Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #67

[Bree1950]

NO WORDS...

I agree! No words!

 

[Warwick7]

Slapping is physical violence. So is pushing. IMO.

Neither should be hitting each other for ANY reason. Leave, breakup. Get help.

I bring it up because jealous issues might have been the reason for the last argument. Not Merry Piglets. For all we know they might have been upset they were serve meat instead of a veggie dish. We dont know.

And as for FBI profilers, the ones on the case that have access to ALL the evidence are NOT on TV and SM doing interviews. That is all about money, IMO.

I do not agree with the slapping either. But that's not what I was talking about, I was talking about why did she in her mind feel she needed to slap him.

At that moment in time he had stole from her (because he wanted to control her).

[He is definitely showing us a pattern of stealing from her].

 

[NCWatcher]

I think they probably knew because they cancelled their original campsite reservation, which was for the 30th/1st, I believe. Why would they do that unless they had received a call from BL saying he was on the way home. Especially if he seemed distressed when he called.

Perhaps they cancelled their Sept 1-3 reservation because the weather forecast for the Ft DeSoto area on Sept 1 was heavy rain and thunderstorms all day ?

In FL a brief afternoon shower is typical. But heavy rain, wind, and lightning? I'd skip camping too!
JMO


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[CharlestonGal]

I think it would be relevant. The DA would ask each of GP's parents how they found out their girl was missing. They would describe how they kept reaching out to BL and his family but got no replies.

It has a lot to do with a 'murder in Wyoming' if the vehicle belonging to the murder victim was driven straight to the Laundrie residence and no one would explain to the victim's parents why that happened.

I don't see what legal point that would prove. Yes, GP's parents could testify as to events that lead them to file a missing person report on their daughter. They could testify that the Laundries did not return their calls. Then what? What do those unanswered calls have to do with the prosecution of BL? That information does nothing to move the case against BL forward. imo

 

[LinneaE]

When/if there is a grand jury hearing for a murder indictment I suspect the Laundries will be called to testify (including Cassie and her husband). If they attempt to plead the 5th I suspect they will given limited immunity to compel their testimony.

 

[NCWatcher]

Opportunity does factor as circumstantial evidence. That is why people invent alibis or are exonerated by truthful alibis. MOO.

Sure. As a factor, not as the sole factor. No opportunity, then no guilt. But opportunity alone doesn't prove guilt. And opportunity as the sole factor seemed to be the context of the post I responded to IMO.

 

[WizardQuest]

Maybe, but bet LE and maybe FBI told them to stay mum. I am just trying to figure out what could have happened. Seven years on and off. No one but Rose saw major issues, and not their first trip cross country...why was this one different...

hmmm...

you're making me think here...

I just finished reading the article somebody just posted in this thread about Rose and her experiences with GP and BL.

According to the article, Rose states that, BL didn't want GP to have friends: 'I'm her only friend in Florida to my knowledge and that's not because she can't make friends, he just didn't want her to have friends,' she said.
Gabby Petito's best friend claims Brian Laundrie was jealous and controlling | Daily Mail Online

When a youtube channel gets big, it gets haters and...lovers.

 

[Cool Cats]

People will jump on anything and make a trend of it. I’m hoping they’re protesting against BL, with these costumes.

I don't know, they seem like the type of people who would help him on the run. You get people like that who will help out people who are on the run from LE. Or who won't report the sighting.

Sick trolls create Brian Laundrie Halloween costumes with laundry and flowerbed

 

[katydid23]

Completely clickbait. As no one saw a confrontation BETWEEN Gabby and Brian. At least that have come forward.

Merry Piglets on Instagram: “Yes, we can confirm Gabby and Brian were in Merry Piglets. We have not deleted any comments or messages on social media. The screen shots…”

I don't think it matters if it was between GP and BL initially. The issue is HIS anger. He is volatile. When a volatile person is angry he takes it out on everyone close to home.

If she went in crying and apologising to the staff, then she was not 'on the same side' of the issue with BL. She recognised he was being out of line.

 

[SMK777]

I don't know, they seem like the type of people who would help him on the run. You get people like that who will help out people who are on the run from LE.

Sick trolls create Brian Laundrie Halloween costumes with laundry and flowerbed

Ugh, not good.

 

[Which_pancake]

I’ve lost my credit card a number of times. The first thing I do is check where it was last used. (That triggers me to remember the last time I had it). Once the missing persons report was filed, I would think the last charge of her bank cards would be one of the first things the police would know about—they should’ve known that it had been used recently after the last contact with mom (along a route from Wyoming to Florida ). I don’t understand why it took so long to take action on that. Wouldn’t that knowledge have been cause to search the house for GP right away? Or even make an arrest. Why did it take so long for them to issue the arrest warrant for the unauthorized use?

IANAL but I don't think police can immediately get access to a missing adult's bank account. I think it would have to wait until they had more evidence of a possible crime. If an adult has just voluntarily disappeared, that is their right and the police can't immediately pry into their personal accounts. JMO

 

[RickshawFan]

This is the type of expert opinion I find irresponsible, frankly. It would be one thing if she were analyzing surveillance footage of the incident, but she is analyzing a third party's unverified account. This is no better than all of our speculation based on the same information, but it has the veneer of being more true since it comes from an 'expert' MOO

The writer of the article is not an amateur, however. She's been working in the arena of sexual assault, serial killers, victimology, profiling.... her entire career. She is very likely sensitive to details that may seem peripheral to amateurs. Furthermore, she already had enough to form an opinion just from the Moab incident. I have no doubt she's considering a whole picture and not just one detail or another. IMO

 

[JayWill]

Sure. As a factor, not as the sole factor. No opportunity, then no guilt. But opportunity alone doesn't prove guilt. And opportunity as the sole factor seemed to be the context of the post I responded to IMO.

I think that you misunderstood the post that you keep referring to. MOO.

 

[Krwiley60]

I am only speaking of what may or may not be deemed admissible evidence in a court of law.
I am not speaking of whether BL is going to be found guilty.

Looking at what may happen (legally) in a court case is not a statement being made (here) about BL's guilt. It is simply a look at what might happen in a court case.

Hence my question, will or won't the Moab tapes be allowed as evidence in Gabby's murder?

I think the tapes will be admissible.

 

[JayWill]

IANAL but I don't think police can immediately get access to a missing adult's bank account. I think it would have to wait until they had more evidence of a possible crime. If an adult has just voluntarily disappeared, that is their right and the police can't immediately pry into their personal accounts. JMO

I think that they could get access once her mother reported her missing. If the investigation showed her using her card at an ATM or business, IMO, they would drop it.

 

[ringbearer]

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I don't think so---here's why-----

Why would this woman remember this couple, if nothing unusual happened? The restaurant has confirmed they were there that day, as the witness claims.

So why would they remember this couple if they had just quietly eaten their meal and left?

Actually, I don't think she did remember them. Iirc, it was her boyfriend, who supposedly has a really good memory for faces, who remembered. I just read the quotes from her again today, and was again suprised that she didn't remember them from the incident until her boyfriend did. jmo

 

[Warwick7]

Perhaps they cancelled their Sept 1-3 reservation because the weather forecast for the Ft DeSoto area on Sept 1 was heavy rain and thunderstorms all day ?

In FL a brief afternoon shower is typical. But heavy rain, wind, and lightning? I'd skip camping too!
JMO


World Temperatures — Weather Around The World=

I wondered about this myself. But then again we're talking about Florida.

It rains almost every afternoon, often thunderstorms, but they are usually very brief to the point that they don’t really interfere with most outdoor activities for very long.

My family in Florida not only are they used to it but they expected to happen everyday.

** Other posters have said that DeSoto storms were very limited from the 1st to the 3rd not anything that would inhibit the camping.

 

[NCWatcher]

I think that you misunderstood the post that you keep referring to. MOO.

I don't think so but I'm certainly willing to drop the issue if you are.

 

[ringbearer]

I am only speaking of what may or may not be deemed admissible evidence in a court of law.
I am not speaking of whether BL is going to be found guilty.

Looking at what may happen (legally) in a court case is not a statement being made (here) about BL's guilt. It is simply a look at what might happen in a court case.

Hence my question, will or won't the Moab tapes be allowed as evidence in Gabby's murder?

Here's the Federal Rule

Rule 404. Character Evidence; Other Crimes, Wrongs, or Acts

Rule 404. Character Evidence; Other Crimes, Wrongs, or Acts
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(a) Character Evidence.

(1) Prohibited Uses. Evidence of a person’s character or character trait is not admissible to prove that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character or trait.

(2) Exceptions for a Defendant or Victim in a Criminal Case. The following exceptions apply in a criminal case:

(A) a defendant may offer evidence of the defendant’s pertinent trait, and if the evidence is admitted, the prosecutor may offer evidence to rebut it;

(B) subject to the limitations in Rule 412, a defendant may offer evidence of an alleged victim’s pertinent trait, and if the evidence is admitted, the prosecutor may:

(i) offer evidence to rebut it; and

(ii) offer evidence of the defendant’s same trait; and

(C) in a homicide case, the prosecutor may offer evidence of the alleged victim’s trait of peacefulness to rebut evidence that the victim was the first aggressor.

(3) Exceptions for a Witness. Evidence of a witness’s character may be admitted under Rules 607, 608, and 609.

(b) Other Crimes, Wrongs, or Acts.

(1) Prohibited Uses. Evidence of any other crime, wrong, or act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character.

(2) Permitted Uses. This evidence may be admissible for another purpose, such as proving motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, absence of mistake, or lack of accident.

(3) Notice in a Criminal Case. In a criminal case, the prosecutor must:

(A) provide reasonable notice of any such evidence that the prosecutor intends to offer at trial, so that the defendant has a fair opportunity to meet it;

(B) articulate in the notice the permitted purpose for which the prosecutor intends to offer the evidence and the reasoning that supports the purpose; and

(C) do so in writing before trial — or in any form during trial if the court, for good cause, excuses lack of pretrial notice.

 

[dshay]

If you watch the actual Red White & Bethune YouTube video direct to a laptop and computer, not a copy of it or using a phone, they slow it down from many angles. You can definitely see the door being closed.

At the distance where you see the black vertical line the video is suffering from the Nyquist theorem, or the Aliasing effect. The cameras processor is likely applying anti-aliasing which for a short period of time makes the object it's showing larger than it actually is, filling in the pixel gaps to make the object look solid.

It's the black ladder. .