Zach Adams on trial for the kidnapping and murder of Holly Bobo Sept 20 & 21, 2017

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oceanblueeyes said:
That has been said for 6 years now yet Clint has been to every hearing in support of his sister and during the trial itself. He has been interviewed by the investigators over and over again.

I think some are just determined to make more out of things than they really are. I<modsnip>

Did anyone for the defense testify that ZA knew Clint Bobo?
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It might just be local gossip. I was just passing along what this guy is saying about the local community and what they think.

I feel badly for Clint and I know that he wants justice for Holly.
 
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Well the judge is covering all the bases, including facilitation and so forth.


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popsicle said:
Opening is good to watch to see what they are going to prove during their CIC. Also fun to watch after all the evidence is in, to see where they failed.

Closing is a must because it sews together all the pieces of evidence presented during the trial. Closing tells the story with the evidence.

jmo
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Attorneys always throw in stuff that isn't true in their openings and closings. I like to base my opinion on the trial testimony only because I have a hard time filtering out their BS.
 
SteveS said:
Unless he has info that we haven't heard before, this isn't accurate. I've been following this case for years, and we had the statements offered by SA, and in them he never admitted (in fact, vehemently denied) any involvement except in the disposal of the body. In fact, his plea deal was based on his claim of no involvement. His atty after his death continued to say the same thing, on his behalf.
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Jason Autry vehemently denied also....it's amazing our ability to lie for self preservation.

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SteveS said:
Why would the defense explore such testimony? JA testified that way, but neither side had any motive to take it any further.
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I think one of the agents did later testify that they found no connection between Clint and ZA - but I do not remember which agent or which day - just that they did bring it back up
 
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Gee said:
I think one of the agents did later testify that they found no connection between Clint and ZA - but I do not remember which agent or which day - just that they did bring it back up
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It was former TBI Agent Terry Dicus, who responded, when asked by defense if Zach and Clint cooked meth together, "that's ridiculous". Dicus seemed to indicate further that they did not find any evidence they knew each other.
 
Here's what I put together - have questions behind some of the times, so if anyone can add to it - it would be very much appreciated! TIA!

April 13, 2011
In case others want to see all in chronological order.

4:54a - 8:18a &#8211; Zach &#8211; no activity (from 8:17a to 8:25a Holly's phone is moving near Cox Rd @ 641/I40)

6:50a - Jason-- near Camden (GF house) text

6:51a - 8:19a &#8211; Jason -- no pings

7:00a - Karen Bobo leaves for work/Holly was sitting at dining room table, also texting back and forth with classmate Hannah
7:30a -- Holly speaks to BF, Drew re hunting on grandmother's property
7:30a - 7:40a - Holly -- home area
7:40a - Neighbor hears a scream (& hears fighting for 45 seconds (per Def "cell" expert)
7:42a - Holly -- last outgoing call (wondering "who" she dialed-maybe not-phone in back pocket, she gets knocked to the ground in carport maybe and butt dials)
7:45a - Neighbor's mother calls Karen
7:50a - Clint is awakened by dogs barking/Karen calls Clint
7:53a - 8:09a - Holly's phone connect to towers close to home
7:55a - Karen calls 911 from work

8:00a - Karen calls Clint to call 911 after he tells her what he saw
8:00a - Holly's phone is moving
8:11a - Holly's phone from house and hits Tower 1 then moved (per Def "cell" expert)
8:16a - Hollys phone at Shiloh Rd Tower
8:17a - Holly's phone going north I40 (Shiloh Rd Tower)
8:17a - 8:26a &#8211; Holly -- ping off 2 different towers / stays there for 25 minutes (per Def "cell" expert)
8:17a - 8:55a - rape and murder occurred between 8:17am and 8:55am (if Autry is to be believed that Holly was already in back of Zach's truck, wrapped )
8:18a - Zach's phone on ("where" ? - at home?)
8:19a &#8211; Zach's phone at Cox Rd @ 641/I40- incoming text From JA
8:19a - 8:53a - Zach's phone utlizing same tower close to his home
8:28a -- Defense witness (Dikas) says ZA phone pings at home (several miles from where Holly's pings)
8:30a &#8211; Zach -- outgoing text to JA
8:30a - 8:52a Zach and JA-- texting back & forth
8:53a - 8:55a &#8211; Zach - phone call from JA-call went to voice mail--Zach called JA back &#8211;Zach&#8217;s phone near Yellow Springs & Adams house (Holly's pinged twice just after 9 near where Adams' phone pings - by Yellow Springs near Cox Rd)
8:55a &#8211; Jason phone - Autry, Adams & Holly's all shown in same area (same tower) - (at Shayne's where Jason sees Holly's body wrapped in back of Zach's truck)

~8:19a - 9:12a -- Zach's phone close to home-in same general area of where Holly's phone pings)
8:57a - 9:00a -- Holly's phone pings Yellow Springs area (2nd ping)
9:02a - 9:06a &#8211;Holly's phone - East of Shiloh Rd @ Cox & I40/641 (3rd tower pinged) Same tower as Zach's house
9:10a &#8211; Holly - Sugar Tree near Tennessee River (Shayne leaves to dump her phone)
9:10a - 10:43a -Zach - texts between ZA & Shayne Austin/Zach @ Birdsong area
9:12a &#8211; Zach's phone pings Yellow Springs area (Holly's 2nd ping in same area)
9:25a &#8211; Holly - pings near home - final ping - sim & phone found in this area.
9:40a - Holly's phone stops pinging/probably dead battery
9:42a - 10:37a &#8211; Jason phone -- pings near Tenn River near Birdsong Rd exit (Zach & Jason at Birdsong with Holly's body)
9:50a &#8211; Zach - pings near Tennessee River

10:01a - 10:32a - Zach continuallly texting Shayne
10:35a - Zach's phone uses the other side of tower near Birdsong Rd exit
10:35a - Jason's phone uses the other side of tower near Birdsong Rd exit
10:38a - Zach's phone moving away from tower & going back home
10:39a &#8211; Jason - phone is moving away from tower at Birdsong Rd exit (again pings near Cox Rd. (leaves Tenn river area)

11:04a -- CCTV at AmFarm shows TBI SUV traveling to Parsons
11:05a -- CCTV at AmFarm shows TBI SUV traveling to Parsons
11:07a -- CCT at AmFarm shows ZA's Pickup traveling to Parsons
11a - 12p &#8211; Zach - in Parsons (video store w/GF)

~2:30p - 3:30p - All (Zach, Jason & Shayne) at Dinsmore house (per house cleaner)

9:47p -- First 911 call by Dick Adams (ZA's GrF) - ZA is causing a problem
9:49p - Second 911 call by DA - Didn't want officers to come over
9:51p - Third 911 call by DA - ZA is back & causing problem; was raising hell, wanted guns & keys to his/Dylan's truck. More frantic call - sounds exasperated (JMO)






posting this - but have not added what the Defense's last cell expert said.

I am having problems with my laptop this morning - so there is no way I can listen and post here. So I'm going to try and just watch. Had to download Firefox, as my IE wouldn't let me into WS this morning.... :scared: LOL! I HAD to be here for this.

So - I'll read the posts later....
 
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katydid23 said:
I think the Marshall deserved everything she gave him. He was making statements to the jury that he never included in his official report. And he admitted that he had become 'friends' with someone he was supposed to be investigating. He hadn't even given him his Miranda rights before the interview, so it was useless anyway.....He was acting unprofessionally, imo.

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"Under cross examination, Walker admitted that he was unaware Dicus had been told to "stand down and leave Terry Britt alone."

Nichols also noted to jurors that much of Walker's testimony Wednesday was not included in his written report for investigators at the time. She also asked Walker why he did not read Britt his Miranda Rights.

"I was not there to get testimonial evidence," Walker said."
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Yes! That is how I feel. If you weren't there for testimonial evidence then why are you here testifying about what was said? When she dinged him on the fact that he had said Britt was suspicious in the report and he had just denied that, he lost almost all credibility for me.

I know a lot of y'all know way more than me on this regard...how common is it for someone like Britt to change their MO? I suspect going from just rape, to raping and killing, isn't a huge leap simply because a rapist doesn't want to be caught. I need to go find the details of Britts previous cases(like were they ambush rapes of strangers?).

At this point I think it's s 50/50 chance on what the verdict could be.


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It is incredibly dead and glazed over his eyes look. Just black holes like a shark. I found a picture of him from 2015 and he had dead eyes then too, but not like this. I wonder if they have him medicated and it's enlarged his pupils or something?
 
Niner said:
Here's what I put together - have questions behind some of the times, so if anyone can add to it - it would be very much appreciated! TIA!

April 13, 2011
In case others want to see all in chronological order.

4:54a - 8:18a &#8211; Zach &#8211; no activity (from 8:17a to 8:25a Holly's phone is moving near Cox Rd @ 641/I40)

6:50a - Jason-- near Camden (GF house) text

6:51a - 8:19a &#8211; Jason -- no pings

7:00a - Karen Bobo leaves for work/Holly was sitting at dining room table, also texting back and forth with classmate Hannah
7:30a -- Holly speaks to BF, Drew re hunting on grandmother's property
7:30a - 7:40a - Holly -- home area
7:40a - Neighbor hears a scream (& hears fighting for 45 seconds (per Def "cell" expert)
7:42a - Holly -- last outgoing call (wondering "who" she dialed-maybe not-phone in back pocket, she gets knocked to the ground in carport maybe and butt dials)
7:45a - Neighbor's mother calls Karen
7:50a - Clint is awakened by dogs barking/Karen calls Clint
7:53a - 8:09a - Holly's phone connect to towers close to home
7:55a - Karen calls 911 from work

8:00a - Karen calls Clint to call 911 after he tells her what he saw
8:00a - Holly's phone is moving
8:11a - Holly's phone from house and hits Tower 1 then moved (per Def "cell" expert)
8:16a - Hollys phone at Shiloh Rd Tower
8:17a - Holly's phone going north I40 (Shiloh Rd Tower)
8:17a - 8:26a &#8211; Holly -- ping off 2 different towers / stays there for 25 minutes (per Def "cell" expert)
8:17a - 8:55a - rape and murder occurred between 8:17am and 8:55am (if Autry is to be believed that Holly was already in back of Zach's truck, wrapped )
8:18a - Zach's phone on ("where" ? - at home?)
8:19a &#8211; Zach's phone at Cox Rd @ 641/I40- incoming text From JA
8:19a - 8:53a - Zach's phone utlizing same tower close to his home
8:28a -- Defense witness (Dikas) says ZA phone pings at home (several miles from where Holly's pings)
8:30a &#8211; Zach -- outgoing text to JA
8:30a - 8:52a Zach and JA-- texting back & forth
8:53a - 8:55a &#8211; Zach - phone call from JA-call went to voice mail--Zach called JA back &#8211;Zach&#8217;s phone near Yellow Springs & Adams house (Holly's pinged twice just after 9 near where Adams' phone pings - by Yellow Springs near Cox Rd)
8:55a &#8211; Jason phone - Autry, Adams & Holly's all shown in same area (same tower) - (at Shayne's where Jason sees Holly's body wrapped in back of Zach's truck)

~8:19a - 9:12a -- Zach's phone close to home-in same general area of where Holly's phone pings)
8:57a - 9:00a -- Holly's phone pings Yellow Springs area (2nd ping)
9:02a - 9:06a &#8211;Holly's phone - East of Shiloh Rd @ Cox & I40/641 (3rd tower pinged) Same tower as Zach's house
9:10a &#8211; Holly - Sugar Tree near Tennessee River (Shayne leaves to dump her phone)
9:10a - 10:43a -Zach - texts between ZA & Shayne Austin/Zach @ Birdsong area
9:12a &#8211; Zach's phone pings Yellow Springs area (Holly's 2nd ping in same area)
9:25a &#8211; Holly - pings near home - final ping - sim & phone found in this area.
9:40a - Holly's phone stops pinging/probably dead battery
9:42a - 10:37a &#8211; Jason phone -- pings near Tenn River near Birdsong Rd exit (Zach & Jason at Birdsong with Holly's body)
9:50a &#8211; Zach - pings near Tennessee River

10:01a - 10:32a - Zach continuallly texting Shayne
10:35a - Zach's phone uses the other side of tower near Birdsong Rd exit
10:35a - Jason's phone uses the other side of tower near Birdsong Rd exit
10:38a - Zach's phone moving away from tower & going back home
10:39a &#8211; Jason - phone is moving away from tower at Birdsong Rd exit (again pings near Cox Rd. (leaves Tenn river area)

11:04a -- CCTV at AmFarm shows TBI SUV traveling to Parsons
11:05a -- CCTV at AmFarm shows TBI SUV traveling to Parsons
11:07a -- CCT at AmFarm shows ZA's Pickup traveling to Parsons
11a - 12p &#8211; Zach - in Parsons (video store w/GF)

~2:30p - 3:30p - All (Zach, Jason & Shayne) at Dinsmore house (per house cleaner)

9:47p -- First 911 call by Dick Adams (ZA's GrF) - ZA is causing a problem
9:49p - Second 911 call by DA - Didn't want officers to come over
9:51p - Third 911 call by DA - ZA is back & causing problem; was raising hell, wanted guns & keys to his/Dylan's truck. More frantic call - sounds exasperated (JMO)






posting this - but have not added what the Defense's last cell expert said.

I am having problems with my laptop this morning - so there is no way I can listen and post here. So I'm going to try and just watch. Had to download Firefox, as my IE wouldn't let me into WS this morning.... :scared: LOL! I HAD to be here for this.

So - I'll read the posts later....
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I forgot to add in my post above, I only used the phone pings from the records in the powerpoint/testimony of both experts. As I said the locations didn't change between the two. The only difference was the narrowing of the "antenna" readings for each tower. Hth!
 
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MPR- Multiple Perpetrator Rape
page 26

O’Sullivan (1991) reports that in the USA, rates of MPR range from less than
2 per cent in student populations to up to 26 per cent in police samples. Franklin
(2004) estimates that even though the exact rate of MPR in the USA is unknown,
it is likely to be between 10 and 33 per cent. She cites various studies, some of
which found alarmingly high numbers of rapes involving multiple perpetrators
(Amir, 1971; Kanin, 1985). More recently, based on findings from the National
Violence Against Women report, Tjaden and Thoennes (2006) found that 13.5 per
cent of female rape victims were raped by two perpetrators and 8.3 per cent were
raped by three or more perpetrators.
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http://etheses.bham.ac.uk/5361/1/daSilva14PhD.pdf
 
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