Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #73

[bluwaters]

The coroner said it will be one or two days, isn't that about the time it took to officially ID Gabby too?

Yes, but the FBI Denver announced in their 1st presser that they strongly believed the remains to be Gabby's, pending scientific verification. They knew.
Yesterday the FBI Tampa could not be as certain that these partial remains are Brian.
What they are dealing with forensically must be much more difficult that Gabby's remains.
They don't know yet if these are Brian's remains.
jmho

 

[cady]

Even if it's legible, it would probably just be random ramblings. No matter what he wrote, everyone will pick it apart, find hidden meanings, etc. I can't see it providing any comfort to the P family or helping the case. IMO.

He wasn't much of a writer...maybe just weird drawings in it, that was his forte. jmo

 

[Yellow Rose]

Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno holding press conference at Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park following remains being discovered

 

[Jealoushe]

WOW!

Crazy eh. One good thing from this is these other families can finally have some answers on their missing loved ones.

I guess we really could find missing people if we just looked hard enough.

 

[Bertha96]

He wasn't much of a writer...maybe just weird drawings in it, that was his forte. jmo

I agree.

 

[everybodhi]

Yes, but the FBI Denver announced in their 1st presser that they strongly believed the remains to be Gabby's, pending scientific verification. They knew.
Yesterday the FBI Tampa could not be as certain that these partial remains are Brian.
What they are dealing with forensically must be much more difficult that Gabby's remains.
They don't know yet if these are Brian's remains.
jmho

Dental records and DNA results will solve the mystery in a couple days. Jmo

 

[x_files]

See, I don't see them being as confident as when GP was found, they made the initial ID pretty quickly. The only evidence that leads, at least me as the public, to be him is the items found and the location. So, not meaning to be graphic, but to me, it sounds like the remains are not easy to identify as to who it is and they will be relying on scientific evaluation instead. Which leaves the door open to all of the alternative scenarios.
With the way this case has gone, it's hard not to head down that alternative rabbit hole. I am not one for conspiracy theories at all but this leaves so many holes and suspicions on the table that it's hard not to let my mind wander that way.

On a different note, I watched Polly Klaas's father last night and he said that if he is indeed dead, that is the 'easiest' justice for the Ps/Ss. Because he will no longer be a subject of discussion and they will not have to go for years in the legal system with all of the reopening of the emotional wounds over and over. There is no such thing as closure when you have lost a loved one in such a violent way but this allows you to heal without starting all over again. Samantha Runyon's mother was on too and she agreed. I just can't even imagine but as much as we all want to see BL face justice for what he's done, at this point, the Ps/Ss deserve to be able to start healing..... And GPs foundation will go on to do amazing things.

Agreed. Gabby's family is spared a nasty courtroom trial and non-stop media.

 

[Bekind89]

They were at Myakka yesterday.
Later they returned to the house.
They were screaming wtte of "Brian is burning in hell!"
This was reported live on WFLA.
jmho[/QUOTE.

I blame LE for allowing this. I have said from the very start that I am shocked that this is considered legal. It is harassment and imo, threatening behavior. Jmo

 

[RickshawFan]

If you examine pictures of the white dry bag more closely, you can see it's not actually that clean. There's some mildew and other debris on it, IMO.

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It’s open. I find that more provocative. Those buckles don’t open by themselves.

 

[SandSage]

I see a lot of comments speculating about whether the notebook would be legible if it was saturated. My two cents- I picked up geocaching as a hobby since the pandemic, and for those who don't know, it's a sort of treasure hunt where you have to find hidden logs (notebooks) in the woods and sign them. The containers the notebooks are hidden in often break down over time and the logs get saturated and moldy. You can't sign wet paper, but you can almost always still read what people wrote on it before it got wet, whether it's pen or pencil. Some inks will run but most won't. All that said, Brian fancied himself to be an artist, so my guess is his notebook was probably just mediocre artwork.

I was going to mention this too - my first year in this house was the heaviest rainfall we'd had in decades. It never occurred to me that my journals and notebooks would be destroyed in our backyard shed and I found them weeks later. Because of our climate, there was some mildew but for the most part, I was able to turn them upside down to dry and carefully pry the pages apart. They were lumpy afterwards but I could still read every word. JMO My experience. *fingers crossed there is anything of substance in that notebook*

 

[bluwaters]

Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno holding press conference at Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park following remains being discovered

I have forgotten (had oral surgery yesterday and forgot a lot about yesterday)
but wasn't it the Lee County ME who was called to Myakka when the human remains were found?
jmho

 

[PingTheRouter]

Until now I did not think you could do that here. But that is a very good question and I will try to find the answer. Jmo

Thank you, appreciate it

I know the laws over there are very different and may only be in effect in the city areas or something, so will be interesting to find out

 

[cady]

dbm

 

[makayla]

Since I don’t live in FL, could someone familiar with that area of the preserve answer some questions for me please?

Assuming BL entered that area on September 13th, was it dry then? Are there areas there that are habitable and yet dense enough for him to hide? Gabby was reported missing on September 11th, so when did LE actively start looking for BL? When would that preserve area have become “flooded”? If his parents said the area yesterday where remains were found was the area where he would have entered on September 13th, why would BL still be in that same area, why wouldn’t he have moved from there? Or did he just go in there and commit suicide shortly after? So many questions, and I appreciate any input from those in FL or familiar with the preserve. Thank you!

 

[BUF]

https://twitter.com/WFLAAllyson?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno just stopped by the Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park. He said he would be back to talk with us soon.. here’s what he had to say for now:
@wfla

video at link

 

[Van Helsing]

I couldn’t find the clip, but I transcribed the little tidbit. This is from Ashleigh Banfield’s show, Banfield, on NewsNation, last night 10/20/2021.
Interview with Brian Entin from the Reserve to open the show.
Ashleigh is speaking about the Pasco County K-9s.
“…but I will say this, Brian Entin. Those Pasco County Sherriff’s Deputies were real clear with me about the prowess of Diesel…he can smell anything water or not…the dog can absolutely smell & detect the scent of human remains on the top of the water. The water wouldn’t have been a detriment to Diesel’s job.”
Like I said, not in-depth, however, I thought it was interesting that they specifically called out Diesel & how good he was at his job & what his specific strengths were when they talked to Ashleigh about the dogs. JMO

In an early WS thread someone linked an article that said gators sometimes bury food underwater and come back to it later after it has decomposed somewhat. That might explain why the dog didn't detect the body (under water + underground) (?). Maybe the remains became exposed later after the search in that area when the gator returned to it or after the water receded.

 

[danij614]

They need to go home imo they're not really adding anything now other than upsetting the neighbours and causing a nuisance. The money they are requesting should be given to Gabby's foundation moo

Agreed. Time for them to go home. I was okay when they were there while BL was "missing", more so just as pressure for the parents to talk to authorities and give up any info they had. But that time has come and gone. Not understanding the point of them still being there.

Is it now just to "punish" the Laundries for their perceived lack of transparency and/or empathy?

 

[cottonweaver]

He wasn't much of a writer...maybe just weird drawings in it, that was his forte. jmo

Jumping off this post

Who else thinks that BL will have written some kind of note? ( Regardless of the subject, whether confessional, attempt at self-justification or goodbye letter to family.....whatever)

 

[x_files]

There was a post earlier to the effect that the public got so deep into details, flying information, and unlikely, complex theories that we lost sight of the basic facts of the case and simple, obvious explanations.

Although the unexpected does happen, it's those explanations that are usually correct.

For example, many people twisted into pretzels trying to figure out why Brian would've killed Gabby, why the Laundries behaved as they did, how Brian would've gotten away to another country, why it looked like LE dropped the ball here or there, etc.

When maybe, the simplest explanations might be the case.

Maybe BL killed Gabby because he's an abuser and she did nothing wrong.
Maybe the Laundries looked like they were being heartless because they were.
Maybe BL ran away from his parents to kill himself nearby, and doesn't really have the skills of the Barefoot Bandit.
And maybe LE occasionally did make a mistake, instead of always having a good reason for doing what they did.

I'm just saying maybe.

MOO

It really could be that simple.
We have no idea how BL was raised perhaps he left to the swamp because he has a troubled relationship with his parents. Maybe they are strict, heartless even cruel?
I have no idea because they haven't spoken out or showed any concern for Gabby's wellbeing when she was missing and only through their attorney that painted them as such.

 

[Figuring]

DNA can be obtained from bones, can't it?

Yes, usually, but does depend on the condition. I am a bit worried if he was in swamp water for 5 weeks… fingers crossed they have enough to test. Coroner said yesterday ID might only take a day or two so hopefully they have some decent material.