17-yo Teen Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #6

[Dr.Fessel]

Anyone else find it interesting a kid was not suspended for bringing a large flat head screwdriver to school?

 

[LolaMoon08]

I'm going to say it again and this is 100% my opinion, that it has become very clear to me why Casey Anthony was aquitted of Caylee's murder. I never understood it until I got involved in this case. Like Trayvon, Caylee was blamed for her own death by her killer. I'm all for everyone having different opinions, but when does common sense set in? LDB's words never rang so true to me until today?

We have an unarmed teenager who is being followed by a man with a gun. I don't care if Trayvon was silver... Trayvon was an unarmed teenager being followed by a man with a gun.

Zimmerman's 911 history clearly shows a man hell bent on seeking out people who he deemed suspicious. It didn't even have to be a person, it was cars, animals, and even a bag of trash. He is clearly not a stable person. And I'm not even including his prior history with LE and a previous girlfriend. These transcripts alone tell me everything I need to know about Zimmerman and what he was doing for many, many years. He was, imo, holding neighborhoods hostage with his aggressive pursuit of what he himself wanted out of it. Recognition and Acceptance from the very people he wished he could be... Police! A twisted and confused man he is, imo.

I only wished Trayvon would have slammed his head so hard against that cement sidewalk and knock Zimmerman unconscious because at least he would have had a chance. Of course, then he himself would have been arrested for assault!! :banghead: But at least he would be alive!!

Whether or not Zimmerman is held accountable for this... As a Florida citizen... As an American citizen... I will fight my hardest to make sure this law is seriously modified!

 

[Sensei]

I think that Trayvon's mother said it best tonight.

If the 17yr old in question had been the City Managers child, or the Mayor's child, or the child of a Police Department Officer, what kind of investigation would they want done? Would they be content to simply accept the account of the man who shot their child and say Oh okay, so sorry and move along?

Would Zimmerman have been arrested in those circumstances, would he have been drug tested, would they have collected his clothes, and talked to the girlfriend, and then answered the parents questions with a thorough and comprehensive investigation that let them know exactly how and why their child died?

I think they just want the same treatment for their child that this same incident would have gotten if it had been any average middle class white child, and I do not blame them. I don't care what the rules are, but the rules HAVE to be the same for everyone without exception.

 

[rbrnmw2]

Anyone else find it interesting a kid was not suspended for bringing a large flat head screwdriver to school?

These suspension stories are like Pinocchio nose's they keep getting bigger by the minute MOO

 

[Sensei]

It wasn't the names that were trademarked. It was two slogans with his name in them. It seems to me that his name would be protected via defamation/slander/libel laws, would it not?

Not necessarily, WHO would have thought that University of So Cal would try and trademark USC, which the University of So Carolina found to be offensive, since they had to change the logo on a lot of their sports gear.

The fact is if she does not trademark these things they could be used in any way a person wants, and she could do nothing, this way at least she can make sure it is not used in a way that she would hate.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

Anyone else find it interesting a kid was not suspended for bringing a large flat head screwdriver to school?

Well he had a bunch of jewelry that wasn't his as well. In that context 2+2=4. They should have called local police imo.

 

[lillygator]

There is NO article or information at that link.....

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html

sorry, this should be ok

 

[Donjeta]

So, how many times can a kid be suspended until it becomes OK to shoot him?

 

[mikeysmommom]

These suspension stories are like Pinocchio nose's they keep getting bigger by the minute MOO

Photos were sent to police how is that Pinocchio nose?
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html

School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation.

“Martin was suspended, warned and dismissed for the graffiti,” according to the report prepared by Miami-Dade Schools Police.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/26/2714778/thousands-expected-at-trayvon.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I think that Trayvon's mother said it best tonight.

If the 17yr old in question had been the City Managers child, or the Mayor's child, or the child of a Police Department Officer, what kind of investigation would they want done? Would they be content to simply accept the account of the man who shot their child and say Oh okay, so sorry and move along?

Would Zimmerman have been arrested in those circumstances, would he have been drug tested, would they have collected his clothes, and talked to the girlfriend, and then answered the parents questions with a thorough and comprehensive investigation that let them know exactly how and why their child died?

I think they just want the same treatment for their child that this same incident would have gotten if it had been any average middle class white child, and I do not blame them. I don't care what the rules are, but the rules HAVE to be the same for everyone without exception.

I wonder how on Earth she would know what would happen in other situations? They want revenge before they even know all the facts, it seems.

 

[flourish]

Martin's girlfriend had said in a recording obtained exclusively by ABC News that she heard Martin ask Zimmerman "why are your following me, and then the man asked, what are you doing around here." She then heard a scuffle break out and the line went dead.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-shooter-teenager-gun/story?id=16000239

The story from GZ certainly doesn't match with TM's gf's. I'm taking GZ's words with a big old cellar of salt, though. IMO.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Well he had a bunch of jewelry that wasn't his as well. In that context 2+2=4. They should have called local police imo.

The article said they did call the police.

 

[m00c0w]

Well he had a bunch of jewelry that wasn't his as well. In that context 2+2=4. They should have called local police imo.

From that same article:

School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation.

 

[LambChop]

Okay, let's not start taking things out of context. The information that has gotten out about Trayvon was NOT a part of any public record. The city manager specifically said that a person in the police department released this information without approval. None of the info pertained to Zimmerman, so no, there has been no leak in that regard.

Don't try to twist this, Zimmerman's troubles were a part of the public record. His charges were not expunged too well, if they were so easily accessible on google. I think you know exactly what I mean by the leak---911 calls were not leaked they were released with AUTHORIZATION. That's the big difference.

I'm thinking the reason we can still see his (to be expunged) record is because he has domestic violence charges against him and a restraining order (I believe). They only expunge after a set number of years if you have had no future charges against you. This, I believe, is why that record still shows up. jmo

 

[m00c0w]

I'm thinking the reason we can still see his (expunged) record is because he has domestic violence charges against him and a restraining order (I believe). They only expunge after a set number of years if you have had no future charges against you. This, I believe, is why that record still shows up. jmo

That is not true. You have to be without charges for a certain amount of time since the initial charge you want expunged, to be eligible for it to get expunged. What you do after you have it expunged is entirely irrelevant to it remaining that way.

 

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[LambChop]

I wonder how on Earth she would know what would happen in other situations? They want revenge before they even know all the facts, it seems.

LE gave them the facts as told to them by GZ. jmo

 

[LambChop]

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I think we are just burning our little selves out here.... lol

 

[LambChop]

That is not true. You have to be without charges for a certain amount of time since the initial charge you want expunged, to be eligible for it to get expunged. What you do after you have it expunged is entirely irrelevant to it remaining that way.

Right. And we can still see the record because he did, in fact, get into trouble. Okay, I fixed it. Thanks jmo

 

[m00c0w]

Right. And we can still see the record because he did, in fact, get into trouble. jmo

The sources have said it was expunged. You don't even start the expungement process until after a certain amount of time where you have to stay out of trouble. Because sources say it was expunged, this is what it seems happened. Now, apparently with an expunged record, it shows up in LEO databases, but only what he was charged with and that it's expunged. The actual files are not available without a court order saying to unseal them.