ZG Hires Attorney - Lawsuit Against Casey Anthony Part 2

[bunnyphoenix1]

ITA with this reasoning. This lawsuit is completely frivolous. As much as I don't like KC, the Zenaida lawsuit is a waste of the court's time. As stated above all they have to do is produce the statement where KC said this ZG is NOT the one she was talking about, and it is case closed.

Defamation cases aren't that simple! The harm has already been done to this woman, and a simple, "sorry, I didn't mean you when I gave them your name and an address you were associated with" won't fix that.

I'm glad ZG has good lawyers looking after her interests. It's about time the As learn they are not above the law.

 

[per_curiam]

Thankfully, there IS a case where ZG is taking the A's to court, b/c now we have the depositions of Cindy and George which show their real colors. I never knew that Cindy was so...atrocious, crass, arrogant, etc. etc...., nor did I know that George was such a *#!%*. They have really shown their mess. Wow.

Go for it, ZG!

 

[zippitydoda]

Lets all be thankful that Casey did not name you or I.

When you falsely accuse someone of a crime, there are ramifications. While this latest video only continues the circus like atmosphere of this case, if the Anthony's have a problem with getting dragged into a deposition and answering questions, they need only look in one direction – straight at their lying, deceitful, alleged murder, daughter. Casey started it, ZFG and her attorney’s are ending it. But for Casey’s continuous lies, none of this would be occurring.

 

[magnolia]

It is frivolous and downright wrong. I think the laws that permit this kind of abuse of subpeona power for nothing but financial gain and publicity are wrong and need to be amended.

What I saw yesterday was nothing short of harassment and blatant attempts to discredit, shame and humiliate the Anthonys. The manner of questioning which provoked premature responses was deliberate and unnecessary, except for the lawyer's self ego. The constant re-asking of the same question was designed to agitate the witness and unfortunately, it worked. Bear in mind, that these people are not on trial for murder. These lawyers are not of the same calibre of the typical criminal attorney. (Let's not get into a Baez frenzy, I said typical) It is simply ludicrous for Morgan to be trying a criminal case in civil court by further distressing a couple who have already been stressed more than most of us can imagine.

I fully understand that many people think the Anthony's behavior has not been to their liking throughout this terrible affair. Their family lives have been micro-investigated and discussed ad nauseum by the news media and the public to the point where many feel as though they actually know them. There are people who suggest that supporting their daughter is akin to lack of grief for their granddaughter's horrific fate. Personally I cannot even begin to imagine how I would act in the same situation.

The legal profession was not well served by Morgan, Mitkin and Dill yesterday. What has been said previously is true as far as I can ascertain. This particular ZG has no Fernandez in her name. KC did state to police that she was not the ZFG who took Caylee. This ZG has several children, actually 2 to 4 more than she stated on her Sawgrass application...she was living in a motel and noone has verified her claim of job loss because of the murder case. .

I think repeating questions using different wording is typical in a deposition.

Perhaps the depositions would have been less stressful for the A's had they cooperated and answered the questions truthfully.

Both walked into the office with a defiant attitude. Most of the stress came as a result of the A's stubborn determination to protect their daughter.

~IMO~

 

[Suzie002]

At first I thought it was a lawsuit just to get money from this case. But as things progress, I realize that it's almost necessary to start the case because of how the A's are pinning the blame on everyone else. Had ZG not filed this suit, I ask myself would they say she is the murderer? I think ZG has no choice at this point just to save herself from being dragged under from the A's.

I also think that Jessie and Amy should file suit against the entire A family as well. I think they were so overdramatic yesterday and complained that the attorneys wanted a show and are doing it for attention. BUTT...Who used it to try to bolster reasonable doubt by throwing Jessie and Amy under the bus claiming that they could be "the Nanny?" I think the A's tried to use this to their advantage yesterday by playing the victims and trying to cast that reasonable doubt. When it backfired, all he!! broke lose. The should have just sat there and answered the questions and went home. CA's claim about someone looking like an AZZ on camera was right but it certainly wasn't ZG's attorneys!

 

[amethyst221]

Evasive, combative witnesses make it necessary to keep trying to get a definitive answer.

 

[Mendara]

It is very simple. Had ZG not filed this suit and charges the A's would have still been throwing her name around as a possible suspect, they would have alluded to her at trial, the thoeries would have been online, she would have continued to be suspected and connected to the case just by telling people her name.

The point of this suit is to prove there is NO NANNY especially by this name.

I am so disgusted and shocked by the A's depos. They could have answered these questions very simply and without being combative. It seems they made this all worse for themselves and their daughter. I can't imagine how they will be at the actual trial. They keep tightening that rope around her neck with each word.

I have never seen people lie and look EXACTLY like they are LYING. Horrible, disrespecful to the process, the law, life, justice.

BARF.

 

[Muzikman]

Casey's cell phone pings do not show her at Sawgrass on June 17th.

Not to get off topic, this is relevant I think - there are open periods with no cell activity when she could have easily gone to Sawgrass and gotten Z's info.

Before 10:52 AM, her first activity
12:40 PM - 2:12 PM - 1 1/2 hours
5:23 - 8:23 - 3 hours (most likely, as she was obviously out driving around - 5:23 was near Blanchard Park, 8:23 was near TonE's).

 

[MaedchenX]

Pity that Casey went and filed a counter suit, as we very well might not be sitting here today. That bonehead move alone implies ZFG's guilt of something, if not as felonious nanny.

Not to mention, and this is key, you can't have everything both ways. How could anyone hold to the physical description of ZFG when Casey has been exposed as a pathalogical liar, and at the same time maintain that the ZFG who was the nanny could be someone else (another age/race/gender respectively)? How can you rely on the police line up which Casey took part in when she denies the very event ever took place? The point is, Casey is a liar. We can't trust anything she says, better have ZFG's name cleared in a court of law before her story changes again.


If someone had used my name in this capacity, a name which I am certain there are few if not one of (French-German hyphenation is a dream), I would pursue every legal avenue to clear my name.

 

[suspicious1]

It is frivolous and downright wrong. I think the laws that permit this kind of abuse of subpeona power for nothing but financial gain and publicity are wrong and need to be amended.

What I saw yesterday was nothing short of harassment and blatant attempts to discredit, shame and humiliate the Anthonys. The manner of questioning which provoked premature responses was deliberate and unnecessary, except for the lawyer's self ego. The constant re-asking of the same question was designed to agitate the witness and unfortunately, it worked. Bear in mind, that these people are not on trial for murder. These lawyers are not of the same calibre of the typical criminal attorney. (Let's not get into a Baez frenzy, I said typical) It is simply ludicrous for Morgan to be trying a criminal case in civil court by further distressing a couple who have already been stressed more than most of us can imagine.

I fully understand that many people think the Anthony's behavior has not been to their liking throughout this terrible affair. Their family lives have been micro-investigated and discussed ad nauseum by the news media and the public to the point where many feel as though they actually know them. There are people who suggest that supporting their daughter is akin to lack of grief for their granddaughter's horrific fate. Personally I cannot even begin to imagine how I would act in the same situation.

The legal profession was not well served by Morgan, Mitkin and Dill yesterday. What has been said previously is true as far as I can ascertain. This particular ZG has no Fernandez in her name. KC did state to police that she was not the ZFG who took Caylee. This ZG has several children, actually 2 to 4 more than she stated on her Sawgrass application...she was living in a motel and noone has verified her claim of job loss because of the murder case.

:clap::clap::clap:

 

[magnolia]

Defamation cases aren't that simple! The harm has already been done to this woman, and a simple, "sorry, I didn't mean you when I gave them your name and an address you were associated with" won't fix that.

I'm glad ZG has good lawyers looking after her interests. It's about time the As learn they are not above the law.

~Right~ One can't un-ring a bell.

If any one of us refused to answer questions asked in a depo., the deposing Attorney would ask the Court to intervene. The Court would demand that we answer the questions.

That said, I hope Morgan follows through with filing a motion to have the A's return.

 

[jon_burrows]

Wonder why KC invoked the 5th on questions A-B-C-D of the interrogatories?

Specifically D-She is not the Zenanda Gondalez you told police about?

Obviously, KC's Attorney advised her to plead the 5th on these questions. I wonder why?

As an Attorney, Morgan can foresee problems that may result from this that we can't foresee.

Magnolia---excellent post! Casey invoking the 5th on that specific question leaves ZFG open to possible charges down the road. John Morgan said in the past all Casey has to do is sign that document stating this ZFG is not the kidnapper. Casey won't. The As could come back later and sue her in a civil court for the the loss of Caylee or worse, try and pin the murder on her. They wouldn't get any money but they would be in the spotlight again---more demand for pics of Caylee---more money for them. They've proven they have no problems profiting from her death.

FWIW, I believe Casey got her name somehow from Sawgrass and she is the person Casey tried to pin this on. Thank goodness ZFG had an alibi and could easily be removed from suspicion. Had she not, I'm afraid she would be the one sitting in jail awaiting trial. The As wouldn't bat an eye at someone else taking the fall for Casey's actions.

Funny how the description of ZFG is pretty much the description of Casey (aside from the height):

-Straight dark hair
-10 (In Casey's eyes she is a 10) I couldn't believe her text messages where she refers to herself as a hot chick.
-Pretty, white straight teeth. I can't stand Casey but she does have pretty teeth.
-Weight---proportionally the description of ZFG would look like Casey. As a general guideline for women they should weigh 100 lbs if they're 5 feet tall then add 5 lbs for every inch. So ZFG at 5'7" and weighing 125-130 would be on the thin side.

 

[Mendara]

They could have answered each question is a simple non-combative way. Instead they chose to appear guilty, appear like liars, defensive and ridiculous.

Did you Cindy believe Caylee was missing on July 3.

Cindy could have said: No

He shows her the diary entry:

Cindy could have said: She was missing from my day to day life at home, but I knew she was with her mother, so missing as in from my home not in general.

END

Instead she went nutso.

 

[ZubenElSchemali]

Her official name does contain Fernandez. If they cannot handle simple reasoning questions from a nice polite lawyer in a somewhat small room deposition how are they going to behave on the stand at the criminal trial under real hardline questions. I await seeing the judge smack them both in the back of the head to knock some sense in them.

And furthermore wanna bet a big famous civil case that was won involving deaths of two people utilized similar tactics regarding the criminal case it had evolved from? Same thing here. ZFG may not be related to the deceased but she has been implicated in the dissapearance of the desceased so hello world to questions about the desceased, her family and how it all came to be.

Friptzap, can you please enlighten us as to where this documentation can be found?

Good point Ibyoungr. But isn't it true the June 16th pings are within range of Sawgrass and the June 17th pings put her near the park?

I agree with the concern over the Anthonys' health. Cindy has lost too much weight and they both have been pushed beyond reason by attorneys, the media protesters and internet posters. People act as if they have every professional degree under the Sun, every available fact and the right to judge what goes on inside their head and even bedroom. It makes me so sad.

 

[ibyoungr]

bolded and my comments in blue

Not to get off topic, this is relevant I think - there are open periods with no cell activity when she could have easily gone to Sawgrass and gotten Z's info.

Before 10:52 AM, her first activity Tony's audio interview towards the end places her at his home, he stated he skipped school and they were in bed.. basically having sex. Sorry but I can believe Casey would rather be in bed than sitting at an apt complex hoping someone would arrive to look at an apt who's name matched the name Zanny.
12:40 PM - 2:12 PM - 1 1/2 hours What time was the ZG at Sawgrass. 1 1/2 hours is not a very big time window. I believe she ate lunch with Tony as well.
5:23 - 8:23 - 3 hours (most likely, as she was obviously out driving around - 5:23 was near Blanchard Park, 8:23 was near TonE's).Last in the area of Tony R and JG and JB park... would she shut off her cell phone and have sex with Tony for a couple of hours?? or was she scoping a place to put Caylee at the park?

I just see Casey hearing that name in other locations not at Sawgrass. window of time very short...

I am off to analyze Tony R's interview.. but I do not believe much out of his mouth. He was trying pretty hard to have sex with her in May.

Choices are for the 3 hour time period:

Casey sitting at Sawgrass for a couple of hours waiting for someone with a name that sounds like Zanny to "just happen" to appear.

or

Casey having sex with 2 Tony's in 1 day, keeping one on the hook just in case

or

Casey after bagging Caylee and putting her back into or into the trunk she goes to a park shuts off her phone and tries to find a location to dump a baby.


Tony L's transcript Sept 8, Page 36 starts on line & with YM, Line 13 page 36... page 37 Line 11, Line 13, Line 16

 

[Mendara]

Magnolia---excellent post! Casey invoking the 5th on that specific question leaves ZFG open to possible charges down the road. John Morgan said in the past all Casey has to do is sign that document stating this ZFG is not the kidnapper. Casey won't. The As could come back later and sue her in a civil court for the the loss of Caylee or worse, try and pin the murder on her. They wouldn't get any money but they would be in the spotlight again---more demand for pics of Caylee---more money for them. They've proven they have no problems profiting from her death.

FWIW, I believe Casey got her name somehow from Sawgrass and she is the person Casey tried to pin this on. Thank goodness ZFG had an alibi and could easily be removed from suspicion. Had she not, I'm afraid she would be the one sitting in jail awaiting trial. The As wouldn't bat an eye at someone else taking the fall for Casey's actions.

Funny how the description of ZFG is pretty much the description of Casey (aside from the height):

-Straight dark hair
-10 (In Casey's eye's she is a 10) I couldn't believe her text messages where she refers to herself as a hot chick.
-Pretty, white straight teeth. I can't stand Casey but she does have pretty teeth.
-Weight---proportionally the description of ZFG would look like Casey. As a general guideline for women they should weigh 100 lbs if they're 5 feet tall then add 5 lbs for every inch. So ZFG at 5'7" and weighing 125-130 would be on the thin side.

I agree with this.

However I remember her stating that ZFG was half black and half puerto rican - I believe she saw this ZFG myspace at some point, because this ZFG has similar parents. I don't think KC could decide what the fake nanny looked like.

 

[Apex-mom]

Of course THIS ZG is not the same ZFG that Casey meant... that's because ZFG DOESN"T EXIST! But I do believe Casey DID use PART OF THIS ZG's LIFE in her fabrication, so IMO the lawsuit is valid. I am glad to see ZG's attorneys with their hard line of questioning, I hope it continues and I hope the judge forces them to answer, OR GA and CA can both get contempt of court charges and sit in jail next to their evil offspring.

You know the saying: "you start a fight with me and I'll finish it" and that's just what ZG is doing. Good for her. :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

 

[ibyoungr]

Friptzap, can you please enlighten us as to where this documentation can be found?

Good point Ibyoungr. But isn't it true the June 16th pings are within range of Sawgrass and the June 17th pings put her near the park?

I agree with the concern over the Anthonys' health. Cindy has lost too much weight and they both have been pushed beyond reason by attorneys, the media protesters and internet posters. People act as if they have every professional degree under the Sun, every available fact and the right to judge what goes on inside their head and even bedroom. It makes me so sad.

You have a neighbor that sees her at the house on either the 17th, 18th or 19th.

See my response to Muzikman

I am sure she was more worried about either keeping some dude on the line or finding out what to do with Caylee's body.
Sitting at Sawgrass hoping someone with the name that sounds like Zanny to arrive is not how I see Casey spending her time.

Going to Sawgrass would have been a forethought.
She would have had to think about going there in advance... for what purpose? She was already familar with the apartment complex. Her friends DS and AD lived there for 1.5 years and moved out in Mar of 08. What was she going to see there that day that she had not seen there before? Why would she waste her time sitting at an apt complex? Hoping she would overhear a name that matches the sound of Zanny? She could of easily overheard the name at the mall while shopping at JCPenny's...or knew of her neighbor named Zenaida.

IMO, she had far more important things to be doing.. like bagging a body at her parents home, talking and having uninteruppted sex with Tony R (shut phone off so she would not be distracted) or even sitting over at JBPark because she was scoping out an area to dump a baby.

 

[affinity]

I do find it "telling" that this very downtrodden woman (ZG) has such a high profile lawyer. It is just sad that in this country cases like this one are money making for so many people.

I guess this is why the Anthony's are so flipping out furious at Morgan..because they feel that he is simply trying to get a piece of the pie. There is a TON of identity theft occurring constantly especially in FL..some of it probably even associated with murder too..yet THIS is the case that those lawyers are willing to spend so much time on. I don't think it is a frivolous case..but you can bet if all the reporters and tv cameras were magically done away with these righteous lawyers would disappear too! The celebrity crap is just wrong. I think in Canada or someplace they have a rule that crimes can't be reported upon until after the trial!

 

[TinaD]

I don't see how anyone can argue that the suit is frivolous because KC told LE that it wasn't this ZFG. Has she or any Anthony gone on any tv show and asked people not to harass this poor lady becuase she's not involved? Have any of them said anything to assist her on myspace?? Or any other public utterance? Not that I've seen.

She has been harassed and threatened (I understand) because of KC's statements, and KC hasn't tried to undo the damage. ZG has to protect hereself.
MOO