Zach Adams on trial for the kidnapping and murder of Holly Bobo- Sept 13 & 14, 2017

[Ellej]

omg was he sleeping, showering or watching a movie? For crying out loud. We need to get Clint back up there cause I'm lost

You are SO RIGHT!! You know it will turn out that he fell asleep in the shower with a movie playing!!

Totally agree --- Clint needs back on the stand. That one meth detail REALLY needs to be pursued.


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[turaj]

i bet the judge is playing a game....

 

[Bravo]

I had a few calls. So if I got this right Zach tells J this story about going to Hobo's for a meth tutorial with Clint. So my point being he was told this by Zach? Cuz I am not buying it. What Zach told him just to clarify. He wasn't there.

 

[turaj]

ZA is thinking "what the h--- is going on here.?"

 

[katydid23]

What I am afraid of is she's asking him to map all this out and she's gonna come back with cell tower pings that contradict it, as she mentioned in her opening.

I hear ya. She has to have something up her sleeve.

But I don't think the state would allow him to tell a story that is totally conflicting with the cell log evidence. But who knows?

The problem in rural areas is that there are few cell towers and sometimes calls get rerouted.

 

[turaj]

the judge is getting fed up

 

[Nereid]

Still waiting for her point to come across. Will it be conflicting cell pings? JA sounds VERY confident.

 

[Ellej]

[emoji15] You sure these two aren't about to open a bottle of wine right there in the courtroom and discuss this map in detail in open conversation. Oh would you like some more wine? Maybe next weekend we should go out and get a bite to eat?

This is how conversational and light this cross-examination is. I have never seen anything like it. Crazy!


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[Tssiemer]

I don't even know which route I took to the grocery store yesterday. Much less the names and what they look like.


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[oceanblueeyes]

^^^ Respectfully, BBM

Ha! Exactly, Ocean! So, let's kidnap, drug her, gang rape & murder her instead

It makes no sense. So Zach hides his vehicle and sneaks over to a home where he knows Karen and Dana live and they are just going to go inside and make a bunch of meth? Nope I don't believe this part for one second. Like I said earlier, I want to see any phone call records between this crew and Clint around the time it happened. I think this is JAs sick way to get back at Holly's family or ZAs if he really told JA this. They probably blame them for the three getting caught because they wouldn't let go of it being investigated.

 

[katydid23]

I had a few calls. So if I got this right Zach tells J this story about going to Hobo's for a meth tutorial with Clint. So my point being he was told this by Zach? Cuz I am not buying it. What Zach told him just to clarify. He wasn't there.

Right. This is what Zach supposedly told him, about why Zach was at the Bobos that morning.

 

[Gee]

I am going to have to re-watch SA's testimony later - is very sickening and too much to absorb in one sitting for me. But I am kind of stunned at how much of this info was on various social media sites very early on and so much dismissed as rumors or gossip.

 

[lstiff]

I didn't realize just how huge he is.He's like Keith Jesperson huge.Gawd.

They said he is 6'7!

i think these 2 should get together for a drink tonight to figure this out!

I agree.

i bet the judge is playing a game....

I think the judge (and the entire courtroom) like many of us, wonder where we are going with this. ???

IMO

 

[katydid23]

It makes no sense. So Zach hides his vehicle and sneaks over to a home where he knows Karen and Dana live and they are just going to go inside and make a bunch of meth? Nope I don't believe this part for one second. Like I said earlier, I want to see any phone call records between this crew and Clint around the time it happened. I think this is JAs sick way to get back at Holly's family or ZAs if he really told JA this. They probably blame them for the three getting caught because they wouldn't let go of it being investigated.

But Zach supposedly told this to the witness, way back before anyone was arrested. What was his reason at that time to make up that lie?

 

[lonetraveler]

Yes, agreed!!! Rebecca being a woman was much easier for her though.

There is something even in the inflection of her female voice that yields the power to Autry.

I am a woman and I am all for women and their professionalism, success, ambition etc.

So when I say this, I definitely don't mean this as an offense to women whatsoever...I am just being honest about how she is handling this.

She is definitely influenced by the fact that she is speaking with a masculine man. She has this almost flirtatious lilt in her voice which I am SURE is unintentional. But it's like when she asks him questions and he answers her, she is intimidated by the masculine presence and she "gives in" to "understanding him" and makes him comfortable rather than pursuing an objective tone and direction against him.

Social cues...she is socially showing she is being overpowered by him and it is so subtle but if you are directly watching this and listening to her powerlessness during this cross-examination, you would know what I mean.


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Respectfully, I disagree with you. IMO, she is deliberately using being female for the benefit of her cross examination. She is making him want to "help" her figure out everything. She, acting a bit confused, is moving him to help her understand. She knows that if she comes in like a pit bull, he will balk at helping her pull any information from him. He would immediately go into "fight" mode.
I'm a woman who was in a management position working with men. There are ways to get them to partner with you in order to negotiate agreements and resolve disputes.

 

[JenaTaoson]

I had a few calls. So if I got this right Zach tells J this story about going to Hobo's for a meth tutorial with Clint. So my point being he was told this by Zach? Cuz I am not buying it. What Zach told him just to clarify. He wasn't there.

Yes Zach told him that's why. He's just relaying what he was told. Doesn't make it true he's just repeating what he was told. I have a hard time believing this about (CB) as he also told him (JA) that N Bobo had shown him (ZA) pictures of Holly and had led him to believe she was interested in a threesome. (Yuk hate even having to type that.)
Point being Zach said a number of things about it.

 

[terpstra1]

Yikes I wonder what's become of JoJo. I hope he got away from these people even if he's a low life drug dealer. I can't imagine watching this knowing it could have been me killed too.

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[katydid23]

Looks like she wants these maps so she can compare them to HER cell tower experts.

 

[lstiff]

Yikes I wonder what's become of JoJo. I hope he got away from these people even if he's a low life drug dealer. I can't imagine watching this knowing it could have been me killed too.

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This made me chuckle for some reason (delusion, tired, insanity from this cross) let's hope "little Jo-Jo" has cleaned himself up and gotten away from this gang of crooks.

IMO

 

[JenaTaoson]

Respectfully, I disagree with you. IMO, she is deliberately using being female for the benefit of her cross examination. She is making him want to "help" her figure out everything. She, acting a bit confused, is moving him to help her understand. She knows that if she comes in like a pit bull, he will balk at helping her pull any information from him. He would immediately go into "fight" mode.
I'm a woman who was in a management position working with men. There are ways to get them to partner with you in order to negotiate agreements and resolve disputes.

I would agree with that if she hadn't sounded confused almost every time she's cross-examined anyone. Not to mention her opening statement. IMO