Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #60

[jjonez]

Did GP ever live with JP in Florida?

I don’t know that she did. Many young people continue to use a parental address as their address of record. I’m interested in determining GP’s address of record. These are merely possibilities. Moo

 

[Angels Advocate]

But 5 days for just that?

I think they are holding it open, 5 days is just a very very rough estimate. Don't hold a court to anything. Once they find BL and he is arrested, and starts talking, they will charge him with everything possible. Depending upon so many factors yet to be determined, if he pleads guilty to her murder, etc. and many other things; they will adjust the trial timing. It's nothing to read into now. IMO

 

[lilithblue]

But 5 days for just that?

It's a placeholder for those days. I highly doubt it would take that long for what he's currently charged for, but if you don't schedule and it runs longer, you run the risk of having to reconvene at a later date, breaking up the trial. I'm not a criminal defense attorney, but that's how we schedule trials in our field. We also know which attorneys tend to be long-winded, and schedule accordingly.

 

[ShadyLady]

I'm confused now. I thought JP heard (but I don't recall how he knew) the van was back home and that's what prompted him to call LE for a welfare check on/around Sep. 10, which check didn't find GP at the L home but did confirm the van and either saw or was verbally told by the Ls that BL was back too, and so the Petitos responded by filing the missing person report.

Several folks have said that LE was who told the Petitos the van was back, so my question then is -- how did LE originally learn the van was back, if not from the Petitos? The Ls certainly didn't call LE to report that...

MOO

That's interesting. Why havent the 911 calls from Laundries been released?

 

[Keyedin]

I have searched and searched for any other footage taken on 9/12 and 9/13. It does not appear that any news stations actually broadcasted live outside the home before the 6 p.m. broadcast by Fox 13. I did find an additional video from WFLA that included an interview with a neighbor, but the live broadcast was an evening broadcast and not in front of the home so the time in the bottom of the screen doesn't reflect the time they actually spoke with the neighbor, which was during daylight hours.

So what we know as of right now for the 13th is:

There are pictures from the Daily Mail of CL mowing his lawn (ridiculous I know, but they do show the driveway sans Mustang) and we can assume it was before 3 p.m.

There is video footage from Fox 13 and WFLA's evening broadcasts on 9/13 that show clips of interviews with neighbors that I can only assume were taken earlier in the day on the 13th since it is clearly daylight outside.

The Fox 13 interview of the neighbor shows footage of the Laundrie home and there's standing water at the end of the driveway, so I assume that's post-rain.

WFLA's clip is from their 11 p.m. broadcast and also shows wet roads, so I'm assuming that's post-rain too. However, there's also no Mustang shown in the recording.

Without a way to verify the actual interview time, it doesn't help to narrow down the window any more than what we already have, which is the Mustang was definitely gone before 4 p.m., which is when the Daily Mail article was published with the photos of CL working in his yard. I think it's also safe to narrow that down even more when we take into consideration that articles aren't published as soon as the photo is taken and that it was reported to be 91 degrees at noon in North Port on the 13th, but without any solid evidence on the time the photos were taken, I guess we just leave it at 4 p.m.

We know the park is open from 6 a.m. to sunset.

We know it rained off and on from about 3:00 p.m. to about 7:15 p.m.

We know that the Dodge truck was in the driveway as of the Fox 13 6 p.m. broadcast and had been moved before the 10 p.m. broadcast. One would assume that's when CL went to search for BL, but I suppose he could have went after 10 p.m.

I have not been able to find anything at all, yet, for September 12th.

 

[Nikynoo]

Sorry, I get confused on this issue, probably because I’ve spent more time focusing and reading regarding other aspects of the case:

Does this indicate that the Laundries were calling 911 because the Petitos were demanding answers, or did Brian threaten suicide or similar due to that, and that’s the reason 911 was called?

Could be either. My first choice is that the P's were demanding answers.

 

[Dell]

Missy Bevers was murdered in April of 2016, there has never been an arrest for her murder and the cause of death has never been revealed. LE says it is still an active investigation................jmo

thanks, I did think this may happen here too

 

[SandSage]

I wouldn't be shocked if the attorney is reading here.

At least they'll have @oviedo 's accurate timeline. MOO

 

[blackbeary]

Would you have a source to view that video please? I watched one on TikTok of the Bethune couple and seeemd to show the back door closed the entire time they drove by.

Video shows Gabby Petito's van door closing 3 days after last sighting

 

[CharlestonGal]

Yes and for some reason the Laudries chose not to answer the messages left by Gabby’s family expressing concern for both Gabby and Brian.
Why on earth would they not at least let her family know that their son was safe in Florida? Rhetorical question that we all know the answer to. MOO

On the other hand, Brian may have been smart enough to get a hold of his parents' phones and blocked or deleted all of Gabby's family members. We simply do not know what went on inside the Laundrie home and no idea what Brian told his parents, or when.

I highly suspect Brian still secretly had his original phone and knew Gabby's parents started trying to contact him on the 10th. We are all assuming Brian's parents were ignoring calls/texts from Gabby's parents, when they may not have even received them at all. jmo

 

[jjonez]

Did GP ever live with JP in Florida?

I don’t know that she did. Many young people continue to use a parental address as their address of record. I’m interested in determining GP’s address of record. These are merely possibilities. Moo

 

[Nikynoo]

Hi Nikynoo! Thanks for your input! Would you mind telling us if you are licensed in US or UK? Are you involved in criminal law?

UK, not a criminal lawyer, a commercial lawyer, hence the trademark infringement case. Our case was heard in Los Angeles - it was an eye opener for a UK lawyer, I can tell you that

 

[EvieIvyOver]

This is from previous thread which closed just as I was about to post it.



I've seen that, yes. I have seen families come out and defend their son who committed murder. That's rather common, in fact. The Laundries did a different kind of horrible thing. They ghosted the family of their future daughter-in-law who was literally living with them until their son killed her. Even if their son is somehow innocent and they are protecting him, there is no defense for how they treated the Petito family who was desperately searching for their daughter. They wouldn't even pick up the phone. That tells me they knew their son was guilty right off the bat. The excuse the lawyer gave - that you get accused of things in the US even if you don't do them - if you're a well-off young man in Florida? - no, that's hogwash.

Maybe they do think he's guilty of something--even more reason to zip the lips, I would say. You think they should turn on their son and join your "team"? Wow...

 

[Nikynoo]

Pure amateur speculation...

I feel like they kind of worked backwards in that they knew when the card was used and were prepared to go to the grand jury ASAP once the autopsy was done. I imagine a time of death could be estimated based on certain factors such as decomposition. But this is just my entirely amateur opinion only!

That would mean that they either convened a GJ on the afternoon of the 21st or the morning of the 22nd. Can it be done that quickly? We don't have them in the UK, so I have no idea how they work!

 

[housewife]

Here’s a screen grab from the Moab stop video. Identifying details aren’t visible, but you can see it clearly says Florida at the top.
Source:

Oooo yeah, I knew I saw a large mark on Gabby's upper arm. This screen grab makes it more clear than the video. It takes a lot of pressure for those marks to appear. And remain visible afterwards. Looks fresh. I wonder if she developed bruising later and it just wasn't documented...

But we are not supposed to discuss DV. Edited to add: Could the marks be from her trying to reach into the car while Brian was trying to drive away?

 

[cady]

I don’t know that she did. Many young people continue to use a parental address as their address of record. I’m interested in determining GP’s address of record. These are merely possibilities. Moo

She had FLA plates? If so, Fla address would be on Fla license................at least that's how I think it works registration,plates,license jmo

 

[Nikynoo]

I think they are holding it open, 5 days is just a very very rough estimate. Don't hold a court to anything. Once they find BL and he is arrested, and starts talking, they will charge him with everything possible. Depending upon so many factors yet to be determined, if he pleads guilty to her murder, etc. and many other things; they will adjust the trial timing. It's nothing to read into now. IMO

But will it be under the same indictment or a separate one?

 

[simon magus]

That would mean that they either convened a GJ on the afternoon of the 21st or the morning of the 22nd. Can it be done that quickly? We don't have them in the UK, so I have no idea how they work!

i believe federal grand juries are impaneled for 18-36 months at a time...

 

[ShadyLady]

Maybe they do think he's guilty of something--even more reason to zip the lips, I would say. You think they should turn on their son and join your "team"? Wow...

ha....I must have missed the comments of people defending Brian's parents.

 

[kittythehare]

On the other hand, Brian may have been smart enough to get a hold of his parents' phones and blocked or deleted all of Gabby's family members. We simply do not know what went on inside the Laundrie home and no idea what Brian told his parents, or when.

I highly suspect Brian still secretly had his original phone and knew Gabby's parents started trying to contact him on the 10th. We are all assuming Brian's parents were ignoring calls/texts from Gabby's parents, when they may not have even received them at all. jmo

If he'd kept his original phone we'd be home and dry now.
I note LE have his new phone.
I wonder whether Gabby's number was in it?