually asking or just making a point so I figured I’d answer either way. Haha I’m in Alabama & here, it’s not uncommon at all for someone to pay with cash all the time JMO.

Thanks for that headsup.. It's been a while since I travelled there, about 10 years, so... .. I did wonder if Brian strutting around shelling out bills would stick out a bit, so...there's my answer... however, .. now.. who's card... under what name..

 

[Trooper]

This is partly why I think BL is no longer alive. One would think the feds are looking at financial records to see if anyone has any unexpected payouts for something recently; I could be wrong though. MOO
I don't see him as a survivalist either, living off the land isn't a BL trait IMO.

This is mainly why I think he's dead.. The other reason is, his parents don't seem to grieving, yet.. they don't appear to be that keen on finding him dead or alive.... .......that leaves me with a ghastly theory, ....

 

[borndem]

I understand all of that, but without cause of death, we are only guessing at this point. I'm not of the opinion that accidental death involving someone else would be considered murder. We don't have any facts, or even a cause of death at this point to make an assessment.

There is no reason for the M.E. to disclose COD to the public. I think it will be closely held until and if BL is found. If he is found, then charges may be brought. JMO.

 

[Figuring]

What do you all think of the interview with police by Entin today, where they say they've found nothing in the reserve?? I can't help but wonder if that's not true... if perhaps it was meant somehow to convey some pseduo message to the Laundries... it just defies logic to me that they would search so long & so thoroughly without being led forward by any clues?

 

[ninvestigate]

I feel like they failed GP and her family in so many ways. And I know that’s not entirely fair because there are legal constraints, but it just makes me angry that they couldn’t have done more to keep BL in their sights. I hate that he has essentially, for now, gotten away with murder.

My FAVORITE was the North Port PIO countering Brian Entin's question re: losing sight of BL by asking why Brian Entin didn't see where BL went, as he was there at the house.

The "pointing fingers" PR strategy is not a good one, IMO.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

Could it have been the video that the RVers made public with the location of the van? I'm not sure of the timeline, but that was only a few days before she was found.

The edited video of them in the Spread Creek area but doesn’t show the van was uploaded to youtube on Sept. 15. The raw video and the video of their commentary about Gabby’s van was uploaded on Sept. 18th.

 

[customCF]

That's what I'm thinking... that he would have expected her to ultimately be reported missing, but he may have they'd focus on that area in WY/Yosemite (as per fake text), not him & his home. Ostensibly, by the time they found her--assuming it would take a long while, if ever--his story that they broke up or whatever couldn't be refuted & it would have been long enough that COD couldn't be determined, & there wouldn't be enough proof to link him.

When police showed up & towed the van, he may have freaked out that there could be evidence in it, or perhaps he realized he going to be considered a suspect in general (he *seems* not to have been worried about that before the 11th--going bike riding, camping, mowing the lawn...). Would love to know what went on in that house on the 12th...

JMO

Considering how clean the van looked on the exterior (lack of bug splatter), road grime, etc. I would not be surprised if the van was cleaned at some point before the cops took it.
COD; unless quite apparent, could be very difficult to find after 3 weeks of exposure to the elements. IMO

 

[customCF]

This is mainly why I think he's dead.. The other reason is, his parents don't seem to grieving, yet.. they don't appear to be that keen on finding him dead or alive.... .......that leaves me with a ghastly theory, ....

It's what makes most sense to me at least. Even though people think he is a coward (me included) I also don't think he has the stones to serve a life sentence in prison.

 

[ninvestigate]

What do you all think of the interview with police by Entin today, where they say they've found nothing in the reserve?? I can't help but wonder if that's not true... if perhaps it was meant somehow to convey some pseduo message to the Laundries... it just defies logic to me that they would search so long & so thoroughly without being led forward by any clues?

I am surprised North Port agreed to this interview, considering the FBI is lead on this case.

This either indicates: (1) FBI gave them permission to give this interview... which I kind of find hard to believe, considering the way they answered the questions appeared to be very ad hoc and a lot of the answers were, frankly, poor and awkward.

OR

(2) FBI did not give North Port permission... which resulted in the interview we all had the pleasure of seeing today.

As the FBI has declined to release any information on the case to date, it appears unlikely that they would sanction this North Port interview. However, say they did because they wanted to "send a message." Not sure what that message would be after considering the content of the interview, which did nothing except maybe even fan the flames further by describing the Laundrie's behavior as "odd." MOO.

 

[Figuring]

I have thoughtcthe exact same thing-projecting his guilt onto her. Do people do this so they can live with what they’ve done? Who knows?

I read a really great quote recently, from a film director (Jean Renior):

'The truly terrible thing is that everybody has their reasons.'

It's just astounding what people can rationalize so that they can live with themselves.

 

[Lillymac]

@DeDee
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IMHO, that's abhorrent.

Editing to add: but I suppose it's also human nature.

I saw a picture today of a woman and her son posing as they put flowers on the cross.

 

[ninvestigate]

That’s what stands out to me from the Twitter link someone posted a few minutes ago, with the interview by Brian E. & local LE. You get the sense that LE is taken aback that they trusted the attorney and parents when they said BL was at home, and now they aren’t sure if they actually had him under surveillance at all, or just were watching his parents’ house, assuming he was inside. MOO

To your point, I have yet to see concrete evidence ("proof") beyond that of the police statements that they did, in fact, "know where BL was." There was some challenges to this a few weeks back, prompting local LE to say they had, in fact, seen BL. However, no additional details were made available (or I've somehow missed them, despite breathingeatingsleepingliving this case.) If "eyes were on" BL we still do not know when, by whom, where and for how long. This still leaves a lot of opportunity for BL to have slipped away long before anyone realized. MOO.

 

[customCF]

What do you all think of the interview with police by Entin today, where they say they've found nothing in the reserve?? I can't help but wonder if that's not true... if perhaps it was meant somehow to convey some pseduo message to the Laundries... it just defies logic to me that they would search so long & so thoroughly without being led forward by any clues?

Could any of this be a CYA attempt. MOO
Even if they were looking for a phone or other smaller objects; how would you find that from a helicopter or a drone.
They're looking for a body (dead or alive) or trying to make up for not doing enough to start with. MOO
They seem to admit themselves they could have done better.

 

[blackbeary]

I can't quote this post because it's in an older thread. That said, I hope I'm approaching this correctly. It's an interesting post and I have a question, if I may, about this scenario. I'm assuming I can tag by using the "at" sign and the WebSleuths name so I'll try that along with a link back to the post.

@Cinna

Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #56

My question is about this portion of your post (BBM as well as italicized):

Brian and Gabby argue and Brian tell her he is going on a solo hiking trip. Gabby threatens to leave him if he does. She has a friend she was planning to meet up with. He goes anyway.

Brian returns and Gabby is gone. He's still angry at her parents, angry at her and takes off for home.

In the meantime, Gabby is murdered by some stranger. <modsnip>

In your scenario, are you referring to Brian leaving from Salt Lake City to return back to Florida (for the storage move out) or are you referring to Brian leaving from Wyoming after the return from Florida?

I'm interested in looking at all angles and one reason your scenario piqued my interest is because I've done a little reading about an escaped sexual offender who was finally captured in Utah.

All MOO or my own curiosity because I'm trying to reconcile there being a valid reason why Brian could have returned home and left Gabby behind.

Note: I'm going to report this for the mods to make sure I have brought a quote over correctly from another thread. I thought it was a good post and I wish I had seen it when I could have replied on that thread.

I am wondering how he racked up 1k charges in a few days on another person's dime. What did he purchase? Did he fly back home After Gabby passed away?
Moo

 

[DeDee]

I had received permission to post a video of an interview with the Chief Medical Examiner in Wisconsin I think (not sure). Oviedo put it on the media thread. It is very interesting. He spoke of 2 autopsies. Preliminary with the coroner then GP being transferred to either a local university, a military base, or possibly even Quantico for a second autopsy by forensic specialists. It was very interesting IMO. Worth watching. MOO

Maybe I am the only one who has not seen the video you posted of the Medical Examiner who spoke of Gabby's body having two autopsies although I've spent the last hour searching, googling and also perusing the Media thread for videos posted by Oviedo. Wish me better luck tomorrow

 

[MassGuy]

To your point, I have yet to see concrete evidence ("proof") beyond that of the police statements that they did, in fact, "know where BL was." There was some challenges to this a few weeks back, prompting local LE to say they had, in fact, seen BL. However, no additional details were made available (or I've somehow missed them, despite breathingeatingsleepingliving this case.) If "eyes were on" BL we still do not know when, by whom, where and for how long. This leaves a lot of opportunity for BL to have slipped away long before anyone realized. MOO.

Yeah. For all we know, law enforcement was surveilling the house based on the belief he was there.

I think it's more likely than not, that he was at another location at that point.