Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #81

[cady]

Brian Entin's moment of silence at the spot where Gabby was found. I smiled at the Día de los Muertos skull someone left to honor Gabby. She loved Halloween. I imagine she would have appreciated it so much. There is something so beautiful about the tradition of creating alters to honor the dead.

MOO.

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1453766839167688729?t=AOX9oG7G1YaqYcVTGk0Tgw&s=19

So much for environmentalism. jmo

 

[TL4S]

Brian Entin's moment of silence at the spot where Gabby was found. I smiled at the Día de los Muertos skull someone left to honor Gabby. She loved Halloween. I imagine she would have appreciated it so much. There is something so beautiful about the tradition of creating alters to honor the dead.

MOO.

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1453766839167688729?t=AOX9oG7G1YaqYcVTGk0Tgw&s=19

The first time I saw that was in an article about GP's family going there to visit the spot when they picked up her cremated remains. I can't find it, but I was under the impression they might have left it? Not sure

 

[Nanceedroo]

After taking a look at the 360º view, I bet BL thought there was no way anyone would find Gabby. moo

CHILLING.

 

[NCWatcher]

IMO, There's a better than good chance he'd been found and alive today.

Well, it's still the case that the Park and the Reserve includes something like 25, 000 acres. Land that by Sept 14 was largely flooded. None of us can know for sure but I doubt BL would have been found alive if the L's formally reported him missing on the 14th. And the NPPD/FBI would not have brought in all that equipment and all the extra personnel to do an all out search if he was not a POI or wanted.
JMO

 

[cady]

The first time I saw that was in an article about GP's family going there to visit the spot when they picked up her cremated remains. I can't find it, but I was under the impression they might have left it? Not sure

Don't know if they went there, but her cremains are in or near Jenny Lake. jmo

 

[Nikynoo]

I don't know exact procedure, but I do know that an adult can go where they want to and not be considered "missing" until maybe 48 hours after the report is filed (maybe less in different States) so probably no big search would have started until Wednesday or Thursday. BUT, a welfare check request is different....if the reporting party has legitimate concern for the welfare of the person (who may not be missing, but lives alone or something.) In this case, if L's had asked for a welfare check, they would need to give a reason, like he may be suicidal or that he can't be called and he left distraught...and THIS is where we believe he is. Best I can do! jmo Then, police would respond right away.

Great! Thanks for explaining!

 

[BCSleuth]

North Port officials remove Gabby Petito memorial from front lawn of Laundrie family property - CNN

"Ahead of severe weather, the City of North Port has received several complaints about signs located on (redacted) Avenue. Per City Sign Code and storm water code, these signs are in violation and are not allowed in the road right-of-way," Taylor said in an email to CNN Thursday.

 

[jjonez]

The first time I saw that was in an article about GP's family going there to visit the spot when they picked up her cremated remains. I can't find it, but I was under the impression they might have left it? Not sure

Agree. Specifically, I think TP left it. Jmo

 

[putnam6]

I've been thinking about this a lot.

On September 10, regardless of anything else, they knew something had gone very wrong. They knew on the 10th because NPPD came to the door looking for Gabby and only found her van. We can argue and debate about what happened between the 1st and the 9th forever, but on the 10th Chris and Roberta knew something bad had happened in Wyoming. Brian didn't leave until the 13th. They had three full days to save his life by handing him over to the FBI, FL law allows them to have physically/forcibly handed him over. Because, yes, I think they knew he was suicidal or they wouldn't have been "looking" for him so soon after he went "hiking".

Maybe if they had hired a Florida attorney, Brian would still be alive to answer for his crimes. Folks, it's important to hire an attorney in the state where you reside and an attorney in the state where you committed the crime. I mean, the best choice would be to not cross state lines on a crime spree, but here we are.

I'm pretty sure it was a volatile household as soon as he got back, if not before when he came home to clean the "storage room. It is possible if not likely they were peppering him with questions from day one, increasing in frequency and ferocity. I find it hard to believe they just went merrily along with their lives from 9/1.

IMHO MOO

 

[jjonez]

Don't know if they went there, but her cremains are in or near Jenny Lake. jmo

I know that JP’s comments with the pic of Jenny lake made it sound like that. But it was reported later that was not the case, that in fact her family took her (c)remains back to NY. No link, sorry. So moo.

 

[Wendigo4]

It's the same place, no evidence of orange paint apparent in this clip

They would of used survey paint which is water soluble and will disappear over a period of time from my experiance
IMO

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I am not so sure. I am curious as to what NPPD would actually have done if a MP was raised on the Monday or Tuesday. That is why I asked the question earlier, how do LE in the North Port area deal with MP reports.

Well, unfortunately, we do have the example of how NPPD reacted to the wellness check for Gabby and also their reaction (or lack thereof) when it was upgraded to a missing person. Not stellar, imo.
So there's absolutely no telling what they might have done ~ But if they had been notified earlier at least they would have had the opportunity to do more! MOO

 

[putnam6]

Agreed on the walk part. Also that 360 shot gave a perspective of the area that I could grasp much better than anything I’ve seen so far.
Jmo

It's weird just seeing that shot, screams to me Brian did it, he did it in an uncontrollable rage. Not that wasn't the obvious first conclusion, to begin with, but it fits his actions and those of his parents.

 

[Balthazar]

The RW&Bethunes never mention that to each other during the video and I'm sure it had sound. The afternoon at MP and the timeframe of 6:00 - 6:30 pm has been known since Gabby was reported missing, you must have missed those posts here. I know I missed a lot here just because I was busy trying to stay up with all. JMO

What many people are unaware of is that the Bethunes were driving two different vehicles. The husband was in the RV and the wife was trailing the RV in a car. That is why you don't hear the talking on the video. They were not together.

 

[TheGardener]

North Port officials remove Gabby Petito memorial from front lawn of Laundrie family property - CNN

"Ahead of severe weather, the City of North Port has received several complaints about signs located on (redacted) Avenue. Per City Sign Code and storm water code, these signs are in violation and are not allowed in the road right-of-way," Taylor said in an email to CNN Thursday.

Every tsunami eventually ebbs back to sleep in the ocean. Destruction and thousands of answers sucked away into the deep. Its like that with murder and the public.
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So, this is how it goes. The public moves on, LE moves on, families learn how to live around the unfathomable and unsolved for a lifetime.
MOO

 

[jjonez]

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21, MEDIA, MAPS *NO DISCUSSION*

GP’s parents leave messages and mementos

 

[Cinna]

I've been thinking about this a lot.

On September 10, regardless of anything else, they knew something had gone very wrong. They knew on the 10th because NPPD came to the door looking for Gabby and only found her van. We can argue and debate about what happened between the 1st and the 9th forever, but on the 10th Chris and Roberta knew something bad had happened in Wyoming. Brian didn't leave until the 13th. They had three full days to save his life by handing him over to the FBI, FL law allows them to have physically/forcibly handed him over. Because, yes, I think they knew he was suicidal or they wouldn't have been "looking" for him so soon after he went "hiking".

Maybe if they had hired a Florida attorney, Brian would still be alive to answer for his crimes. Folks, it's important to hire an attorney in the state where you reside and an attorney in the state where you committed the crime. I mean, the best choice would be to not cross state lines on a crime spree, but here we are.

Let's say you're right and they found out sometime after the 10th. They do the best they can to convince Brian to turn himself in. After a day or two of arguments, Brian says he is going to hike to clear his head and think things over. He may have appeared willing to turn himself in, but wanted to enjoy one last hike in freedom. They are worried and try to stop him, but ultimately choose to let him go rather than physically restrain him.

Saying that they should have done this or that in hindsight is cruel. Especially as we don't know what they did or what Brian said. I think they did the best they could. I don't blame them for Brian's death in any way.

So many different scenarios, so few facts.

 

[Followfacts]

The RW&Bethunes never mention that to each other during the video and I'm sure it had sound. The afternoon at MP and the timeframe of 6:00 - 6:30 pm has been known since Gabby was reported missing, you must have missed those posts here. I know I missed a lot here just because I was busy trying to stay up with all. JMO

Thanks right, the Sun said they described it as “abandoned”, but they didn’t abandoned in the quote.
Around four and a half hours after she claims to have seen the couple, bloggers Jenn and Kyle Bethune passed Petito and Laundrie's van at a campsite north of Grand Teton National Park.

They described the van as looking as if it had been "abandoned".

"We were going to stop and say hi ... but the van was completely dark. There was nobody there, so we decided to continue on our way."
IMO and I watched that video several times. I couldn’t see the door close. I did see some items in the front seats, dashboard. It was daylight. Hopefully we will be told more when we hear from the forensic anthropologist The early evening of the 27th IMO is more probable that Gabby was killed.

 

[Hyway]

What's troublesome for me is that SB isn't actually in Florida with the Laundries. He bases his remarks on what Chris and/or Roberta are telling him, and he uses his own filter to get that information out to the public. We can't be sure what words the Laundries actually used when describing BL's state of mind when he left for the hike. Without being there to observe BL's actions, behavior, emotions, there is no way that SB knows for sure what was going on. I appreciate that the Laundries don't want to speak to the media at this juncture, but it's going to be very difficult for them to undue the damage that their attorney has done. It might be in the Laundries' best interest to ask SB to lay low for the time being. JMO

MOO SB advice was the best advice they were given. Paraphrased it was 'Shut your mouths and let me talk to LE and the Media.' I am pretty sure that BL spilled everything to his parents around sept 11th. But you know what, I can't prove it. You can't prove it. And if they followed SBs advice, I doubt LE can prove it or will even try to prove it. So unless one of the parents decides to say it publicly, then it will always be unproven what they knew and when. And even so, knowing it isn't a crime. They didn't do anything to help him escape the clutches of LE.

 

[Coquette]

The first time I saw that was in an article about GP's family going there to visit the spot when they picked up her cremated remains. I can't find it, but I was under the impression they might have left it? Not sure

I just remembering seeing the white flowers her stepfather left. Perhaps her family left more when they collected her ashes.

MOO.