04/22/2013 - waiting for rebuttal to continue

[DebinGA]

She says that after the shot, he still continued to come after her and threatened her life. That would cancel the cooling off period, thereby justifying the inclusion of a manslaughter charge.

The murderer has studied the law quite well it seems. She covered her bases. *******. :furious:

Dr. Horn said what she describes was impossible. She should have spent more time with Gray's Anatomy.

 

[Mellinyce]

Thanks Mel, I don't share those experiences -ever, and it happened 20 years ago. But, emotions are a crazy thing. We form memories based on emotions, and mortal fear is the most emotional experience I've ever had. Although I'm far removed, and he's no longer a danger to me and has moved on - its been over for a long time and I CERTAINLY have not dwelled on it.

However, I want to explain this so you can make a distinction.

When she are shoved to the ground while holding your 13 month old son, and your husband punches your face so repeatedly that your brow bone is fractured and cuts your eye from the inside, out - THAT is domestic violence. When you see blood all over your baby and furiously start looking for injuries to him, only to realize 'its only your blood spatter' and you are relieved, THAT'S domestic violence. When your husband follows you to your parents house (where your siblings also live and the phone line has been cut) out in the deep country - and he then yells out that he's in the woods, and he's brought the rifle - then says come out, or I'll kill your family - THAT'S domestic violence. When you finally make it to a secret women's haven (shelter) and he finds you and you have to move 2 more times - THAT'S domestic violence.

And no, he didn't say PLEASE. But I argue that the fact that he didn't say please was NOT the definition of violence.

ALV did a disservice to both victims AND the perception of domestic violence. It's now about as worthless as the G in Lasagna - as so famously put.

Hun, you have brought me to tears. I am SOOOO profoundly happy that you are where you are now in your life...I want to reach through this screen and literally hug you! Thank you, thank you for sharing this with us. Really, YOU ARE INDEED A SURVIVOR!!! I know I don't know you but you don't have to meet someone to know them and feel their pain and rejoice in their well being. Thank you!:heartbeat::heartbeat::heartbeat::tyou:

 

[MeeBee]

It looks like the Walmart employee will testify to JA's lie about going to Mesa with two gas cans. If that's the case, I don't see why the jury will believe anything she said on the stand under oath, including her alleged attack by TA after dropping a camera worth a few hundred dollars.

I'm stillwaiting for Juan to prove JA's crooked bony finger was like that WAY before 2008. Prove that's a lie and all the other DV is proven to be bull chit too! Mark my words.[/QUOTE]

Why would Juan do that when he is contending she injured it while killing Travis (which is the truth!)?

 

[Wazzu]

I learned today that the defense is trying to add a surrebuttal.

I believe she DID snap! She snapped after TA called her out in that email for what she is. Then she set about to premeditate his murder and followed through with it.

The defense has probably been encouraged by the occasional juror question that has mentioned "snapping" so they are going for it and hoping for the best. It won't work! :jail:

 

[ElleElle]

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It doesn't sit with me well how someone can paint a picture of someone they have not met. :banghead: She never met Travis and then tries to meet Travis' sister during her testimony for the DT? That's a no-no, and that's why she was never welcomed back. imo

Every profession has a share of their bad seeds. I really believe Alyce is a bad seed. To set in her ways to see the truth at times. Have seen so many bad men that she can not even force herself to see any man as a victim.

 

[kaydono]

Can I please add this : She also made a mockery of domestic violence, and the victims. I personally went through it with my sons father - I feared my life on several occasions, had 16 stitches in order to shut the gaping injury to my left eye, filed police reports and lived in women's shelters to get away from him because my life was truly in danger, he literally went hunting for me. I didn't drive to HIM.

After going through all that, I was a domestic violence victim. I earned that badge. ALV passed it out to Arias like it's nothing.

Anyone now watching this trial can easily surmise that domestic violence claims can be based on nothing, now. She devalued my experience and MY trauma. For that psychopath.

JMOO

I admire your willingness to self disclose. Even now, I cannot fully tell my story of abuse. It's still raw and, if this makes any sense, embarrassing.

 

[Nhic]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[katiedid2]

Absolutely, I remember Dr. Geffner being a very good person. That's why I'm disturbed that he would have anything to do with this DT and JA's case on their behalf.

I agree it would not be a good thing for the DT to take advantage of a good man. This DT, how do I say it.... they are truly too desperate to win. They really do need to get a grip. They need to realize that this or any case, is not just about winning. They need to realize and remember that there is more than winning. That what is right is what really matters; that's worth more than just "winning". This whole "winning" thing I think has become a pariah.

Your so right! The DT is very desperate to win at all cost. I've always believed that it was about winning! Out witting juan. It has nothing to do with integrity,truth, and certainly not justice
after all Isn't this is wilmott and nurmis first time on live tv in a courtroom.:seeya:

 

[kaRN]

I agree with your statement, concerning the children 100%, I was referring to Jodi's BS story about retaliating in response to being beaten down and her life being threatened. My gut instinct was always to RUN. My abuse took place prior to having my children, thank Goodness.

I knew what you were saying. I was just trying to imagine a scenario where running wouldn't be a persons first instinct and leaving dependents behind was all I could think of.
I'm glad that's all in the past for you!!!

 

[Lorelilly]

Hated it! lol

Barrettes no, but she may walk in tomorrow with her head shaved...she will have morph'd into KN since last we saw Her Evilness

 

[kaydono]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

HA HA HA Hilarious!

 

[Sleuth5]

I admire your willingness to self disclose. Even now, I cannot fully tell my story of abuse. It's still raw and, if this makes any sense, embarrassing.

Makes perfect sense to me. I have always been embarrassed to admit I was abused. I think lots of people are.

 

[kaydono]

HA HA HA Hilarious!

You forgot "Must love ANAL"

 

[Chelly]

I admire your willingness to self disclose. Even now, I cannot fully tell my story of abuse. It's still raw and, if this makes any sense, embarrassing.

Hi Kaydono, It makes sense. I've been told, "You are only as sick as your secrets". Yet, I know I'll never tell everything.

 

[Ladylub]

Read the article about the DT requesting another witness to impeach or discredit Dr D. Did the DT have time to interview her? If so would it have been before or after Samuels and Alyce took the stand? Would that interview have included her saying JA have BPD? Im guessing they did not since they are scrambling to discredit her now instead of doing it before while their witnesses were on stand.

 

[Nezumi]

I don't like Yreka.

I like Horace Finklestein. I really, really like him!

 

[PrincessSezMe]

Gonna be 75 here tomorrow.

We're still at -12C tonight.....I'm soooooo jealous.

Anything on the plus side of the thermometer is welcome here!!!

 

[ElleElle]

The sad thing is hundreds of men and women would respond to this. :facepalm:

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[Sleuth5]

We're still at -12C tonight.....I'm soooooo jealous.

Anything on the plus side of the thermometer is welcome here!!!

Maybe some of it will head your way soon.

 

[ElleElle]

It's 9pm, 55 F/ 13 C here at the moment.

We're still at -12C tonight.....I'm soooooo jealous.

Anything on the plus side of the thermometer is welcome here!!!