Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #68

[ringbearer]

For what it's worth, there is a picture of Gabby holding that flag painted "Gun" g=hanging on the side of that shelf.
I'd say most of what was in that room in those pictures was BL's given everything that's seen in the picture and what we know about BL now

Can you post that pic, please?

 

[Angels Advocate]

Well obviously I don't. Saying RL is a certain "type" because of her appearance, age, income level, and birthplace region generalizes an awful lot. And doesn't tell me how she decorated her house! I can come up with a stereotyped idea about northern women of a certain age I guess but I don't think that's too useful. But thanks anyway. I'll drop the question because it's getting OT.
JMO

I didn’t say any of that. I said it feels to me like it could be RL decor. You added all the other parts in a very strong reaction.

 

[gngr~snap]

Wouldn’t you need a valid credit card to order through instacart?

Yes, as long as you have the number, expiration and 3 digit code, any card will work.
Moo

 

[ringbearer]

Snap! Didn't know that either. Neighbours for 10 years. That's a bombshell

I've heard that, but I don't think we know it's a fact that they actually lived next door to each other for a long period of time. jmo

 

[Sparx]

I missed this thread. Wow! They were neighbors for 10 years!? Makes the Laundrie silence even more unforgivable to me. And the guilt that BL might feel…

I believe that is inaccurate, but I'd welcome a source that would prove me wrong. I think that stemmed from an article that said when the Laundrie's sold their Long Island home the people who bought it were the neighbors of the Petito's if I'm remembering correctly. I googled all I could to find the article that mentions that but came up empty-handed. This is all just based on my vague memory of reading that and not thinking it mattered at the time since when it was posted Gabby was thought to possibly be alive still. Again, I could be wrong, but I don't think the Laundries and Petito's were neighbors in Long Island.

Edited to remove typo.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Another factor is that the Laundries were the next door neighbors of the Petitos for almost 10 years, as discussed here previously. So, MOO, they likely knew each other relatively well.

Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #41

I missed that too. I was just thinking last night about some of the threads I missed when they were flying. I kept waiting for them to slow down thinking-stop!I gotta pee. I thought I should go back and pick up some clues but I got up and wow, this ones moving so fast I don’t dare stop now. This makes me double down with my thinking they all were very close at one time. One big happy family. Gabby’s mom said she trusted Brian to keep her safe. That’s a lot of trust. That’s why she could NOT understand why the Laundries wouldn’t speak to her. That right there was enough to blow her away. No wonder she knew something was immediately wrong. Oh gosh, this is so sad. “Familiarity breeds contempt” is maybe what this whole case is about. Gabby and Brian too.
*
A Cherokee elder was teaching her young granddaughter about life.

"A fight is going on inside me," she said to the girl. It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - she is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, self-doubt and ego. The other is good - she is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith. The girl thought about it for a minute and then asked her grandmother. "Which wolf will win?" The grandmother replied, "The one you feed.”


I love this proverb. I think about it a lot and have come to think some of us are parts of each wolf. I think I am, at least. There is no absolute wolf. There is no winner here. I’m mad and sad and believe all want justice. Gabby was good ~ therefore Brian is bad is illogical. I’ve not thought of Brian as a typical abuser. I think Brian was once a good guy. I do…

 

[bluwaters]

Snap! Didn't know that either. Neighbours for 10 years. That's a bombshell

I believe this was debunked?
jmho

 

[PayrollNerd]

Everything about this search is odd. They do not close down the reserve to the public even though BL could be armed and dangerous. The father being brought to the reserve to search for his son?!
The Mustang being left at the reserve was obviously to divert LE. The parents driving the car home a few days later? Pfft!

Has the FBI even put out wanted posters of BL? Warned the public to be on the lookout and do not approach BL if you see him as he could be ARMED and dangerous? You know, these standard public messages we all know so well?
Something is off and has been about this entire search for him. I am really starting to doubt that they are really searching for him at all. JMO

Yes the search seems odd from a distance. The locals here that I’m familiar with are not beating a path to the reserve. Nobody hangs out there in the summer anyway. We know better. LOL! The people who live in North Port Estates, next to the Myakkahatchee park entrance, are probably riding their horses along the big canal instead.

The Carlton Reserve has multiple entrances and 24,000+ acres. I’m sure the access roadway in Venice is being watched. The entrance thru the Myakka State Park is likely being watched and visitors are being redirected. The Myakkahatchee park entrance has been closed for weeks.

 

[SandSage]

I agree about property. With instacart and COVID, he very well could be at any previously uninhabited location. Squatting, I guess.
A condo or townhouse is very possible. He would need running water, but I think he could get by without electricity, unless for whatever reason it's been left on.
Yep, IMO that's where he is hiding out.
Some location known by him from whoever.
"Close" to parents?
MOO

Yes, as long as you have the number, expiration and 3 digit code, any vats will work.
Moo

Any prepaid cash card will work for food delivery, absolutely. Also - as far as electricity goes, we have pre-paid electric where I live (don't know if all states offer this) but any name can be on the account; you don't need proof of who you are and you can reload the account by phone, app or in person - Florida has EZ pay (I just looked) So, you make excellent points... one would never have to leave the house and could live comfortably, unknown.

 

[Angels Advocate]

I missed that too. I was just thinking last night about some of the threads I missed when they were flying. I kept waiting for them to slow down thinking-stop!I gotta pee. I thought I should go back and pick up some clues but I got up and wow, this ones moving so fast I don’t dare stop now. This makes me double down with my thinking they all were very close at one time. One big happy family. Gabby’s mom said she trusted Brian to keep her safe. That’s a lot of trust. That’s why she could NOT understand why the Laundries wouldn’t speak to her. That right there was enough to blow her away. No wonder she knew something was immediately wrong. Oh gosh, this is so sad. “Familiarity breeds contempt” is maybe what this whole case is about. Gabby and Brian too.
*
A Cherokee elder was teaching her young granddaughter about life.

"A fight is going on inside me," she said to the girl. It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - she is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, self-doubt and ego. The other is good - she is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith. The girl thought about it for a minute and then asked her grandmother. "Which wolf will win?" The grandmother replied, "The one you feed.”


I love this proverb. I think about it a lot and have come to think some of us are parts of each wolf. I think I am, at least. There is no absolute wolf. There is no winner here. I’m mad and sad and believe all want justice. Gabby was good ~ therefore Brian is bad is illogical. I’ve not thought of Brian as a typical abuser. I think Brian was once a good guy. I do…

Love this post and love that proverb. Also think that BL used to be normal although always a bit strange.

 

[BellaVita]

I am getting tons of heat for expressing my opinion here - watch out ! ;0)

It's OK. Because, you know, there's more ways of looking at things than just plain, objective facts that are black and white. Objective facts are very important, but, IMO, using intuition and abstract ideas can often lead to discovery of objective facts that may not have been otherwise discovered. Kind of the way Detective Goren looked at things in L&O: Criminal Intent. MOO.

 

[tiara1972]

Everything about this search is odd. They do not close down the reserve to the public even though BL could be armed and dangerous. The father being brought to the reserve to search for his son?!
The Mustang being left at the reserve was obviously to divert LE. The parents driving the car home a few days later? Pfft!

Has the FBI even put out wanted posters of BL? Warned the public to be on the lookout and do not approach BL if you see him as he could be ARMED and dangerous? You know, these standard public messages we all know so well?
Something is off and has been about this entire search for him. I am really starting to doubt that they are really searching for him at all. JMO

While I think it may be connected to BL, I am also beginning to wonder if there isn't something much bigger going on that we are not at all privy to. Very strange indeed. MOO.

 

[BellaVita]

SBM

That could be taken a couple of ways. Was Brian controlling about her going out with any of her friends or could it have just been Rose in particular he didn't want her to go out with?

What difference does it make? MOO.

 

[LeeJay55]

The condo could.have been a season rental. Most.snow birds rent from.Oct to April. Its a great Income if u have.property!!

 

[Angels Advocate]

It's OK. Because, you know, there's more ways of looking at things than just plain, objective facts that are black and white. Objective facts are very important, but, IMO, using intuition and abstract ideas can often lead to discovery of objective facts that may not have been otherwise discovered. Kind of the way Detective Goren looked at things in L&O: Criminal Intent. MOO.

Always agree. Without intuition, we’re lost.

 

[gngr~snap]

Any prepaid cash card will work for food delivery, absolutely. Also - as far as electricity goes, we have pre-paid electric where I live (don't know if all states offer this) but any name can be on the account; you don't need proof of who you are and you can reload the account by phone, app or in person - Florida has EZ pay (I just looked) So, you make excellent points... one would never have to leave the house and could live comfortably, unknown.

That's good in one way and terrifying the other!
MOO

 

[Allabouttrial]

I believe that is inaccurate, but I'd welcome a source that would prove me wrong. I think that stemmed from an article that said when the Laundrie's sold their Long Island home the people who bought it were the neighbors of the Petito's if I'm remembering correctly. I googled all I could to find the article that mentions that but came up empty-handed. This is all just based on my vague memory of reading that and not thinking it mattered at the time since when it was posted Gabby was thought to possibly be alive still. Again, I could be wrong, but I don't think the Laundries and Petito's were neighbors in Long Island.

Edited to remove typo.

Right. Why would Gabby's family not mention this, even once. It's not a minor detail that would be forgotten or left out of a discussion about their relationship with the Laundries.

 

[cottonweaver]

I was also struck by BL's apology for the fight being so public.
It gave me chills.
jmho

@imstilla.grandma has just helpfully included the link for that transcript.
(Sorry, have forgotten how to do multiquotes here so am just tagging instead.)

In that link which she's just added, the verbatim quote is here:
BL: 'I’m not going to pursue anything cause it’s my fiance I love her. So what’s the problem. I’m sorry that it had to get so public. So I just want to get like the checklist of things I’ve got to do to get rid of this.' ( The context can be found by searching for the word public in the document)

Also this extra bit stood out (even if it's a rehash of what you have all already discussed on WS)
BL: ' Well, that was one of the major advantages of having her with me was I could say, “Hey, I’m hungry. Can you get me something to eat?” She was able, because I was driving and she wasn’t, she was able to go back, get into the cooler, lunch or whatever. So there was that as an advantage.'

(For context, you can search for the word 'advantages' in the document.
There's lots of other telling material in that transcript but I don't want to rehash & do another too-long post)

Gabby Petito & Brian Laundrie Utah Bodycam Footage Transcript Before Disappearance

Hey @Allabouttrial nice to see you here too. Blast from the past!

 

[rosesfromangels]

Once again, it’s not based on a science nor is it a condemnation judgment of RL. It is an observation based on experience with people and it is a diagnostic judgment. Hope you can understand. We can sleuth based on appearances and behaviors. We can assess people based on their materiality, the way they dress and walk and so many things. It doesn’t make us bad people.

For me, I'm having a hard time thinking kindly and offering the benefit of the doubt to both of BL's parents. In fairness, there is nothing particularly outstanding or offensive about their appearances, their possessions, etc., but in context to the situation, I'm finding all sorts of things to be judgy about. It's our human nature, I guess. Here's what I simply can not get past as a woman.

As a woman and a mother, RL should have called GP's mom *immediately* and told her GP didn't come back with BP; is she with you, is she ok? Or, if she knew GP was deceased, she should have told GP's mom..."Gabby didn't come back with Brian; something is wrong. I don't have all the details, but I wanted to call you immediately"

If she wanted to lawyer up after that, so be it. But a real woman would have called Gabby's mom. Gabby lived in her home! She was part of their family (or was she?). Not calling Gabby's mom is unforgivable. But no, she didn't call GP's mom, and Gabby was left outdoors to be desecrated by wild animals. Evil, pure evil, imo. What type of a woman, a mother, can allow such a thing? (Allegedly)

So it's easy for me to look at them with disdain and contempt and find all sorts of things to be disgusted with. I'm human.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[CharlestonGal]

SBM

That could be taken a couple of ways. Was Brian controlling about her going out with any of her friends or could it have just been Rose in particular he didn't want her to go out with?

Well, it's against TOS to sleuth non-players in the thread, but people are free to investigate off the board to answer questions like this for themselves, if they so desire.