Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #64

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

I'm carrying this over from the previous thread in the hope someone might be able to provide an insight (I know it's not easy to always reply when we've moved to a new thread). TIA

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I wonder if anyone can advise on a question I've had circling in my head..

Will the fact that GB and BL were a couple - and traveling together in a confined space - have any bearing on the validity of DNA evidence (as far as it being incriminating)?

For example, would a Defence Attorney just say,

"Well, of course Brian's DNA was on her body/clothing etc - they were boyfriend and girlfriend!"

Is it going to be difficult for the prosecution to prove that evidence of DNA is over and above any that would be found 'natually' due to the fact they were a couple? How would they differentiate?

^^ This is assuming BL is captured and it goes to trial

MOO

I think that is exactly what the defense would say. In my opinion this case is going to be about the lack of unknown or third-party DNA on her. It is virtually impossible to manually strangle someone and not leave DNA behind. If there is no evidence to suggest someone else killed her that just leaves Brian.

 

[EvieIvyOver]

I haven't seen the video that shows GP's body (and I'd really rather not), but I'd like to know more about the orange blanket? Was it covering her completely, including her face? Was she wrapped in it? How nearby were the boots?

Edit: I watched it, but I'm not convinced that's her...idk

I thought Dr. Blue said she wasn't covered when they found her?

 

[NuttMegg]

Gabby was so pretty, had the world at her feet! What did she ever see in this guy? Did she think she could fix his oddness? God bless her!

No kidding. I just cringe when I see them together.

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

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I sure hope we are.

It's not conducive to sleuthing if everyone has already decided that BL is a depraved serial killer, 100% guilty, and should be executed.

I hope those who wish to share other alternative narratives or theories are allowed to do so within the TOS.

JMO

 

[OceanElix]

Since you asked ... the chopper news footage cut out swiftly right before she can be seen.

But the black tarp is covering her , and part of a red shirt can be seen in the second time stamp.

It was inconclusive to me but that's fine --it's bad enough the poi who may have ended her life didn't show the decency and respect to bury her !

Sorry about the graininess of the video, but the news crew were taking a brief flyover and it has been edited, thankfully.
It's enough to show the utter disregard.
I think the prosecutor will have a strong case !

Post # 628 in thread # 63.
Second video at the 0:07 , and the 1:06 -1:09 timestamps.

Gabby Petito → EXCLUSIVE: News Chopper Footage From When Gabby Was 1st Found→KSL5 TV Salt Lake City - YouTube

She wasn't covered her very well, but left in the elements.

Someone said the black blanket may be the tarp that was on top of the van folded up in the drone video ?
I'm not sure so will have to go and check.
Hth.
Imo.

I'm sure this is the edited version, which I believe was amended right away.
IIRC the camera moved away pretty quickly when they realised they were live streaming such a vital part of the crime scene.

Unless someone was recording the live stream I don't think the original is available and rightly so, we should be respectful.


I might have missed the reason for it being brought back into the threads now. I remember it was discussed heavily at the time.
I'll check over the threads, they can move quick.

 

[LietKynes]

Gabby was so pretty, had the world at her feet! What did she ever see in this guy? Did she think she could fix his oddness? God bless her!

Agreed.
So senseless.
All he had to do was take his things from the van and walk away ... free as a bird.

I do wonder if anything of Gabby's that he cleaned out of storage on his brief trip back to FL -- have these items been returned to her family ?
I'd imagine they'd like anything she cherished and handled.
It's all they have left to remind them of her brief time on earth.

Sorry to vent but I'm angry with the callousness and disregard of a precious life !
Imo.

 

[prblythe]

I sure hope we are.

It's not conducive to sleuthing if everyone has already decided that BL is a depraved serial killer, 100% guilty, and should be executed.

I hope those who wish to share other alternative narratives or theories are allowed to do so within the TOS.

JMO

Will be interesting to hear tonight's WS podcast. It seemed to allude that there will be talk about maybe a connection. I've avoided discussing it. Since it is against TOS. I have sat on my hands and kept my thoughts to myself.

Edit for clarification.. tonight is a theory only.

 

[passionflower]

As I see his tooth that could of been corrected with orthodontics and his feet being so flat and turned out which can be corrected; I’m beginning to wonder if there was some neglect? And a child with no friends? An outcast of sorts? No mental health counseling? Possibly anger issues? JMOO

 

[EvieIvyOver]

I haven't seen the video that shows GP's body (and I'd really rather not), but I'd like to know more about the orange blanket? Was it covering her completely, including her face? Was she wrapped in it? How nearby were the boots?

Edit: I watched it, but I'm not convinced that's her...idk

I thought Dr. Blue said she wasn't covered when they found her?

I think that is exactly what the defense would say. In my opinion this case is going to be about the lack of unknown or third-party DNA on her. It is virtually impossible to manually strangle someone and not leave DNA behind. If there is no evidence to suggest someone else killed her that just leaves Brian.

I heard somewhere today, either on here or on the Anderson Cooper interview ?, that there should be DNA specifically at the strangulation site that wouldn't be there if his hands hadn't been on her neck.

 

[Soliloquy]

I'm carrying this over from the previous thread in the hope someone might be able to provide an insight (I know it's not easy to always reply when we've moved to a new thread). TIA

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I wonder if anyone can advise on a question I've had circling in my head..

Will the fact that GB and BL were a couple - and traveling together in a confined space - have any bearing on the validity of DNA evidence (as far as it being incriminating)?

For example, would a Defence Attorney just say,

"Well, of course Brian's DNA was on her body/clothing etc - they were boyfriend and girlfriend!"

Is it going to be difficult for the prosecution to prove that evidence of DNA is over and above any that would be found 'natually' due to the fact they were a couple? How would they differentiate?

^^ This is assuming BL is captured and it goes to trial

MOO

Yes, that's exactly what a defense attorney will say. They lived together in a van. MOO, but I don't think DNA evidence, if present, is going to persuade a jury in this case beyond reasonable doubt. I hope they uncover a lot of other evidence. Edit: A diary of sorts on that drive they found in the van would be nice.

 

[Keyedin]

Will be interesting to hear tonight's WS podcast. I seemed to allude that there will be talk about maybe a connection. I've avoided discussing it. Since it is against TOS. I have sat on my hands and kept my thoughts to myself.

Edit for clarification.. tonight is a theory only.

OOOH where do we listen to this?!

 

[passionflower]

Agreed.
So senseless.
All he had to do was take his things from the van and walk away ... free as a bird.

I do wonder if anything of Gabby's that he cleaned out of storage on his brief trip back to FL -- have these items been returned to her family ?
I'd imagine they'd like anything she cherished and handled.
It's all they have left to remind them of her brief time on earth.

Sorry to vent but I'm angry with the callousness and disregard of a precious life !
Imo.

I certainly hope all her parents get her belongings back!

 

[TGIRecovered]

It is important to remember that we don't know if she was covered by LE before the photog spotted her and we have no information about the placement of the hiking boots. The video is not released by KSL and this information is not in any other news sources as I'm guessing KSL was the only chopper to spot before scene was tented

I can almost guarantee that no law enforcement or official searcher covered her up. That would be a huge no-no.

They would have stayed back until the crime scene specialists gathered every bit of evidence they needed. Pictures and video would be taken of the crime scene, exactly as it was found from every imaginable angle. Her body would’ve been very carefully bagged to preserve trace evidence.

A blanket laid on top of the body would open the door for any defense lawyer to have trace evidence thrown out due to contamination of the crime scene.

 

[ctmom]

Me too and I’m ok with that. I wondered if the video would have given any other clues in regards to if she was covered (with what; trees, blanket, etc.) or buried (hastily, partially, etc).

The FBI is the agency best equipped to bring her justice (if that’s possible) and knows all the details. Reminding myself that’s what matters.

I'm pretty sure that heli footage (showing her remains) is not available to the public.
The KLS TV heli cameraman cut away pretty quickly when he realized he had captured it.
The station immediately edited the footage, eliminating that specific part where her body was seen, from the re-run Footage... I'd say within minutes... if that.

 

[prblythe]

OOOH where do we listen to this?!

Located at the bottom of each thread page. Also here..https://youtube.com/channel/UCSiqBuCJlK1uQqE_nV6ehfQ

Hopefully it is still on for tonight.

 

[LietKynes]

That's because that video doesn't seem to show the actual site. There are more trees around in the actual site from my understanding. It can possibly be seen in other aerial footage of that day where LE had a large tent over the scene, not the canopy in this video.

I was passing along the video linked (also added the post # and linked video) in the previous thread; that the op provided to show the site she was discovered at.
I believe the author of the post felt it is accurate; and is the actual site.

It gives a good picture of the area as well and the desolate feel of the place.
It doesn't look inviting but barren and maybe the reason BL chose it -- if he did ?
Imo.

 

[ce4au]

The black blanket under the tree? I grabbed a screenshot from the video but am still not sure if I'm looking in the correct area?

I tried comparing your screenshot to the photo Jim Schmidt posted where he made that cross out of stones. On the Dr. Phil interview, he said that’s exactly where her body was found. He went into how he asked them where her torso was, where her head was (like omg how heartbreaking…), etc. & placed the cross exactly where she was. I’ve attached the photo, but here’s a link to see it. Idk…that spot doesn’t look like the same spot to me…not enough trees. That’s JMO. I see the black blanket thing…but I’m just not 100% convinced it’s the same spot. JMO tho I could be missing something.

 

[TGIRecovered]

I'm carrying this over from the previous thread in the hope someone might be able to provide an insight (I know it's not easy to always reply when we've moved to a new thread). TIA

. . . . . .


I wonder if anyone can advise on a question I've had circling in my head..

Will the fact that GB and BL were a couple - and traveling together in a confined space - have any bearing on the validity of DNA evidence (as far as it being incriminating)?

For example, would a Defence Attorney just say,

"Well, of course Brian's DNA was on her body/clothing etc - they were boyfriend and girlfriend!"

Is it going to be difficult for the prosecution to prove that evidence of DNA is over and above any that would be found 'natually' due to the fact they were a couple? How would they differentiate?

^^ This is assuming BL is captured and it goes to trial

MOO

I think the most valuable evidence that they could collect from Gabby will be BL’s fingerprints around her neck.

 

[Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats]

I thought Dr. Blue said she wasn't covered when they found her?

I heard somewhere today, either on here or on the Anderson Cooper interview ?, that there should be DNA specifically at the strangulation site that wouldn't be there if his hands hadn't been on her neck.

That is great!

 

[cady]

I can almost guarantee that no law enforcement or official searcher covered her up. That would be a huge no-no.

They would have stayed back until the crime scene specialists gathered every bit of evidence they needed. Pictures and video would be taken of the crime scene, exactly as it was found from every imaginable angle. Her body would’ve been very carefully bagged to preserve trace evidence.

A blanket laid on top of the body would open the door for any defense lawyer to have trace evidence thrown out due to contamination of the crime scene.

It may be the body bag and other equipment, sans the victim. jmo