GUILTY Yoselyn Ortega charged with 2 counts ea-1st and 2nd Degree Murder of Krim Children

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The fact that she's airing such trivial grievances undermines her claim of insanity. From the beginning, whenever anyone questioned her, she would outline petty grievances against Marina. It's a straight line - she was angry at Marina and wanted to hurt her. Cause and effect.
Her grievances are laughably unfair. I read in an article (can't find the link right now but it was based on court evidence) that she was earning $500 a week for a few hours work each day. I'm not from the US, but I would assume that's a very generous income for the work involved. And for someone who was suited and qualified for the job of taking care of children, this should have been the easiest, most pleasant job imaginable.
The devil didn't care how much she was earning or should be earning. The devil wasn't upset by the type of cleaning fluids Marina provided for housework. Only Yoselyn cared. The most awful thing about this case is the chilling logic in the way she figured out the most effective way to hurt Marina and send her perfect world crashing down. There's no insanity there at all.
 
Video Shows Nanny in Murder Trial Denying Hallucinations

"The first and only time jurors heard Yoselyn Ortega speak, she was undermining herself.

Seated next to her lawyers in court on Monday, the murder defendant buried her face in her hands and cried when prosecutors played a video of her saying she never hallucinated, and expressing surprise that she had ever claimed to...

“She said at no point during that day did she experience hallucination or hear any command hallucination to kill,” Dr. Ali Khadivi, the forensic psychologist who performed that assessment, said during Monday’s testimony. During the most damning portions of the video, the camera is tight on Ortega’s face. Offscreen, Khadivi’s voice asks about being possessed by the Devil. Ortega furrows her brow and shakes her head as though hearing a ridiculous claim for the first time. Her face is an exaggerated version of an expression I have seen on many onlookers at her trial. It’s a look of disbelief and bafflement, with an undercurrent of horror, disdain, and disgust. It’s a look that says, I am listening to something totally crazy....

A seasoned forensic psychologist, Dr. Khadivi testified that Ortega’s “considerable unreliability and gross inconsistencies” suggest she had feigned psychosis. But Dr. Khadivi’s most memorable contributions to this trial are not the things he said, but how Yoselyn Ortega reacted to them, both on video and in court. In the video, Ortega denies not just her hallucinations, but any memory of speaking to Dr. Phillip Resnick, the legendary forensic psychiatrist whose forensic analysis has influenced the cases of Jeffrey Dahmer, Casey Anthony, the Unabomber, and Timothy McVeigh....

The most damning parts of the video require no translation. “No,” Ortega says every time she is asked about prior descriptions of psychosis. “No, no, no.”.."

https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/nanny-trial-week-7-yoselyn-ortega-denies-hallucinations.html
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elizabeth rosner@elizameryl
5h5 hours ago
After 10 weeks of testimony, closing arguments in the #nannytrial begin Monday, April 16.
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‘Killer nanny’ trial closing arguments set for Monday

"...Jurors were sent home for a long weekend Thursday after hearing 10 weeks of often gruesome testimony against Yoselyn Ortega, 55, who is accused of using a kitchen knife to murder two young children under her care...."

https://nypost.com/2018/04/12/kille...y/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=twitter_app


So- court dark for Friday.

I hope someone tweets the closing arguements or someone tapes it...Sheesh:
 
Why We're Obsessed with Killer Nannies
An ongoing murder trial in New York and the book inspired by the case point to a special brand of primal fear that isn't as simple as you might think.

"After Chanson Douce, the novel based on the real-life story of a killer nanny, was first released in 2016, writer Leïla Slimani became the most-read author in France, won the prestigious Goncourt award, and landed on the cover of Elle magazine.

When the book dropped in the United States as the The Perfect Nanny in January, the New Yorker hailed it as “extraordinary," lavishing praise on Slimani’s examination of previously unspoken ambiguities of motherhood. Others said that despite its “exquisite craft,” the ultimate takeaway of the book was an old-fashioned one: “Stay home, Mom.”

Meanwhile, the grisly slayings that inspired the novel are still on trial in New York City.

Former nanny Yoselyn Ortega, 55, is charged with murdering two children in a Upper West Side apartment on a Thursday afternoon in October 2012. But there is no doubt Ortega killed the kids—the question for the jury is why did she do so, and whether she was of a right mind at the time....

But there is another question that the court will not—and cannot—answer: What is it about a killer nanny that so captures our imagination?...

...the Ortega case has incited a certain degree of panic, with one New York screening agency reportedly going so far as to encourage suspicious parents to ransack nannys’ purses to check for psychiatric medication.

But according to Columbia psychologist* Susan Scheftel, if parents have doubts, they should trust their gut and let the nanny go. “If you have to have a Nanny Cam, then you are already in trouble,” she told me of the device sometimes used to spy on caretakers. “That you so feel that someone you’ve hired might be doing harm to your baby—why did you hire that person?”

In her 2012 paper, Why Aren’t We Curious about Nannies, Scheftel wrote that though nannies “have had a ubiquitous presence among professional working women and are frequently involved in the lives of patients seen in private practice, their psychological significance for both employers and charges has rarely been considered.”...

Though the real-life nanny murder trials are compelling in part for the simple reason that they speak to primal fears, it is irrational to think we can learn anything about the rights and wrongs of the upper-middle-class relationship to hired help by way of these senseless tragedies. To project our anxieties on the parents in these cases is irrational. To think Ortega was in anyway justified is deranged...."

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evqmae/why-were-obsessed-with-killer-nannies
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Nanny case pushes N.Y. pols to crack down on bogus baby-sitter résumés

"The Upper West Side couple who hired the nanny charged with murdering their two children was misled by a ginned-up reference letter written by the baby-sitter’s niece.

Now Albany lawmakers, with a big push from the slain kids’ father, Kevin Krim, hope to make providing fake references and lying on applications for child care gigs a felony.

Under “Lulu and Leo’s Law,” named for the children allegedly stabbed to death by 55-year-old Yoselyn Ortega in October 2012, nannies and baby-sitters could see prison time for pumping-up their résumés.

“People lied to these parents about who Ortega was, lied to these parents about Ortega’s experience and as a result they relied upon those references and that information and that factored into that decision to hire her,” said Sen. Andrew Lanza (R-S.I.), who will sponsor the Senate bill to make it a felony to lie on child care applications....

Kevin and Marina Krim recently testified at Ortega’s Manhattan murder trial that they relied heavily on what turned out to be bogus background information provided on behalf of Ortega....

Summations in the heartbreaking case are scheduled for Monday"

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...k-bogus-baby-sitter-resumes-article-1.3934429
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I read the book by Leila Slimani and thought it was very good, but her characterizations and the family situation were very different from the Krims' story. She might have been inspired by this crime, but she took the motivation in a very different direction.
 
elizabeth rosner@elizameryl
Apr 12
Yoseyln Ortega undermines her defense, denies hearing voices to kill herself or to kill the 2 Krim children. Video footage via @TheCut #nannytrial

[video=youtube;MX_knK06ZhE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL4B448958847DA6FB&time_continue=12&v=MX_knK06ZhE[/video]
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Jan Ransom@Jan_Ransom
1h1 hour ago
Closing arguments happening now in the case of #YoselynOrtega, the nanny accused of fatally stabbing 2 young children in 2012. #nannytrial


But no one tweeting the closing arguments...:gaah:
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Now defense closing argument on live feed.
 
Crazy or not........she should be locked up for life somewhere.
 
1: close the windows......nyc,.......non stop sirens....I know what I’m tawking about.
 
I agree Really? Lock her up and throw away the key...

Yes- NYC is very noisy- the windows are probably very old- not insulated and are probably closed already.....I grew up there....

I tawk just like she does...:D
 
elizabeth rosner@elizameryl
17m17 minutes ago
Kevin Krim, father of Lucia and Leo, sits in court as the defense claims Yoseyln Ortega aka 'killer nanny' loved his 2 children. #nannytrial @liaeustach @nypmetro

[video]https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/985951588417228801/ROMdxTXX?format=jpg&name=600x314[/video]

Father of dead tots looked disgusted at ‘killer nanny’ closing arguments

"The father of the two tragic tots butchered to death by their nanny sat in disgust as he listened to a defense lawyer tell jurors that their accused killer “loved” the family she tore apart.

A red-faced Kevin Krim sat in anguished silence toward the back of the Manhattan Supreme c ourt room as closing arguments got underway in Yoselyn Ortega’s murder trial.

“She loved this family,” Ortega’s lawyer Valerie Van Leer-Greenberg said, as Krim fought back tears.

The lawyer tried one last time to convince jurors that the 60-year-old long suffered from an unchecked mental illness prior to the Oct. 25, 2012 murders of 6-year-old Lucia and her brother Leo, 2....

“If the defendant bore so much hate for Marina and was waiting for her ’til she got home holding at 13-inch knife, then why not stab Marina was well?” Van Leer-Greenberg asked. “The defendant had already stabbed herself twice.”..."

https://nypost.com/2018/04/16/fathe...-disgusted-at-killer-nanny-closing-arguments/
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She does goes on and on and onnnnnnnn- stating the whole trial in her closing argument...:sheesh: (might take days..:facepalm:..)
 
Clodagh McGowan@clodaghny1
5m5 minutes ago
The victims' father Kevin Krim has been in courtroom for the majority of the day for the closing arguments in the Yolanda Ortega murder trial. I do not have words to accurately describe the pained look on his face #nannytrial
 
Family of ‘killer nanny’ hasn’t even apologized: source

"As the trial for the nanny who slaughtered two Upper West Side children draws to a close Monday, a source close to the tragic tots’ parents says they are stunned to have never received so much as an apology from her kin.

Killer caregiver Yoselyn Ortega’s niece wrote the phony referral that landed her the job, and the rest of the nanny’s relatives were well-acquainted with the family, filling in for Ortega at times and even walking their dog, the Krims and other witnesses have testified.

Yet “not a single member of [Ortega’s] family has reached out … just to say that they’re sorry that these two children, who [her relatives] used to hold in their arms, are dead,” the source said.

“It’s basic common humanity.’’....

“The defendant’s family not taking any responsibility for their role in this really makes [the Krims] mad,” the source said. “It’s truly infuriating.”..."

https://nypost.com/2018/04/15/family-of-killer-nanny-hasnt-even-apologized-source/
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Defense: New York nanny heard devil's command to murder children

"NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York nanny who stabbed to death two of her charges after hallucinating that a devil told her “to kill the children and herself” should be found not guilty of murder by reason of insanity, her lawyer told a jury on Monday.

Yoselyn Ortega, 55, was suffering from “command hallucinations” in 2012 when she repeatedly plunged a kitchen knife into Lucia Krim, 6, nicknamed Lulu, and her brother Leo, 2, at their New York luxury apartment, her attorney Valerie Van Leer-Greenberg said in her closing argument at state Supreme Court in Manhattan.

“She who is fighting demons could not see to it that she did not become a demon,” Van Leer-Greenberg told jurors.

Mental health experts called as defense witnesses testified that Ortega was mentally incapable of having an intent to kill and was too psychotic to understand her actions. The defense maintains that Ortega has long suffered from depression, psychotic thinking and hallucinations....

Any semblance of normalcy, argued Van Leer-Greenberg, simply masked her long descent into madness.

“The tumble into mental illness, to the outside world, can sometimes look like no change at all,” Van Leer-Greenberg said. “Sometimes it (rears) up and nestles deep before anyone else takes notice.”..."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...vils-command-to-murder-children-idUSKBN1HN18T
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