Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #66

[ericasf]

Another couple of references that I found that may help answer some questions (even if they are from SB)

SB stating he represents BL: https://twitter.com/WFLAJosh/status/1445440682630565888

Will SB represent him if BL died: https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1448706017768919044

 

[FindingJoLee]

Snipped ALOT for brevity, but have reposted below. My responses in italics and red.
Well, then they should have been seen in the actual campground in Spread Creek - where many people had cameras.

Perhaps they were - we don't know what has not been made public.

Yet, the van was only seen about a mile away from the nearest neighbors. Gabby, who doesn't like outdoors, doesn't walk a mile to try and meet total strangers. They are in an illegal campsite and not near any other campers. The Bethunes would have been in that other campground as well.

I'm sorry - and I'm not being crass - but who tours in a van if they don't like the outdoors? The Bethunes passed the van in probably a minute - does not mean that someone else did not turn up after and/or they could have walked to mean G and B.

So there was no way to "leave Gabby". in safe hands that were a mile away. And in the legal campground, everyone can see and hear everyone else.

No - they met up near where she was found

Why did Brian make the turn onto that spur road, and park at a place that is not available for camping - but instead, for target practice and archery? Did either of them know they were camping illegally? They. sure did know that Dyrt.com said to camp in a designated space (or to join up with someone already on such a space).

No idea - is it relevant somehow? Trying to understand your thought process here.

Since there were never any other campers near Gabby, I don't think your theory works. There wasn't even a parking space for another set of campers.

They could have parked nearby?

Why does he not look right next to where their own (stolen) tent must have been? Because I do believe the reports that say there was evidence of them camping at Spread Creek. Did he leave Gabby without a tent, without a tarp, with nothing to sit on? Why didn't he get his flashlight and signal around and call for her? Then, wouldn't he have headed to the other campers (about a mile away) to see if she was there? Why would he just take off if he thought Gabby was socializing (and take her phone, van, and, apparently, all her things?)

No - he left her with the tent and just took the tarp. By the time he returned to the van and started looking and it was getting dark. He was not quite sure where the tent was. Or he thought she had left him? In this scenario - whoever killed Gabby has the tent, tent contents and phone - but wallet was left in van.

Or do you thisnk he offloaded her stuff right there, so she could find it later, took off and ravens got to it? I find that very improbable and I believe she would have been found sooner had he placed her phone and other things where she could find it. Did she have her wallet? Why isn't he willing to tell that? Why hasn't she used her own credit cards - did he take those cards out of her wallet BEFORE she went to socialize? Why?
See above - wallet in van - but I get your point. No Gabby should equal no wallet and if wallet in van, somethig has happened to Gabby.

I am for Occam's razor. He had her wallet and her phone, he had her credit cards and probably her Apple Wallet too.

How do you explain him walking to Colter Creek (he doesn't take off right away, the van is still there) and then hitchhiking back?

I did explain that in my theory - under hiking

Why not just open his eyes and see Gabby (who would have been quite visible) by walking a hundred yards or so and flashing a light - or waiting until broad daylight?
Because he thought she had left him

Wouldn't a. person alert authorities if their fiancée. appeared to have been kidnapped?
Not Kidnapped - she went of her own accord with others (but see comments in relation to wallet).

In this theory, how long does Brian spend searching for Gabby?

 

[Claire182]

BBM
I am looking for the link.
Bertolino was asked point blank during an interview with WFLA who he represented and he answered that he represents Brian and both L parents.
It struck me as very odd.

I don’t know much about US law but is that not a conflict of interest? It is so odd to me also.

 

[oviedo]

BBM
I am looking for the link.
Bertolino was asked point blank during an interview with WFLA who he represented and he answered that he represents Brian and both L parents.
It struck me as very odd.

He probably texted it to someone and that text is posted on Twitter
JMO

 

[Angels Advocate]

For what?

He drove home in the vehicle of a missing person. He used the missing person’s bank cards. He left the trip he had been publicly on out west with the missing person and crossed several state lines to get home. He was seen by multiple witnesses abusing the missing person as well as angrily abusing restaurant staff. At some point the missing person turns up dead. Seems like there is enough probable cause in there for a search and seizure.

 

[Jmoose]

If SB knows where BL is at, does he have a legal duty to report that to LE?

I doubt that he knows, and further doubt that he would have either told them to send him away or is helping them keep him hidden in any way.

 

[r131313]

None of us know if the parents actually have contact with him or not or if they know where he is.

There is no evidence to suggest they are. If there were, LE would have it. Having it suggested they are, over and over, here, has become an excuse to criticize, and even villianize, them.

 

[kittythehare]

Regarding lawyers who represent disappeared clients.
NCbar link
Responsibility to Client Who Has Disappeared | North Carolina State Bar

Pulling Out: When can a lawyer abandon his client?

Pulling Out: When can a lawyer abandon his client?.

 

[Nikynoo]

I was aware of this date but your post makes my mind wonder: If BL is 'missing' does SB have the authority to represent him into perpetuity?

Well, there is nothing to represent is there? If BL remains missing, no court appearances, no pleas, nothing.

 

[customCF]

I guess you mean the autopsy evidence might not prove BL is the killer of GP. But there is really strong circumstantial evidence against BL. He was her long-time companion and driver. They lived together in Florida and there are plenty of pics of them together on Instagram. The van was parked close to where she died in a place away from other campers. People saw the van parked there, which is how LE knew where to search and discovered the body. Even without the Moab and Merry Piglets incidents showing BL's anger issues, a jury might convict just based on BL's proximity to the body and opportunity.to kill her. Add in the fact he drove away without her, which meant he knew she was either dead or missing. So either he killed her himself or didn't care that someone else might have kidnapped or hurt her. He never reported anything about it to police in Wyoming, which makes him seem guilty. A good defense attorney might come up with some scenarios to spin, but that doesn't mean a jury will buy any of it.

Means, motive, opportunity.
BL had the means to kill Gabby.
Definitely had the opportunity to kill Gabby
I would say he had motive to as well. (he wanted to control her and have her all to himself; if he couldn't have her nobody could) MOO

 

[customCF]

I don’t know much about US law but is that not a conflict of interest? It is so odd to me also.

I'm not sure about the actual law but i would say that all 3 of them want BL to not go to prison. IMO

 

[LietKynes]

SB stated that he had been the Laundrie's attorney for 20 years.

It could be as simple as wanting to hire someone they knew well and trusted to handle things.
Or ... it could be something else ?
I'm curious about when they contacted SB and what was said ?
Imo.

 

[Figuring]

There’s a lot of theories floating around and a lot of debate, but I just wanted to take a moment to say that for me, this case is all about Gabby. I want justice for her and answers for her family. I think sometimes it’s easy to get caught up in the what-ifs and could-haves but ultimately this is about Gabby. She was a beautiful soul with so much ambition who I can envision myself being friends with, laughing and exploring the world with—I mourn her and the loss of the light she shown on this world. She was taken from us far too soon. Through her Instagram and TikTok, Gabby inspired me to start living in the moment and stop taking things for granted—that’s what her legacy means to me and I’d like to think she’s smiling down on all of us right now, encouraging us to live our lives to the fullest, however short or long they may be. Gabby, may you rest in peace and power and may your memory be like a field of wildflowers, always growing and creating beauty in this world.

Beautifully said. Thank you.

 

[Bekind89]

Regarding lawyers who represent disappeared clients.
NCbar link
Responsibility to Client Who Has Disappeared | North Carolina State Bar

Pulling Out: When can a lawyer abandon his client?

Pulling Out: When can a lawyer abandon his client?.

Thanks for the links!

 

[Jmoose]

"heat of the moment" Is that what you call something that takes multiple MINUTES to do? Do you think strangling someone to death can be called a mistake? Beyond what we've already learned; we don't know what he did or did not do to Gabby. None of us know if the parents actually have contact with him or not or if they know where he is.
Assumptions are one thing but truth is completely different.

I just keep thinking about the “preppy rapist” Alex Kelly, whose parents got him out of the country and financially supported him for something like 8 years, and that wasn’t even for a murder charge. I don’t doubt that BL’s parents might do this to keep their son from going to prison for life.

 

[Nikynoo]

If SB knows where BL is at, does he have a legal duty to report that to LE?

This has been asked and answered on a previous thread. He doesn't need to report it, but if asked by LE, he cannot lie. Or if he does lie, SB is breaking the law.

 

[ThoughtFox]

I have an alternative.

They meet up with like minded people at Spread Creek. He leaves her at the van or they set up the tent nearby and goes off on a hike (leaving Gabby , he thinks in safe hands. I'm going to add to I think they had probably had an argument too and its agreed to give them both space).

He gets the lift(s) back to the van - no sign of Gabby, the tent or the other people. He spends time looking in the area of the tent, but its getting dark and he cannot find her or the tent. Her phone is going to voicemail - he thinks its over and she has left him, so he decides to drive home.

Let's think like a future jury member. Why would a young woman leave suddenly with strangers in the middle of a road trip planned for months? And why leave behind her own van, credit card, and phone? Sounds like a kidnapping or possibly a murder, so why did BL drive home without reporting her disappearance? Wasn't he worried about her? Didn't he love her? Why is he so cold-hearted? You can see the problem for a future jury member. JMOO

 

[tiara1972]

Question of sorts: If this space is truly about justice for Gabby and no one else, it seems to me, since Brian has not yet been charged with anything directly related to her death, AND much of the information we have is alleged/circumstantial, maybe we could consider others being possibly involved as theories, that could be possibilities as opposed to being focused on only Brian as the perpetrator.

I also believe Brian is most culpable given what we know but we have worked that angle every which way to Sunday on these threads and it is still all weird.

If we open up the possibilities of others' involvement, not just strangers (but not sure we can really rule that out either, given the facts we have), do we maybe broaden the effort to explore ALL possibilities of what could have happened?

OR does justice for Gabby ONLY include Brian as the perpetrator as an option?

OR are we NOT allowed to speculate about anyone other than Brian in this space, since he was named as POI (not a suspect) when she was missing?

If not, that is fair enough. I am just curious (too much, sometimes) about alternate theories, especially since Brian hasn't been charged for this. MOO, IMO, general curiosity....

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

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SB says he personally spoke to BL on 9/13.

I was aware of this date but your post makes my mind wonder: If BL is 'missing' does SB have the authority to represent him into perpetuity?


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[Figuring]

I just keep thinking about the “preppy rapist” Alex Kelly, whose parents got him out of the country and financially supported him for something like 8 years, and that wasn’t even for a murder charge. I don’t doubt that BL’s parents might do this to keep their son from going to prison for life.

That’s the case my mind has been going back to since day 1 that this became public. The only thing I wonder is if BL’s parents have enough dough… also surveillance of things like wire transfers are so much better now. I think Kelly was living the good life on their funneled money in like Switzerland!