Zach Adams on trial for the kidnapping and murder of Holly Bobo Sept 20 & 21, 2017

[katydid23]

This attorney is awesome! Quietly...knocking it out of the park!

Expert: "Correct, correct, correct....."

I liked the initial strategy, to say to the cell expert, " I don't expect to keep you here long" -----making the expert relax and not expect much pushback.....lol

 

[katydid23]

Wait, what? Only JA testified that, and his testimony is that it was about a drug-making deal with Clint in which HB was a bystander in the wrong place at the wrong time.

In THIS TRIAL only JA testified. But both Dylan and Shayne made immunity deals previously, which require formal statements made to the court.

 

[popsicle]

Shouldn't the sector sizes be equal?

 

[Bravo]

Wait, what? Only JA testified that, and his testimony is that it was about a drug-making deal with Clint in which HB was a bystander in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Yes correct but to clarify Autry stated it was Zach who told him about the meth making with Clint.

 

[maskedwoman]

- The gun bartered was identified as the same gun that was used as HB was shot.
- How do we know it was the same gun?
We DO NOT know it was the same gun - NO ballistics tests ... nothing !
IF it was the murder weapon, there would have been ballistics tests proving it ...

I'm glad someone else has noticed the above, besides just me. I keep seeing comments about the gun as some sort of indicator here, and it's just not. The evidence is incredibly vague and general, and I think the state is hoping it will be taken as more than it actually is.

While the state introduced all sorts of testimony about a particular gun, they couldn't even determine with any certainty what caliber of gun shot HB.

So they can at best prove that they found a gun that - like thousands of others - could have fit her wound. But otoh a different gun owned by a different person who was in that county, and even a gun of a completely different caliber, might have done it just as well. And they couldn't even say for sure if the shot that caused the wound was before or after she was dead, so there's that as well.

I agree that we do not know whether it was the same gun or not, but we will never know that scientifically. Since no bullet was recovered, ballistics tests can never be done. So, we either have to accept testimony regarding the pedigree of this gun that was passed around from person to person, or discount it. Either way, we do know Holly was shot in the back of the head.

 

[cfreyja23]

Wait, what? Only JA testified that, and his testimony is that it was about a drug-making deal with Clint in which HB was a bystander in the wrong place at the wrong time.

IIRC, Autry testified that Zach Adams said it was about a drug making lesson with Clint Bobo. Zach could've been lying to Autry, and Autry was not asserting that it was true, merely that it's what Zach told him. I don't think the statement damages Autry's testimony.

 

[Plumeria5]

He has this expert in the palm of his hand.

"You know when it is a quick drive?"
"When you drive quick".

Both chuckle.

Have to love the dry humor!

 

[crhedBngr]

I feel for the poor soul who is constantly coughing. It must be miserable sitting there with health issues.

 

[kaen]

I needed this pros. when my kids were up and crying late at night. Soothing. Measured. Soothing. Measured. All while rocking back and forth. My sleep life would have been much more stable.

 

[turaj]

I feel for the poor soul who is constantly coughing. It must be miserable sitting there with health issues.

i have heard that cough since day one...its a rough one and given the length of time must be chronic.

 

[SteveS]

In THIS TRIAL only JA testified. But both Dylan and Shayne made immunity deals previously, which require formal statements made to the court.

Perhaps. But since we haven't heard those introduced into court, and we don't know the content of what they might have said, we can't say for sure what they included. I'm not arguing ZA isn't the guy, but only that our info about what the others said are mostly assumptions, not facts.

 

[katydid23]

Dennis Ferrier‏ @Fox17Ferrier 6m6 minutes ago
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Defense expert admits theory Shayne Austin and Dylan Adams are driving around with Holly can not be disproved #HollyBobo

 

[turaj]

she is just trying to take jury into the weeds here.

 

[crhedBngr]

I needed this pros. when my kids were up and crying late at night. Soothing. Measured. Soothing. Measured. All while rocking back and forth. My sleep life would have been much more stable.

LOL - thanks for the laugh today! Ha, ha, I'll pass this onto my DH.

:laughing::laugh:

 

[turaj]

i wonder who the next witness is that is in the military and on a timed visit or something?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

- The gun bartered was identified as the same gun that was used as HB was shot.
- How do we know it was the same gun?
We DO NOT know it was the same gun - NO ballistics tests ... nothing !
IF it was the murder weapon, there would have been ballistics tests proving it ...

I'm glad someone else has noticed the above, besides just me.

I keep seeing comments about the gun as some sort of indicator here, and it's just not. The evidence is incredibly vague and general, and I think the state is hoping it will be taken as more than it actually is.

While the state introduced all sorts of testimony about a particular gun, they couldn't even determine with any certainty what caliber of gun shot HB.

So they can at best prove that they found a gun that - like thousands of others - could have fit her wound. But otoh a different gun owned by a different person who was in that county, and even a gun of a completely different caliber, might have done it just as well. And they couldn't even say for sure if the shot that caused the wound was before or after she was dead, so there's that as well.

:seeya: Hi Steve,

1st BBM: That would be me -- in the blue ... LOL !

2nd BBM: I totally agree.

Also, what about the Serial Number on this particular gun?

I don't recall it mentioned ? Was there even a serial number on the gun to possibly trace it ?

 

[TrixieBelden13]

Can someone refresh my memory please? Was it JA who testified that SA said to ZA "you didn't have to kill her" ??

If whoever kidnapped Holly (SA?) wasn't planning on killing his victim did he really think she wouldn't go to the police and he would ultimately be identified?

I could understand a more rapid grab and go kidnap while wearing a mask and then blindfolding the victim but this possible conversation in the driveway is odd to say the least.

 

[Madeleine74]

I find it important to tune out the "noise" in a case and stick with the evidence and testimony. That keeps me focused. The state is building it brick by brick, their case is coming together nicely. Even the defense witnesses are agreeing with them. That won't be lost on the jury and in case it is, the state will remind the jury how all these disparate witnesses actually corroborate each other, coming at it from different points.

 

[Ellej]

Again, it is not lost on me that the physical evidence is poor in this case. TBI's fault 100%.

Throw out the gun.

Yes, in order to convict, you do have to believe the circumstantial evidence and the direct evidence given by witnesses along with hopefully, still standing - (I gotta watch today ) SOME cell phone data suggesting location.

These folks are not all being tried for no reason. Prep has been done for this trial for a year and the year before that was spent with plea deals and arraignments for a reason.

Defense did not convince me Terry Britt did it. The state would be putting him up for this trial instead if there was enough data in the 4 terabytes to convict him.

We heard from the first TBI agent, Dicus, who we know by nature of the beast now that TBI is at fault here ----I don't for a second think that guy is credible for anything.

In fact ---I think, and here's a biggie ----Victor Dinsmore is more credible than the first TBI agent's opinion or account of anything. And THAT is saying a lot for me! Dinsmore was the worst witness for me by far that the state brought up to testify.

That's how mad TBI makes me. First agent Dicus ----you could literally throw him out completely for me. Next!!


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[turaj]

Can someone refresh my memory please? Was it JA who testified that SA said to ZA "you didn't have to kill her" ??

If whoever kidnapped Holly (SA?) wasn't planning on killing his victim did he really think she wouldn't go to the police and he would ultimately be identified?

I could understand a more rapid grab and go kidnap while wearing a mask and then blindfolding the victim but this possible conversation in the driveway is odd to say the least.

the conversation in the driveway is odd...most kidnappings don't exactly start that way...did the camo man think there was a chance she would go willingly and it did not go as expected? Thus the blood...and she walked away with camo man but I am sure with force.