17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #21

[Steft50]

This entire deal with yesterday's press conference is mentally insulting.

Haven't talked to your poor, downtrodden, unjustly accused client in a day and a half........so you drop him?

There's something else at play here. You can count on it.

I had a thought this morning that I just can't shake. Defense attorneys need to be ab le to have some control over they're clients behavior and these attorneys have done a lot in the name of GZ for literally nothing and in return he does what he seems to do well....whatever he wants to do. Could this be a public spanking from his attorneys for not listening to them or following they're instruction?

 

[suzihawk]

If there are riots IMO MR.Crump and the revs are the ones who riled the mobs,and the news for slanting this case as a youngster choir boy with his ice tea an skittles skipping home was gun downed by a fat crazed gunman.IMO These lawyers are sick and tired of the circus and are speaking out because they know GZ is covered under the law.It is incredible that nothing has been done to anyone who is calling for the capture of a man alive or dead and no one was arrested for putting out a hit.If a White man or group did that he would be jailed IMO.The race card has no place in this case IMO.

Perhaps this line of discusiion would be better suited for the thread set up for the purpose of discussing protests, civil rights leaders, political, religious and racial issues surrounding the Trayvon Martin case.

JMO

 

[Adrienne37]

Trayvon Martin's coach breaks silence

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/11/trayvon-martins-coach-breaks-silence/?hpt=ng_mid

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I can assure you that a 9mm does not have anywhere near that amount of recoil. Only in the movies.

I think that ejector slide might have come back and whacked him in the side of the nose.

 

[Gin]

JMO/IMO
I keep thinking of Trayvon's screams and wails.. His last few moments on this earth were pure terror, thanks to the condo's armed patrol volunteer.

Just 40 minutes after snuffing out a life, GZ looks clean, comfortable, cool as a cucumber as he easily walks through the police station. You'd think he was being taken in for forgetting to pay a stack of parking tickets.

GZ must have been 100% convinced that as long as he carefully invoked the magic words Stand Your Ground, there would be no consequences. IMO, he made sure to come up with a quick story that fit his need to be able to easily justify a kill. He wanted to make certain he got a SYG get out of jail free card.

And you know what, his little plan almost worked.

Now we have a clearer picture of what kind of guy GZ is....demanding, entitled, manipulative,rogue...take your pick.

 

[frenchvixen]

I hardly ever watch NG, but I saw that part last night. Ole Frank was all proud of himself, waving his report around sayin he believed in jurisprudence. :floorlaugh:

Got Mz Nancee so hot she started flopping her own around in the camera's face sayin "Well whoop de do Taaffee, I got one of those too!" :floorlaugh:

Ole Frank can't win for loosing. Wore a new tie for her last time, learned a big new word this time. She just ain't cuttin Frank a drop of slack. :floorlaugh:

My favorite part of the show was when he matter-of-factory said"I missed you Nancy" and she half rolled her eyes. Priceless.

 

[annalia]

They did not say this yesterday though. They said they were off the case because they cannot contact him, he is not responding to them for 2 days and they can't represent him if they cannot talk to him.

BBM

Yes they did. They were the ones that said in the presser that GZ had contacted the SA on his own as well as the part about just being legal advisors.

JMHO

 

[Isabelle]

Not sure a broken nose would show up on an x-ray, unless the part of the skull that is attached to the cartilage forming the bridge of the nose is also broken. In reality a broken nose isn't really 'broken', but is a case where the cartilage is torn/ separated. A look at the front of a skull would tell more in terms of how the cartilage is attached to the skull.

 

[Adrienne37]

I worry about this 72 hours thing. That is a long time. He could be long gone at that point, or take his life by that point. The SA is taking a huge gamble by waiting 72 more hours. Or maybe she knows something we don't know and it will all be okay, I don't know. I just hope he didn't promise to turn himself in and then doesn't turn around and kill himself instead.

Thinking about it, why would they trust anything he says to them anyway? As a show of good faith? This whole thing doesn't make any sense.

And I seriously think these two lawyers took a page from Cheney Mason's book. What is it with lawyers near retirement age acting like this? You'd think they'd want to go out with a good reputation, not destroy their reputation. Or maybe it's just lawyers near retirement in Florida.

For what it's worth Aedrys, we have no way of knowing that he didn't leave the country on 02/27/2012.



~jmo~

 

[HiHater]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Co...tion/-/1637132/10452410/-/gx69ei/-/index.html

In a memo from her office, Corey said she will release new information regarding the investigation into Martin's death, but no specifics were provided.

BBM
what could it be?

Pure speculation: Trayvon was either shot in the back or from a further distance than we have been led to believe.

JMO IMO MOO

 

[mikeysmommom]

I guess we will have to disagree, since IMO they not only portrayed GZ as a whack job, they didn't do themselves any favors either. They came off sounding about as nutty as they made him sound....and all this and yet they never spoke to him face to face, nope sorry the whole clutch and cluster of them sound like they are a few fries short of a happy meal. IMO JMHO and stuff.

IMO They were speaking out in defense of GZ and it seems anyone who does that people take issue with.This is a victims forum and until I see evidence from a real source(AD)GZ is as much a victim as TM is.The media and others have been playing on the emotional aspects of this case IMO Emotion have nothing to do with the law.

 

[Aedrys]

I had a thought this morning that I just can't shake. Defense attorneys need to be ab le to have some control over they're clients behavior and these attorneys have done a lot in the name of GZ for literally nothing and in return he does what he seems to do well....whatever he wants to do. Could this be a public spanking from his attorneys for not listening to them or following they're instruction?

I've wondered about that myself. No lawyer is going to go down for a bad client. I think that press conference yesterday was their way of flipping him off, just not actually doing that. They CYA'd by saying he could contact them, but like he would really contact them now? They seem like sore losers to me, and apparently are childish enough to make fools of themselves just to send GZ a message, if that is what they were doing. Maybe they wanted to show him what he passed up and how it's his loss now. Who knows.

 

[mikeysmommom]

Pure speculation: Trayvon was either shot in the back or from a further distance than we have been led to believe.

JMO IMO MOO

If that were the case he would have been arrested by now.JMO,IMO and all that jazz.

 

[HiHater]

I worry about this 72 hours thing. That is a long time. He could be long gone at that point, or take his life by that point. The SA is taking a huge gamble by waiting 72 more hours. Or maybe she knows something we don't know and it will all be okay, I don't know. I just hope he didn't promise to turn himself in and then doesn't turn around and kill himself instead.

Thinking about it, why would they trust anything he says to them anyway? As a show of good faith? This whole thing doesn't make any sense.

And I seriously think these two lawyers took a page from Cheney Mason's book. What is it with lawyers near retirement age acting like this? You'd think they'd want to go out with a good reputation, not destroy their reputation. Or maybe it's just lawyers near retirement in Florida.

Maybe the 72 hours is to allow him time to get back to Florida? JMO

 

[rotterdam]

I will agree with Gregaros that the lawyers talking about GZ's mental state is very poor form. For two people that are seemingly supposed to defend him, they did more harm to his case yesterday than anything. Like Toobin on CNN said, why would they even need to call a presser, they could of just called the SP discretely and said they are off the case.

It begs the question, how much were they ever 'his' lawyers? Did GZ actually retain them? When they were going on these talk shows, were they speaking what he wanted them to say or were they just going off what they read in the media, similar to if one of us got up there, said we were his lawyer and started talking?

Something is not right, and this goes for the website too. I'm beginning to trust less and less what these two lawyers say, to the point where I'm starting to question how connected they ever were to GZ. Is the website truly GZ? We've only heard from them that it is.

I just wonder if those two lawyers worked more with RZ Sr than with GZ.
And GZ had a fall out with daddy.

 

[Sensei]

I'd guarantee that Zimmerman hasn't stepped into a doctor's office any time between 02/26/2012 and today. If there were medical documentation supporting his injuries, you can bet your bottom dollar that these two "lawyers" would have already put it out there in the media. That's all it would take to quieten the crowds.


~jmo~

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is exactly what I'm sayin, but you said it better.

The vast majority of people would just Shut up, if it became apparent that there was proof of GZ's claims....IMO JMHO and stuff.

 

[Aedrys]

For what it's worth Aedrys, we have no way of knowing that he didn't leave the country on 02/27/2012.



~jmo~

True, but then why give him 72 more hours if he's already out of the country? How could the SA trust he would come back in that time period? She can't trust him at all. I'm just really baffled at what is going on here. You don't give a mentally unstable person who might have already fled the country 72 more hours before you make an announcement. I really wish I could be a fly on the wall behind the scenes!

 

[frenchvixen]

I worry about this 72 hours thing. That is a long time. He could be long gone at that point, or take his life by that point. The SA is taking a huge gamble by waiting 72 more hours. Or maybe she knows something we don't know and it will all be okay, I don't know. I just hope he didn't promise to turn himself in and then doesn't turn around and kill himself instead.

Thinking about it, why would they trust anything he says to them anyway? As a show of good faith? This whole thing doesn't make any sense.

And I seriously think these two lawyers took a page from Cheney Mason's book. What is it with lawyers near retirement age acting like this? You'd think they'd want to go out with a good reputation, not destroy their reputation. Or maybe it's just lawyers near retirement in Florida.

Yuck, it was so gross to watch the older attorney mocking the congresswoman and his voice was screeching. Didn't Howard Deen lose his bid for president a few years ago for doing that same type of screechy noise with his voice? It's so ugly. I think piers used a word last night to describe these attorneys but I can't remember it. It was just ugly and tacky.

 

[JeannaT]

The attorneys have probably been in touch with GZ's family. imo

I believe they did say they spoke to Ron 10 minutes before the Press conference.

 

[rotterdam]

I really love the footage from this video of these so called attorneys strutting all Hollywood like as if they're walking the red carpet or something. :floorlaugh: Such arrogance.

They kind of remind me of "Men in black" with that strut. And they acted like they lost their favorite extraterrestrial.