Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #37

[JayWill]

We saw HIS bodycam, we have not seen hers!

That was my point.

 

[NCWatcher]

True. But in doing so, they ignored the least biased account of what happened, which was what the person who saw it happening saw and reported to 911 right away, as close as possible to the time when it was happening. LE gave more weight to what a DV and her aggressor said during the stop, and a written account that happened hours later. We know that DV victims and aggressors don't always give accurate accounts. The only person whose account had no real agenda and no time to have memory distortions was the person who called 911. Which we now know was accurately relayed to the officers.

As someone with expertise in memory, it's fascinating to me. The officers unconsciously edited their memory of the dispatch call to conform with the narrative that they jointly constructed, in collaboration with the DV victim and aggressor, at the scene. Aside from being tragic, it's also a fascinating example of the reconstructive nature of memory, and how biases enter narratives about events.

BBM

The 911 caller may have given a factually accurate account to the dispatcher. But we can't know that and the officers certainly couldn't count on that. (I'm not discounting unconscious effects on the officers memories in making my point here.)

But I'm sure LE encounters all kinds of reports from concerned citizens that turn out to be factually incorrect (and sometimes extremely so.) And sometimes "uninvolved" callers without "an agenda" turn out to have one after all. Simply because the 911 caller called in immediately after observing the incident doesn't mean he got it right.

I'm not saying his account was flawed but it could have been. For example, perhaps his beloved sister recently left an abusive relationship with a man. If so, the caller could be primed to see DV as always male-instigated. We know our biases prime what we see and how we interpret ambiguous situations. ("We see things not as they are; we see them as we are.") That's true for any of us although it's hoped proper training will make us more objective observers.

Definitely a tragic situation but given the statements GB and BL made and the physical evidence (admittedly scant) I can't imagine most officers would haul anyone off to jail based on a 911 call.
JMO

 

[bammab]

Date of that image capture please?

2017, as stated in the article.

 

[Newsjunkiejen]

Inside Brian Laundrie's bedroom as Gabby Petito's homicide confirmed

@LMDlong If you're looking at the bedroom to see if you can spot any items that might be what was taken out in the bag, be mindful that that photo was taken in 2017.

It's an old real estate photo from when their house was on the market.

 

[Jettson]

IMO LE did the best they could. Situations involving DV can be complicated and difficult to assess. We can't expect LE to be mind readers or psychologists.

 

[ivegotcha]

Anyone got the picture of his bedroom ?

 

[Mike in WNY]

Inside Brian Laundrie's bedroom as Gabby Petito's homicide confirmed

Date of that image capture please?

I don't think it's left up to the discretion of LE officers about whether to release their body cam footage. I believe that footage belongs to the agency that they work for. MOO.

and probably governed to some degree by collective bargaining agreement.

 

[borndem]

MOO: This potential scenario keeps running through my mind, related to the aftermath of the TexMex: "Brian, That was the last straw. I can't have you keep making a scene at the restaurants and other places we go. That's going to ruin my blog and YouTube business if someone posts a video of you doing that. If told you that before and you keep doing it. I'm done with this; this relationship, this trip, this whole mess. Let's pack up in the morning and head back to Florida." That would likely have triggered a huge episode and response from BL.

Something like that certainly would've, and probably did. Maybe she did have a last straw. He'd have been hot, hot, hot. SMH. Too <modsnip> hot.

 

[pcap]

<modsnip>

She ended up dead. That was not being young and stupid. And he is almost 24 years old, not a kid.

I do not disagree.

In my opinion women mature earlier than men. Not excusing the behavior of an alleged killer. Just saying in general. A man at 24 has the maturity of a woman at like 19 or 20.

I’m male, for the record.

 

[Sachi]

Looks to be the size of a pair of pooped in underpants wrapped around a toothbrush.... in a brown paper lunch bag.
This also gives us a clear view of the Mustang's plates.

I'm cracking up! And yes , the plate.. thought of that.

 

[Serena Angelique]

This is controversial; sure. But it’s just my opinion. I think with the incident with the body cam video she was more at fault/the “aggressor” than he was. In that specific situation. Overall; no. But as I’ve said before: hindsight is 20/20. None of us were there.

I really don’t see that at all, and I’m trying to look at it from the perspective of not knowing anything about either of them. LE handled things poorly in general, and the only thing she said she did was hit his arm. He concurred, and also said she had scratched him after THEY asked him if she had first, but there’s nothing to back up that she scratched him with her phone, nor did she say she had done so. We do know that he had taken her phone away from her, even though he lied and behaved as if they both shared her phone.

Witnesses had called LE to investigate because they had seen him behaving aggressively toward her, and not until other way around. The most that they could come up with regarding her abusing actions toward him was that she hit his arm (not punched or hurt him) that there were little marks on his face that LE attributed to her, and that she wouldn’t give him space, or walk away from him to “cool off” because she probably didn’t appreciate being locked out of her van. None of that indicates her hurting him enough to be taken to jail.

 

[Gemmie]

Carlton Reserve has been closed since Sept. 21 but on Shannon Clowe's Twitter, there are reports that it just re-opened 30 minutes ago.
https://twitter.com/ShannonCwtsp/status/1442225760765300737

From Shannon: "I am seeing people go into the reserve. One man said some gates were shut when he went in."

Veeewy intewesting.... (said in Elmer Fudd's voice)

Sounds like they have reason to believe he's no longer a threat (when they thought he was in there during their searches). Also interesting that the FBI went for his DNA this morning. Puttin' 2 and 2 together something tells me we should be hearing more about BL soon. It's likely a body IMO. Word of his capture would be plastered all over the news if that was the case.

<modsnip >

 

[ohioexpat63]

Anything could have been taken from the house. I don't think it is very important what they took. I think the real story is they needed the DNA. I wonder if they asked the parents to give up their DNA?

 

[cady]

Don't forget that bedroom photo is several years old.

I googled that house and the google pic was 10years old (before they owned it) but it was a raggedy looking house, unkempt yard, just ugly and not worth much. I don't know if they made the improvements or the people they bought it from, but the improvements are very nice as we see it today. Don't know who owned it in 2011. JMO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Gabby Petito case exposes dark side of ‘van life’

Van life has gained steam amid the pandemic, with young people untethered from office work and looking to travel by car. On Instagram alone, there are 11 million posts tagged #vanlife, many of them featuring young, nubile travellers in front of beautiful scenery. But those in the community are quick to note that the lifestyle isn’t all it’s Instagrammed to be, and that a dangerous underbelly lurks beneath.

The 165cm, 52kg Crump, who mainly travels solo, has endured a number of incidents with creepy men making crude comments and threatening her, leaving her scared for her life. She sleeps with her keys within reach, should she need to make a quick exit.

Other van-lifers note that they are constantly on guard. Sunny Flaherty, 24, who has been on the road with boyfriend Jordan Summerlin, 26, for the past five years, recalled a terrifying incident a few years back. She and a caravan of friends were huddled around a campfire in the Arizona desert when a menacing man approached the group.

 

[PommyMommy]

Date of that image capture please?

2017, IIRC

 

[NorthErn2]

BBM

The 911 caller may have given a factually accurate account to the dispatcher. But we can't know that and the officers certainly couldn't count on that. (I'm not discounting unconscious effects on the officers memories in making my point here.)

But I'm sure LE encounters all kinds of reports from concerned citizens that turn out to be factually incorrect (and sometimes extremely so.) And sometimes "uninvolved" callers without "an agenda" turn out to have one after all. Simply because the 911 caller called in immediately after observing the incident doesn't mean he got it right.

I'm not saying his account was flawed but it could have been. For example, perhaps his beloved sister recently left an abusive relationship with a man. If so, the caller could be primed to see DV as always male-instigated. We know our biases prime what we see and how we interpret ambiguous situations. ("We see things not as they are; we see them as we are.") That's true for any of us although it's hoped proper training will make us more objective observers.

Definitely a tragic situation but given the statements GB and BL made and the physical evidence (admittedly scant) I can't imagine most officers would haul anyone off to jail based on a 911 call.
JMO

Agreed, often times reports can be misinterpreted, people tend overestimate or entwine personal experience and bias when reporting to LE. However the 911 caller did appear to provide an accurate and solid account IMO.

 

[Mike in WNY]

2017, as stated in the article.

So of what value is a four year old photograph to this discussion?

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Veeewy intewesting.... (said in Elmer Fudd's voice)

Sounds like they have reason to believe he's no longer a threat (when they thought he was in there during their searches). Also interesting that the FBI went for his DNA this morning. Puttin' 2 and 2 together something tells me we should be hearing more about BL soon. It's likely a body IMO. Word of his capture would be plastered all over the news if that was the case.

If he's dead I'm hoping the gaters and/or mountain lion at least got a bit of a meal out of him.

IMO it means they will soon be calling off the search in the reserve. He's not there. We'll see.

 

[lizzied]

Inside Brian Laundrie's bedroom as Gabby Petito's homicide confirmed

Weird a twin bed ...am i right? Is this an old picturre? Did GP have a separate room. I see no trace of female in this room.